Topic started by mathureshan (@ 194.186.124.34) on Sat Jun 9 08:09:44 EDT 2001.
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hi guys i think deva gave chance in nerukunear,now
sitpy in mr naradhar.hope she will get chance after national award.
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- From: suresh kumar (@ 202.188.83.221)
on: Sat Jun 9 10:24:59 EDT 2001
Bavatharini has a very sweet voice. No one can deny this.From my point of view, i think she and harini have similar voices. Harini has a very strong Carnatic background.This is her plus point compared to Bavatharini.That is why Harini is getting more chances.Kartik Raja and Yuvan Shankar Raja are the main music directors who use Bavatharini for their songs.
- From: (^!^) (@ 216.63.14.254)
on: Sat Jun 9 12:28:42 EDT 2001
NEPOTISM!!!
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.214)
on: Sat Jun 9 18:11:18 EDT 2001
Suresh Kumar:
Regarding the classical music training of Bhava, I feel u r wrong. In any way, she might have had superior training as the Guru would have been famous and knowing that the girl is Raaja's daughter. I suppose her Gurus are T.V.Gopalakrishnan and O.S.Thiagarajan. Also, she learnt carnatic and western for years together and she has WCM knowledge too!
Comparing with Harini, she was an ordinary school-going girl at the time "Indira-Nila Kaigirathu" song was recorded. Also, her Gurus would not have been so famous and experienced as Bhava's (Just a guess!). She might not have better knowledge in WCM.
This is only my opinion, not statement!
Also, I feel that Harini and Bhava's voices are distinctly separate if you hear properly! Then, KR and YSR give chances to Harini too equally or even more than they do to Bhava.
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- From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Sat Jun 9 23:28:23 EDT 2001
I can say a word but it would be considered bashing :-)
- From: Vijay (@ 207.212.64.80)
on: Sun Jun 10 00:25:14 EDT 2001
I find a lot of occasions where Bhava's voice becomes flat. This makes a bit un*suhicable*. But she has done some better songs as well, like the one in Bharathi.
- From: Vijay (@ 207.212.64.80)
on: Sun Jun 10 00:25:57 EDT 2001
suhicable is a anglo-tamil
- From: NagaS (@ 202.62.83.34)
on: Sun Jun 10 06:38:41 EDT 2001
Mathuresan,
She already sang for siRpi in 'Alps Malaik katRu vanthu' song (With HariHaran) from movie 'Thedinaen Vanthathu'.
Suresh kumar & Vijay,
I have seen Bhava's carnatic music katchery in SunTV for some pongal/diwali special program., So She has some carnatic background, no idea how much of it she uses :-)
I feel Harini is not the person you can compare with Bhava., IMO S.P.Sailaja and Uma RamaNan can be compared with her voice and uchcharippu.
Ayyo, eththanai kal vanthu vizap poguthoo theriyalaiyee :-)))))
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- From: suresh kumar (@ 203.106.120.49)
on: Mon Jun 11 11:18:43 EDT 2001
Guys ,u never believed me when i said harini and bava, have similar voices. Listen to "yennanne paadu paduturan" from aandan adimai.Both of them sung this song. By the way, did u all listened to "eera nila" from Aravinthan. This song sung by mahanathi shobana. Her voice is so similar to harini. (or is it bavatharini? By the way, what happened to mahanathi shobana?
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.230)
on: Mon Jun 11 12:36:59 EDT 2001
I was listening to this duet song "Ooo Vaanmadhi" by Aadhityan(dunno which movie).The male voice is Unnikrishnan.The female voice seemed like Bhavatharini.Could someone confirm?(couldn't find the song on the web)
- From: shaNmugam (@ 63.101.96.1)
on: Mon Jun 11 20:42:34 EDT 2001
Trend,
The movie is 'asuran' - don't know who the female singer is.
- From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.186)
on: Tue Jun 12 05:10:38 EDT 2001
suresh kumar,
I also felt the same when I listened to 'Eeera Nila' (Wonderful song, Isn't it !) from Aravindhan., She sounds more and more like Harini in that particular song., Probably YSR did it intentionally ?
Mahanadhi Shobana now concentrates more on pop albums and bakthip paattukkaL., Recently she did one song in VidyaSagar's 'Nilaavae Vaa'
NagaS
- From: kila-kila (@ 210.88.56.56)
on: Fri Jun 15 03:56:39 EDT 2001
Any problem to the person who raised the thread.
- From: (@ 213.11.117.254)
on: Fri Jun 15 04:48:35 EDT 2001
Bhavadharini has a distinct problem with Shruthi and singing with any type of emotion. Her singing is simply not of a very high standard. The national awards were a real 'farce' this year.
I find it hard to believe that she has any Classical training, as the main aim of Carnatic music is Shruthi control.
Very few other directors will give her a chance, as they have to do a lot of mixing to make her sound half decent. KR has been able to do this with his excellent mixing techniques.
ARR's Sister Kanchana is in a similar position. Again, she sings maily for chorus and has only sung once for Deva. She has done more in Telungu. Kanchana is releasing an Album very soon.
- From: suresh kumar (@ 203.106.181.123)
on: Fri Jun 15 11:18:47 EDT 2001
well, the song "ooo vanmathi" from Asuran is sung by Unnikrishnan and Lalita Sagari. It is a beautiful song.
What happened to these people:
- Uma Ramanan.
- Sunantha.
-Anupama.
-music director of V.I.P
-music director of Kodeswaran.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.230)
on: Fri Jun 15 13:00:01 EDT 2001
suresh kumar,
Thanks.Any info about who Lalita Sagari is,her other songs etc?
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.54.33.216)
on: Fri Jun 15 13:14:41 EDT 2001
Lalitha Sagari has sung "Nagaru Nagaru" from "Sathya" - Kamal Starrer music by IR!
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- From: IR, ARR, KR, and YSR fan (@ 213.122.97.231)
on: Fri Jun 15 13:37:12 EDT 2001
I am surprised that so many people believe that Bhavatharini sounds like Harini.Just because they are both females,doesn't bring any sort of similarity between their voices.Frankly I believe that Bhavatharini is one of the worst singers I have heard in TFM.I am even more surprised that IR uses her in his music.Most big playback singer are often quoted as saying that their ambition in TFM is to sing a song for IR.When so many people regard IR highly,it is quite disappointing to see him use Bhavatharini in so many songs that could have been hits if performed by other singer.
I think Harini is a wonderful upcoming singer and she shows her classical training in all her songs.Please don't waste our time by comparing the Two of them because there is no comparison. Like people say that Deva is not a MD, I say Bhavatharini is not a singer.
If IR, KR or YSR didn't waste songs on her, they could have had more hit songs.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.231)
on: Fri Jun 15 13:49:17 EDT 2001
Vijay Venkatram J,
Thanks.
- From: Radhais (@ 139.87.43.109)
on: Fri Jun 15 20:15:38 EDT 2001
I think Bhavatharini has sung a song in the movie Nerukku ner composed by Deva.I dont remember the song though.
- From: kk (@ 205.188.195.216)
on: Sat Jun 16 03:31:03 EDT 2001
The reason she sings at all is because she is from raja family.
The reason she doesnt sing for others is also because she is from raja family.
- From: icekutti (@ 66.43.8.82)
on: Sat Jun 16 15:28:14 EDT 2001
Kaakaiku than kunju pon kunju
.......... and of cors, who else would tolerate her gawdawfulscreecherofavoice than her ever loving family?
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53)
on: Sun Jun 17 00:24:54 EDT 2001
Come on guys..get a life..Bhavatharini has got an unique voice of her own...when ARR can make singers without the knowledge of Tamil sound good then why not Bhava..I think it is all preconceived notions that you have in your heads about how a voice should sound...maybe u people get stuck up into details...many have bashed IR's and ARR's voices too - I personally have enjoyed all their numbers without analysing how their voices sound...enjoy the song experience in its totality and then later maybe analyse what could have been better ...if you have the capability
- From: suresh kumar (@ 203.106.178.91)
on: Sun Jun 17 10:21:02 EDT 2001
attention please!!!
"OO Vanmathi" from Asuran is sung by Unni krishnan and Sangeetha (not the actress), and not Lalitha Sagari, as I mentioned earlier. Sorry people!!!
- From: suresh kumar (@ 203.106.178.91)
on: Sun Jun 17 10:26:09 EDT 2001
Sangeetha has sung another song from Asuran called " match kucchi pattikichi"
Nice song. Listen to it.
- From: dheenadhayal (@ 203.197.146.106)
on: Sun Jun 17 11:12:00 EDT 2001
which other fool would give the goddamned bhavatha a song.the whoel industry knows she cant sing for nuts and IR knows it too being a genius.
"paasam kannai maraikkudhu"
"kaakkaikkum than kunju pon kunju"
the national award is not the verdict of the true music fans anyway.
i have nothing personal against her.better she marries and get settled soon or more national awards would become bogus stuff
- From: Sugrutha (@ 65.11.240.45)
on: Sun Jun 17 13:08:33 EDT 2001
I completely agree with Cosmician.(MSV-ya maRanthutteengaLE :-))
- From: siva (@ 203.126.228.21)
on: Mon Jun 18 05:13:10 EDT 2001
The chances can get only from her family. Her voice is hooovoooroooo Aaha.
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53)
on: Mon Jun 18 08:12:55 EDT 2001
I add MSV too Sugrutha :) and all the others who love to sing and make up for the lack of in-born talent with hard work and passion....
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