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TFM and Ballroom Dancing

Topic started by muthax (@ client209-42-213-93.intrex.net) on Tue Oct 6 17:01:14 EDT 1998.
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Dear DFers,

We have been discussing a lot about TFM, composers, lyricists, singers, the new trend the (g)oldies, melody, rythym, beat etc etc etc......
In this thread i wud like to get a feedback from u all and based on ur feedback i want to decide on something which i wanted to do for quite sometime.
Yes my query is
"can u guys name a few good songs which can be choreographed for a ballroom dance?".
Hey Hold on!!!
I will tell u the background for my query also.
I am learning ballroom dance for quite sometime now. In December our batch has to choreograph our dance for some intra-school festival. I have a team of 3 with me. we four have to choreograph for three songs(basically 20 mins programme).
So I have decided to make my team dance for the tunes of IR/MSV/ARR and others. The other three are *not* indians.
All i want u guys to do is to suggest me some songs from which i will select three of them to choreograph.
It wud be of great help from u guys if ur suggestion pours in. I have to deicde by 25th of this month and start the choreography with my team. some experienced dancers from the DF can also give me some suggestions.
The song can be of waltz, tango type.
I have few songs in my mind.
The first which comes out my mind is
"Unnidam Mayangugiren"

Thanx in advance guys!

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Responses:

• From: Srinath (@ gate3.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Tue Oct 6 17:47:14 EDT 1998
  
  "Kann Pona Pokile Kaal Pogalama" ;-)
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ gate3.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Tue Oct 6 17:56:23 EDT 1998
  
  A racier number could be "Kannan Vandu Paaduginran" from Rettai Vaal Kuruvi.
  
  If the lyrics are of no major consequence, "Nalam Vaazha".
  
  "Uravugal Sirukadhai, Unarvugal Thodarkadhai" - from what I can remember of the song.
  
  "Chinna Pura Onru" - if the pathos doesn't bother you much.
  
  "Paruvame, Pudhiya Paadal Paadu"
  
  Muthax, I am using very general guidelines for suggesting these songs. I hope they are along the line of what you expect. Can you give us more info about the choreography ? How much liberty can you take with the traditional styles ? Is it going to be radical or conventional ?
  
  Note: I can't dance to save my life ! I can only ask questions that sound important ;-))))
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue Oct 6 18:36:10 EDT 1998
  
  Nilavum Malarum Vaaduthu
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue Oct 6 18:40:20 EDT 1998
  
  -Aththaan Ennaththaan
  -Aayiram Malargalae Malarungal
  -Kaadhoduthaan Naan Paaduvaen
  -Ennavalae Adi Ennavalae
  -Ellorum Nalam Vaazha
  -Chinna Penn Aanapothilae
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Oct 6 21:29:59 EDT 1998
  
  Muthax - Interesting. :-))
  How about Unnai ondru keitpein?
  If you can get the video, you can even get some ideas for the dance movements.
  
  Udhaya - Of course you know that Chinna penn aanapoathiley is a "copy" of Engelbert Humperdink's Que sera sera, whatever will be will be.
  Surely we don't want that kind of recognition. :-))
  
  
• From: muthax (@ user-38ld9ic.dialup.mindspring.com) on: Wed Oct 7 00:09:04 EDT 1998
  
  Srinath,
  I have to stick on to the basic footwork. I can place my steps anyway based on the footwork. for eg if u take Waltz, it is based on three steps. throughout the waltz dance+waltz type of music u get three beats and u dance for those three beats with the combination of turn and other graceful movements. There are some songs which has four beats but still u can suppress one beat and dance waltz. Btw, during the christian wedding the broom and the bride (ofcourse with the guests) dance waltz.
  
  Udhaya, I did have athaan ennathan in my mind. Thanx. But nilavum malarum is a good pick it didn't strike me. After i read ur posting iam searching for that cassette in my collection. :))
  Que sera sera is the song which comes in the movie "Man who knew too much" correct?
  
  more about it soon....
  
  muthax
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Oct 7 00:33:34 EDT 1998
  
  - the western notes in thillana moganambal
  - ram bam bam (MMKR) ,but it is also a copy,isn't it.
  - devathai ilam devi
  - parakkum pandhu parakkum
  - andru vandhadhum idhe nilA
  i don't know if these are atleast miles closer to what u had in mind.
  
  
• From: balaji (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed Oct 7 00:34:37 EDT 1998
  
  what about en vAnile ore veNNila?
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Oct 7 05:28:23 EDT 1998
  
  dear muthax
  
  how about rasaathi en usiru from robber robber? think its good ballroom material, but of course with a melancholy touch
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Oct 7 06:15:52 EDT 1998
  
  just thought of a few more tunes that u may like to dance to, muthax.
  
  here we go:
  
  enna paarvai unthan paarvai -- kaathalikka neramillai
  anubavam puthumai from same film
  intha punnagai enna vila - some mgr film
  ennai theriyumaaaaa - another mgr film
  
  have fun dancing away ur blues.
  
  shall get back to u with more ideas
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed Oct 7 08:39:31 EDT 1998
  
  Endhan uiril ulzavum Devi by ARR, from MONALISA.
  It's a waltz rhythm and everytime I hear it, I think of a ballroom dance.
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Wed Oct 7 08:51:49 EDT 1998
  
  hi geetha
  
  cram here. never heard of an ARR track called mona lisa. is it a forthcoming movie venture of his? pls elaborate.
  
  
• From: muthax (@ client209-42-213-93.intrex.net) on: Wed Oct 7 11:18:29 EDT 1998
  
  cram,
  
  raasathi enn usiru enathila is a rich song.
  there are lot of scope for superb fusion in that song. But i wont be able to bring the ballroom class for that song i think(me no pro :(( ).
  but wud try my best to do a fusion on that song. wanted to try such a thing for quite sometime.
  Geetha, i have not heard about this Monolisa. please let me know about it.
  
  Guys, this morning while coming to office i was listening to mahanadhi songs after a long time(maybe 8-10 months).Wow!!! it took me to madras. Begining of the song Thuvakkam engae? is a beautiful piece.
  Guitar in the prelude of the song Anbana thayai vittu enga nee ponaalum is also good.
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ spider-tl011.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Oct 7 11:29:36 EDT 1998
  
  Muthax:
  Sounds like a fun project. If you need "nilavum malarum paadudhu" I can send you the tape.
  
  Some waltz-type numbers:
  kaN pOna pOkkilE--paNam padaiththavan
  anRu vandhadhum idhE nilA--periya idaththuppeN
  kalyANa nAL pArkka sollalAmA--paRakkum pAvai?
  vaNNakkiLi sonna mozhi enna mozhiyO--dheivaththAi
  thuyilAdha peN onRu kaNdEn--meeNda sorgam (will be excellent)
  
  Others:
  paLinginAl oru mALigai (LRE, movie??) is a true cha-cha.
  Of course, then there is yAradi nee mOhini :-)
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Wed Oct 7 11:44:00 EDT 1998
  
  Cram/Muthax: Monalisa is the Tamil version of Kabhie Na Kabhie and it had a very good song, Veesum Thendral Kaatrinile(Karaharapriya Ragam) and a revamp of Anjali from Duet in the Hindi version. It was released last year. The film was made for Hindi only, so won't be released in Tamil.
  
  Here is more information about the film:
  http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5715/kabhi.html
  
  This particular song is in two versions, Unni's and Prabakar's and holds a beautiful waltz.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ gate3.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Wed Oct 7 12:28:53 EDT 1998
  
  "Anbulla Maan Vizhiye, Aasayil Ore Kadidham"
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ gate3.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Wed Oct 7 12:30:22 EDT 1998
  
  "Aaan Enna Penn Enna"
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ gate3.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Wed Oct 7 12:32:20 EDT 1998
  
  "Oh, Ho ! Endhan Baby !" - the interludes are also good in this number.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ gate3.ca.us.ibm.com) on: Wed Oct 7 12:35:26 EDT 1998
  
  "Yen Vaaniley" - Johnny. Sorry for the separate posting ;-) 2ndu nimishathukku oru paatu nybagam varudhu :-)
  
  
• From: Shankar Ramakrishnan (@ sdn-ts-011casjosp02.dialsprint.net) on: Wed Oct 7 23:54:17 EDT 1998
  
  "Kann ponna pokkile" in "Panam Padaiththavan" is a good choice. Nice waltz beat. Not coincidentally enough, the choreography in the sequence is classy, even by Western standards. Does anyone remember the name of the choreographer? Think the director of the movie is Bheem Singh, though I am not too sure. "Unnidam mayangugiren" in "Thaen Sindudhe Vaanam" which also features the hero playing a grand piano (and one of my all-time favoriites) has varying beats, doesn't quite lend itself to dancing though. I still think it is one of V. Kumar's bests.
  
  In general, any song with an uninterrupted adhi thaalam lends itself quite well to waltz. Others like fox-trot are a little bit more complicated.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ sf-dnpqh-042.compuserve.net) on: Thu Oct 8 04:03:16 EDT 1998
  
  "Indru muthal selvamithu" by SPB for VKumar has a nice waltz beat.
  Another V Kumar number, "Oru Naal Yaaro enna paadal" should fit in well.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu Oct 8 13:51:24 EDT 1998
  
  Kanmani anboadu kaadhalan naan ezhuthum kadithamae (sans the dialogues)
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu Oct 8 14:05:12 EDT 1998
  
  -ulavum thendral kaatrinilae
  
  I was also thinking of "Ore Naal Unai Naan" but after the pallavi the tune changes may not be suitable for waltz, what say you pundits?
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.246) on: Sun Oct 11 18:29:38 EDT 1998
  
  isn't 'pootukal pottaalum' from chathriyan by SJ a wonderful song for fast dancing?
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.234) on: Sun Oct 11 23:54:58 EDT 1998
  
  Does "Chandirarum Sooriyarum" of Avatharam fit this discussion ?
  
  Regards
  
  Murali Sankar
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ ) on: Thu May 6 14:07:03 EDT 1999
  
  muthax,
  Thalaiva, just today I found the perfect ballroom waltz for you. "Paarvai Ondrae Podhumaa" a TMS/LRE duet from "Yaar Nee". LRE is amazing in this. TMS left me yearning for the more suitable AMR and SPB for this beautiful tune. All in all still a very good song since it also has Kannadhasan pouring it on perfectly for the waltz pattern.
  
  

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