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New albums of IR's children:-)

Topic started by app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on Tue Aug 31 10:32:56 EDT 2004.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

The main purpose of this thread is to discuss the albums of KR, YSR and Bhavadharini ('avaiyathu mundhi iruppachcheyal' and `ivan thandhai ennOtRan kol')...

It'll also help keeping the IR's new albums thread exclusive to his works...

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• From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Aug 31 10:35:32 EDT 2004
  
  albums like 'phir milEngE' can probably be discussed here...Bhavadharini is supposed to have done a decent job...
  
  IR is definitely fortunate to have obedient and resourceful children...we don't see all children excel in their father's field very often, especially at such high competitive levels...
  
  It's unfortunate that most children of popular artistes get spoilt:-((sulakshana's erstwhile husband is one example)
  
  
• From: Teja (@ 63.201.144.200) on: Tue Aug 31 12:55:37 EDT 2004
  
  who is sulakshana's erstwhile husband ?
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Aug 31 12:59:08 EDT 2004
  
  Unfortunately, the s/o mellisai mannar:-(
  
  
• From: 20000910 (@ 136.1.1.154) on: Tue Aug 31 14:11:35 EDT 2004
  
  Why do we still believe in the "Kuzha Thozhil" concept? - Which is the basic reason for our nasty caste system.
  
  Somehow it's popular in Indian Politics and cinema.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ 217.44.93.62) on: Tue Aug 31 15:09:49 EDT 2004
  
  Phir milenge is terrible. I heard the songs today. BD is a shame to IR family.
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Aug 31 15:27:20 EDT 2004
  
  20000910, unfortunately caste system is not based on kuzha thozhil system, it is the other way around...
  
  Whichever field it is, if someone is sincerely training (or getting trained, or getting educated etc) his children to excel has to be appreciated..
  'thandhai makaRkAtRum udhavi avaiyathu
  mudhi iruppach cheyal' says kuRaL
  
  Similarly, children should make use of the opportunity to perform well and make parents proud..
  'makan thandhaikkAtRum udhavi ivan thandhai
  ennOtRan kol enum sol' is another kuRaL..
  
  I don't think we should confuse caste system with this. A physician's son taking up medicine is not necessarily a bad thing. One should not connect this with religion at all.
  
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Aug 31 15:31:37 EDT 2004
  
  While it can put lot of pressure on children when their father is as illustrious as IR, that they are able to come out of his shadow and create their own niche is something!
  
  Many children try to emulate the success of parents, but few succeed...Raja should be really happy and proud that his children have a measure of success in the field of music...
  
  I think it's time to throw some objective comments on the works of IR's children rather than digressing on whether they should have chosen this profession...
  
  
• From: hehehewalrus (@ 130.127.119.36) on: Tue Aug 31 15:34:13 EDT 2004
  
  Dear 20 million,
  Emulating the success of one's parents is not a piece of cake in any profession. As such, success is something that's earned, not handed down on a platter.
  Good example is Sunil/Rohan Gavaskar :)
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Aug 31 16:22:09 EDT 2004
  
  http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/movie/H000724.html
  
  Ravi, how come this site has 5 stars for all songs?
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Aug 31 16:37:26 EDT 2004
  
  "Phir Milenge sings a different tune in terms of its musical offerings. Nevertheless, when you have Salman Khan and Abhishek Bachchan playing lead roles, good music is usually a given. To add to the flavor of the soundtrack, multiple composers were used to create the nine songs. S-E-L take the lead since they have five tracks and Bhavathi Raja as well as Nikhil-Vinay each have two. The lyricists are Sameer and Prasoon Joshi who was most recently heard in Hum Tum. "
  
  says another site for this album...which rates at 8.5/10:-))
  
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.2.1.153) on: Tue Aug 31 16:37:57 EDT 2004
  
  Funny this site calls 'bhavatha raja' as `HE':-))
  
  
• From: Teja (@ 63.201.144.200) on: Tue Aug 31 19:32:51 EDT 2004
  
  >S-E-L take the lead since they have five tracks and Bhavathi Raja as well as Nikhil-Vinay each have two
  
  Nikhil-Vinay are not involved with this film in any way.
  Bhavatarini did the BGM and SEL, Bhava composed the songs.
  
  
• From: ahi (@ 210.54.151.3) on: Tue Aug 31 22:33:56 EDT 2004
  
  does anyone know which songs were done by which composers ?
  
  I feel that Bhavatha's songs would be the one with Bombay Jayshree, those songs have diffrent feel to the other ones.
  
  movie is gaining some good reviews, a rarity nowadays.
  
  
• From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 151.148.60.180) on: Tue Aug 31 23:49:20 EDT 2004
  
  Bhavatha composed Kucch Pal by Vijay Yesudas and Phir Milenge ( small song ??as in raaga)
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 61.11.66.46) on: Wed Sep 1 05:54:06 EDT 2004
  
  http://in.rediff.com/movies/2004/sep/01look.htm
  
  
• From: zz (@ 203.145.174.4) on: Wed Sep 1 09:14:15 EDT 2004
  
  New albums of IR's children:-)
  
  Enakku therinchu innum YSR and Bhava voda kalyaana album thaan NEW va varanum..Adharku en vaazhthukkal.
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ 136.1.1.33) on: Fri Sep 3 17:35:58 EDT 2004
  
  "...Bhavatha Raja's background score tugs at the heartstrings and the song ``Jeene Ke Ishare" by Shankar, Ehsaan and Loy, adds to the poignancy..."
  
  says `The Hindu'
  
  http://www.hindu.com/fr/2004/09/03/stories/2004090302110301.htm
  
  
• From: thumburu (@ 83.89.145.50) on: Fri Sep 3 19:17:37 EDT 2004
  
  what? Bhavatharini composing???
  hiyyaa,
  Yaar vennumnaalum compose pannalaam pola irukke?
  
  
• From: Nattamai (@ 217.20.126.133) on: Sat Sep 4 12:46:48 EDT 2004
  
  --- Yaar vennumnaalum compose pannalaam pola irukke?
  
  Yes, another simple example is TB's sister rahaina(machchi's MD)!
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 61.11.66.46) on: Mon Sep 6 04:22:34 EDT 2004
  
  I saw Ads of "Adhu ..." in dinathanthi ... (Coming soon)
  
  Any idea if the movie has any songs ? Why they are releasing the movie without album release ? :(
  
  Nagas
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 61.16.175.243) on: Mon Sep 6 06:04:57 EDT 2004
  
  Hi
  
  AM Ratnam's son Jothi Krishna (E20U18 director) next film is in Tamil and Telugu. Hero : Madhavan Music : Yuvan Shankar Raaja
  Source : Today's Indian Express
  
  
• From: Cinefan (@ 203.101.57.7) on: Mon Sep 6 07:41:36 EDT 2004
  
  http://www.tamilcinema.com/cinenews/Hotnews/september/060904.asp
  
  'Ram' *ing Jeeva&Gazala with YSR as director&Amir(Mounam Pesiyadhe)as director.
  
  
• From: Cinefan (@ 203.101.57.7) on: Mon Sep 6 07:42:50 EDT 2004
  
  Read as :YSR as Music director.
  
  
• From: vikas gupta (@ 57.66.35.195) on: Wed Sep 8 05:28:38 EDT 2004
  
  Phir Milenge has given back the magic of lyric writing to Hindi cinema,Prasoon Joshi is the best thing happened to bollywood music in the recent times.Thanks Revathi for a great album.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198) on: Thu Sep 9 11:34:17 EDT 2004
  
  Y Can't revathy do any tamil films ?????
  
  Bhavatharani is doing the BGM 4 Phir Milenge,
  http://sify.com/movies/bollywood/preview.php?cid=2419
  
  
• From: Cinefan (@ 203.101.56.145) on: Fri Sep 10 06:36:47 EDT 2004
  
  http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/09092004-5.shtml
  
  A movie 'Kathiruppen' with Bhavatharini as MD.
  
  
• From: LOL (@ 81.155.82.210) on: Sun Sep 12 11:06:14 EDT 2004
  
  Cinefan, that is indeed a very saddening news. We will be subjected to the awful music of BD as well having to listen to her screech her way through singing on her albums. To top it off, we have to listen to Sruti Kamal singing in her fathers voice.
  
  This sort of nepotism in music is very disheartening. Probably the producer /director of Kathirruppen is IR's cousin or best friend.
  
  
• From: pANdiyan (@ 136.1.1.33) on: Sun Sep 12 14:18:30 EDT 2004
  
  LOL,
  Judging something before it's even produced ("We will be subjected to the awful music of BD ") is worse than secular-nepotism...you seem to suffer mentally with loads of prejudice and hatred which is worth shedding...
  
  Coming back to NEPOTISM, which is a term originally for religion is now also loosely used in business and other forms of life. I feel it's incorrect to use the term in derogatory sense for anything other than religion. Why?
  
  Very few can say they were not benefited in someway or other from one of the following:
  
  a) the education level of their parents
  b) the money / property of their parents
  c) the talents of their parents
  d) the promoting efforts of their parents
  
  I can show you 1000's of doctors whose parents were either doctors themselves or who had the money to get children educated. Similarly many who could study engineering had parents of reasonably educated background who could push / influence / spend so as to help the success of their children. For example, if my parents weren't educated at all, the chances of me becoming an engineer (after being born in a hamlet) was/is definitely less than 50%. In addition, if they weren't paying my college fees/ hostel bills, it would have been much more difficult to finish the education. You can probably analyse your case too...
  
  I don't see anything wrong in parents trying hard to help their children succeed or the children taking advantage of that to further their carriers, as long as both of them (i.e. the parents and children) do not try illegal, dishonest or unethical means, like stealing, bribing etc.
  
  In Bhava's case, what wrong did IR or Bhava commit to make Bhava a musician? Getting her musically trained was no sin on IR's part, espcially after living his whole life for music. And in a field like cinema, it is not percentage of marks / entrance tests or interview that gets projects:-)) Even if you manage to get one project using the name of your dad, unless you perform, you aren't gonna be there for long...we have seen 100's of children of film personalities who tried and disappeared.
  
  Why prematurely complain now? Wait and see...if she does well, let's appreciate. Otherwise, she'll be shown the door anyway, no one's gonna keep betting their dime on a lame horse!
  
  
• From: pANdiyan (@ 136.2.1.101) on: Sun Sep 19 13:51:25 EDT 2004
  
  Any update on `kAthiruppEn'? Is the cassette released?
  
  
• From: rs (@ 203.101.42.78) on: Tue Sep 21 03:46:09 EDT 2004
  
  pandiyan........ Kaathirunga
  
  
• From: app_engine (@ ) on: Fri Oct 15 13:32:29 EDT 2004
  
  Anandha vikatan interview with Bhava Raja:
  
  
  http://www.vikatan.com/av/2004/oct/24102004/av0505.htm
  
  

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