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WE MET IR

Topic started by cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on Thu Jul 20 06:52:03 EDT 2000.
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Hello friends,
It's me again. And this time, I met IR alongwith another newtfmpage regular, CSG. Unlike the previous occasion, when there was no scope for a chat, today we sat and talked with IR for about...god knows, time stood still, guys. We have no clue.
There were so many things we wanted to ask him, but in his presence, both of us were tongu-tied. Finally CSG found his voice and complimented him on his latest album, Bharati.
He's so incredibly down-to-earth and accessible. And he doesn't spout profundities, but speaks just like you would expect any layman to. That's his greatness. I'm still on a tremendous high....

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Responses:

• From: Venkatesh (@ ww2.ssbcd.co.om) on: Thu Jul 20 07:08:23 EDT 2000
  
  Am dying to know about the full details. Pls don't delay cram.
  
  
• From: csg (@ 202.144.10.93) on: Thu Jul 20 08:00:00 EDT 2000
  
  guys this is csg, as cram pointed out we were speechless when we saw him, his room (where he composes notes)when you enter it you become absolutely calm and forgets to ask him the questions what you have already planned to ask for, here is another inrofmation from the mastero that 'koodamanjil' from the movie kochu kochu sandoshangal is based on rag 'suddha saveri',i request all the tfm friends not to fight on this particular topic cos it is from the composer itself.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Thu Jul 20 08:00:44 EDT 2000
  
  Full details? Ok, here we go. There's not much, actually.
  I asked him about the album he's working on (Moods of Ilaiyaraja), but he refused to divulge anything (athu varumbothu paarunga. isaiyai paththi enna solla?) except to say that it would be an orchestra-based affair, something on the lines of the symphony and the BGM for Hey Ram.
  Talking of Hey Ram, I said that I and thousands of his fans were deeply dejected that he did not win the national award, to which he replied: "Ennai antha vattaththukkulla sekkaatheenga. Ella varushamum yaarukkavathu tharanamnu mudiveduththachchu. yaarukkavathu tharattum. sirappa ethavathu senja athukku awardnu koduththa athula artham irukku.''
  Then CSG wanted a few clarifications on certain ragas in his recent Malayalam songs.
  When we met him, he was busy with the re-recording of Ilayavan, a film starring new faces and directed by some new guy (etho sinna pasanga pannraanga).
  Hopefully, we should be able to attend the recording session tomorrow as well. Have quite a few questions to ask, let's see.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Thu Jul 20 08:02:16 EDT 2000
  
  unbolding
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Thu Jul 20 08:02:58 EDT 2000
  
  grrr
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Thu Jul 20 08:03:36 EDT 2000
  
  GRRRR
  
  
• From: frustrated (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Thu Jul 20 08:04:32 EDT 2000
  
  yaaravthu bold-a release pannungappa
  
  
• From: anban (@ 139.85.161.162) on: Thu Jul 20 08:24:11 EDT 2000
  
  cram
  
  ne kuduthu vechavanpa
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 203.197.178.141) on: Thu Jul 20 08:38:51 EDT 2000
  
  cram
  
  can you tell him his complete disinterest in marketing sometimes has negative effects? for instance, with "Bharathi" it would have been a very simple thing for HMV to print sleeve notes (and if reqd. price it at Rs.45 instead of 40), so that the classic lyrics would've reached so many people unfamiliar with Bharathi's songs.
  pls. tell him that people (like me) are willing to volunteer time & effort (in marketing communications, packaging design etc.) to achieve a better promotion of his music..
  
  in hope...
  
  suresh
  
  
• From: CSG (@ 202.144.10.93) on: Thu Jul 20 08:40:21 EDT 2000
  
  TO GIVE RESPECT TO THAT MAESTRO ILAYARAJA I REQUEST ALL THE TFM FANS TO BUY HIS LATEST ALBUM 'BHARATI'WHERE HE HAS PROVED AGAIN(PROVED IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD), AVARUDUYA NTH NUMBER OF MAGUDATHIL MATRUMORU VAIRA KALL
  
  
• From: e (@ 61.1.250.135) on: Thu Jul 20 08:57:32 EDT 2000
  
  
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.16.161) on: Thu Jul 20 09:12:45 EDT 2000
  
  Will do , CSG
  
  
• From: Anand (@ 202.9.169.118) on: Thu Jul 20 09:15:59 EDT 2000
  
  Cram and CSG vazhthukkal nanbargaley!!!
  Isayai santhithuleergal....koduthu vaithavargal..neengal...
  
  IMHO Bharathi songs sounds me more like a Ayyapan Devotional songs may be due to the singers used 'Madhu and another fellow" any comments...But it is tooooo melodious...
  
  
• From: prakash (@ hide196.nhs.uk) on: Thu Jul 20 10:18:24 EDT 2000
  
  did you ask him about you know what....
  
  
• From: prakash (@ hide196.nhs.uk) on: Thu Jul 20 10:18:59 EDT 2000
  
  did you ask him about you know what....
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Thu Jul 20 11:24:27 EDT 2000
  
  i know, prakash
  i'm sure u know i did not, couldn't summon the guts:-)))
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.138) on: Thu Jul 20 17:36:06 EDT 2000
  
  Cram & CSG,
  I am glad you guys will have another chance to meet up with IR, that too for a recording session. Wow!
  Don't let this opportunity go. Please!
  At least at the end of your next meeting, tell him how eagerly his fans have been awaiting the Symphony's release (so much so that it's become a joke, much to the delight of IR-bashers in this forum).
  
  I have the following suggestions:
  
  Option 1:
  If it can not be released for some reason commercially, just as he made Subbudu listen to the score, his official site can put the score up for the Netizens to savour. This is just one option. (If such an option exists, nothing like it. We will all ensure that it is well-preesented and reaches to the global audience, not just the Tamils. And Rajangahm.com can really achieve its goal.
  
  Option 2:
  He has composed the score. So I presume he owns the intellectual property right. Right? Can he not get another orchestra like say, the Hungarian Philharmonic to perform and release the same under a good, reliable label (or if nothing works out, may be his own label)?
  
  A man of his standing should not find it difficult to get rid of whatever has come in the way of its release. What do you think?
  
  In fact if you have difficulty posing such questions to him, why don't you compose a nice document with all our queries and requests, print it out and deliver to him?
  All the best guys!
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.223) on: Fri Jul 21 01:05:37 EDT 2000
  
  cram & csg:
  Can you ask him whether he (or KR) browse thru newtfmpage? esp DF:-)
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.129) on: Fri Jul 21 08:21:59 EDT 2000
  
  http://aaraamthinai.com/cinema/july0021/news03.asp
  
  If possible, please check with them whether the rumors on his financial difficuties are true(such news is intolerable to fellows like me) and if so how much truth is there in the above statement?
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Jul 21 12:19:00 EDT 2000
  
  Hello everyone
  
  Oh, what a day it has been. The greatest afternoon of my life so far. About 45 minutes with the genius himself, us asking questions and he patiently, but not indifferently, replying to them. The re-recording for Ilayavan was cancelled and as a result, he was free for the day and that's how the chat happened. We spoke about so many things, I can't remember where we began.
  
  Next year is his 25th year in TFM, keeping Annakkili release as the base ("naan athukku munnaleye vanthaachchu, 25 varushaththukku mele aayaachchu"). To a suggestion that it may be commemorated through a function and/or docmuentary on his work, he flatly refused to allow anything of that sort. I pointed out that HMV had brought out a videotape on Lata Mangeshkar's life and times, and maybe we could do somthing on those lines, but he was steadfast in his refusal.
  
  CSG asked him about his penchant for composing songs in Mohanam ragam, to which he smilingly said: "Andha nerathula athu thonichchu avvalavu thaan."
  
  On releasing his BGM tracks the way they do in Hollywood, he said: "Copyright laws are strict there. But here, my albums HTNI and NBW have been used without my permission. Kettukittu seyyattum, aana inge antha isaiyai cheap pannaraanga."
  I piped in with: "Unga paatta kooda niraiya per copy adikkaraanaga." Oh, a raw nerve was touched, not surprisingly!
  "yaaru thaan en paatta copy adikkala. ellarumthaan adikkaraanga."
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Jul 21 13:09:04 EDT 2000
  
  More later
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.23.185) on: Fri Jul 21 13:26:12 EDT 2000
  
  craamarE, enna dhigil thodar kathai ezuthuvathaaga ninaippaa ? seekkiram solumaiyyaa ! :-)
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.168) on: Fri Jul 21 15:22:31 EDT 2000
  
  MS,
  Narrations like this have to be prolonged as much as possible;)) ellathayum orediyaaga sonna chappunu irukkum.
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ ww2.ssbcd.co.om) on: Sun Jul 23 03:55:52 EDT 2000
  
  Cram/CSG
  
  Where is Part II of your discussions with IR? Please do share it with us. I hope you had about 90 minutes of collective discussions with IR.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Sun Jul 23 06:00:21 EDT 2000
  
  Hello friends,
  
  I'm back.
  
  I asked him about how it was working with Padmarajan, a Malayalam film-maker who I regard as one the best India has produced (IR worked with him in Moonnam Pakkam and Season). "Oh, he was a fine screenplay writer. He handled subjects that no one else dared to. His approach was totally different. He also had a fine sense of music."
  Taking off from there, I asked whether certain Tamil film directors and their stories had inspired him more than others, mentioning Mahendran.
  "Tamil cinema oru kurugiya vattam. Enna situation kuduthara poraanga? Manjolai kilithano maanthano appadinnu oru paattu. Oru barberoda magan velaiya paakaama pattu paadikittu thirinjukittirukkan. oru ponna paakkaraan. Intha situation-la enna irukku? Ellaame enakkullenthu vanthathu thaan. antha nerathula thonichchu. potten. idhula directors, kathai, situation ethuvume ennakku inspiration illai. Music should not be made. It should happen. Oru paravai parakkudhunna, atha neenga computer-la pottu oru mechanical process-a kaamikkalam. irunthaalum at that moment, that flight happens spontaneously. athu-thaan beauty. athey maathiri, music-a notes-aa pirichchhu kaamikkalaam, illa computer-la pottu vibrations-a kaamichchudalaam. but if it happens, and is not made, it will be beautiful.
  
  "Paruvame puthiya paadal paadu-nnu oru paattu. rendu per kaalaila jogging poranga. idhula enna irukku"
  I chipped in with: "athey maathiri Johny padathula en vaanile..."
  "aama, what is it? just a piano song. ellame namakku antha nerathula varuvathuthaan.''
  [idhu ellarukku thona maattenguthe RAAJA, appadinnu naan manasukkulle sollikitten].
  
  i asked him if he decided on a particular raga for a song. "idhuthaan mettunnu mudiveduththa appauram athula enna irukku? valluvanum bharathiyum idhuthaan paadal-nu mudiveduththa ezhuthinaanga? appa thonichchu, padaichchanga."
  
  "tamil cinemavukkaga naan isaiyamaikkarathilla. ennoda isaiyai athula seththukkaraanga. isai alaialaiya odikittirukku. atha oru sinna kattam pottu ungalukku kaamikkaraanga, avvalavuthaan. aana antha alai oyarathilla.
  "ippo tamil padathula enna situation kuduthara mudiyum? oru thaalattu, illa oru bhayangara sogam, illa oru payyan muthal muthala oru ponna thottuttan, illa kiss pannitttan, illa rendu perum oru periya sandaikkapparum pirinjirukkaanga, idhukku mele enna situation irukkappovuthu."
  
  Moving on, both of us said: "Naanga kaala kaalama unga paatta kettukittirukkom. Neenga yaar isaiyai ketpathundu?"
  "Evvalavo per irukkaangappa. Madan Mohan, Roshan, C Ramchandra, Salil Chowdhury, SD Burman...namma oorla C R Subbaraman, SV Venkatraman" he was just reeling out names. "Ivanga paattellam kelunga. annikku pottatdhu, innikku fresh-aa irukkum.''
  
  "Oru nalla paatta ketkumpozhuthu, rendu vidhamana unarvugal erpadanum. Indha paattoda jenma jenmamaana thodarpu irukkungara maathiri feeling varanum. illa, idhu pudhusa irukku, appadinnu thonanum. atha vittuttu `indha maathiri paatta naan kettathe illai' appadinnu eppadi sollalaam? nee evvalavu kettirukke? etho porandhadhulernthu ella isaiyaiyum ketta maathiri..."
  
  "evvalavo medhaigal irukkaanga. mozart-nnu oruththan 200 varushathukku munnaaleye 200 varushathukkana isaiyai pottuttu poyitaan, atha naama innum kettukittirukkom, vaasichchu kittirukkom." (when he was talking about mozart, you should have seen his face light up).
  
  Unga isaiyum kaalaththaal azhiyatha kaaviyanthannu solli oru phoito eduththukittu naanga vidai petrom.
  
  
• From: amal raj (@ 203.197.240.47) on: Sun Jul 23 10:45:31 EDT 2000
  
  hai cram,
  
  when you next meet him please ask why he is still holding on to tamil films though he knows there is nothing new coming along why can't he compose more and more classical karnatic or western albums and also ask about the symphoney
  and just tell him there are lots of fans of him who thinks that he is the greatest music composer who has dwelled in this earth.vaazgha raja!
  
  

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