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Hindi Film Music Directors in TF

Topic started by Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.6) on Tue Dec 29 18:51:58 EST 1998.
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Hai,

I just wanted to discuss about the impact created by hindi film music directors in TF, how many of them were really successful and so on.

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• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Dec 29 23:33:12 EST 1998
  
  The only HFMD to give some good songs in tamil was Salilda. though he gave very few (is it just 2??)movies his songs from azhiyAdha kOlangaL and dhoorathu idi muzhakkam were truly amazing.
  
  LK-PL gave some hit songs (panneeril nanaidha pookkaL mella sirikka). manoj gyan too gave some good tunes.
  
  IMO, none of them had a great impact on public. That may be bcos, Raja was (literally) ruling TFM ( in fact he made 54 movies in 1984 and 56 in 1993 and 30+ per year betn 84-92).That cud be the reason why they went un-noticed.
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.152) on: Wed Dec 30 07:04:15 EST 1998
  
  RD Burman also had a brief stint in TFM (Remember "Nadiya Nadiya Nile Nadiya"? It was a remake of the Hindi song "Aise Na Mujhe Tum Dekho". He also scored the music for one Satyaraj-Goutami starrer, but the songs weren't great.
  Apart from these, there may be some dubbed films (like some one pointed out earlier taht Akbar was a dubbed version of the Classic Mughal-E-Azam).
  
  And we all know that Veda, the music composer became famous by copying many Hindi numbers in Tamil. So, some select HFM directors have contributed to TFM in some way or the other. However, it is our MDs that have given a larger contribution to HFM. Anand Milind became what they are today solely because of IR. And thankfully, ARR himself is composing there thereby reducing their chance of copying his numbers.
  By the way, I was shocked to hear this song by Anand-Milind in a recent film, which is copied from the Johny song "Aasaya Kaathula Thoodu Vittu". And all along I thought, now that IR is not doing many films, this duo doesn't have a chance. And look, they have set their sight on his golden oldies! Shameless, I should say!
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Gatsby (@ 206.88.172.189) on: Wed Dec 30 09:47:42 EST 1998
  
  There was a movie *ing Anand babu, think Paadum Vaanambadi and the MD was RD Burman(not sure though). I believe the songs were popular for sometime. Was it a remake of Disco Dancer?
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.152) on: Wed Dec 30 11:20:27 EST 1998
  
  Gatsby,
  
  Yes! The film was a remake of Disco Dancer starring Mithun Chakraborthy. But the MD was Bhappi Lahiri (the 'original DEVA' of Hindi Music- ORIGINAL Deva:I think that itself is an OXYMORON)
  Bhappi Lahiri also composed for 'Apooorva Sahodarigal' starring Radha, Suhasini and Urvasi.
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.16) on: Wed Dec 30 14:47:49 EST 1998
  
  Neels,
  
  The Satyaraj - Gauthami starrer you are talking about is the film "Ulagam pirandhadhu enakkaaga". All the songs in the film were junk and the BGM was horrible.
  
  Shankar,
  
  "panneeril nanaindha pookkal mella sirikka" is from a film by "Motherland Pictures" Kovaithambi and it starred Mohan and Nadhiya in the lead roles. I don't remember the name of the film. It seems that Kovaithambi had some problems with IR and so he introduced LK - PL to TFM. The songs were ok but it didn't create any impact on IR's domination of TFM. The BGM of the film was not great and all. It was very ordinary. But LK - PL did their job quite well in that film. Later, Kovaithambi came back to IR for his next film "Unnai Vaazhthi Paadugiraen". How did the Mohan, Nadhiya film fare in the box office? Can you tell me the name of the film?
  
  I remember another movie starring Sarath Kumar and Naghma. It is "Ragasiya Police" and I think the MD of the movie is LK - PL. I am not sure about the MD though. That film had one good song "mayil thogai azhaithaal mazhai megam virumbum". However, the BGM was not great.
  
  What could be the reason for their music not making much of an impact in TFM irrespective of their status in HFM? Did their songs, and music as such, lack nativity?
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.152) on: Wed Dec 30 15:50:23 EST 1998
  
  Shanmugam Murugappan,
  
  The Mohan-Nadiya film is "Urire Unakkaga". It was a moderate hit, I think. (It was one of those innumerable rehashes of Roman Holiday, the latest one being May Madham).
  
  Well, talking about the HFM directors' unsuccessful foray in TFM, I think the case is quite similar to our MDs not been able to make it there (ARR and Maragatha Mani being exceptions).
  
  The time was different and the music industry wasn't as developed as it is now and they were happy doing their stuff in their own land.
  Plus, these guys didn't slog it out to give their best numbers for the Tamil films. Had the producers/directors insisted, they might have even happily reproduced some of their best scores from Hindi (like Salil Choudhry did, atleast once with 'Naan Ennum Pozhudu' by SPB in Azhiyada Kolangal. The original was by Lata in the Hindi classic, 'Anand'.
  
  Was IR bothered about the lukewarm response to his scores in Hindi? Probably not. Probably a little disappointed. He gave Sadma (Moondram Pirai), Appu Raja (Apoorva Sahodarargal), Nayakan, Dalapathy (all dubbed movies) and an occasional direct Hindi film like Mahadev. None of these albums scored in the Hindi belt. As I said earlier in yet another thread, Anand Milind did get their name and fame by copying many of IR's numbers.
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.152) on: Wed Dec 30 15:56:16 EST 1998
  
  For some strange reason, Maragatha Mani is called MM Kreem in Hindi!!!!!!!!!!
  
  Kreem? Yieeks!
  
  He is called Keeravani in Telugu Film Industry. now, THAT sounds like a nice name. Wonder if numerology or any such sentiment is behind this...
  Or is it plain Hindi Chauvinism of not accepting South-Indian sounding names.
  
  That makes me wonder, WHAT IF A R RAHMAN was some ARUL MOZHI or ELANGOVAN? Will HFM have accepted him???
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ inet21.us.oracle.com) on: Wed Dec 30 16:04:27 EST 1998
  
  LK-PL seemed better than other MD's while scoring for TFM. The movie 'Apoorva Sahodharigal' also had good songs, apart from 'Uyire Unakkaaga'. Mebbe, their style was kinda close to our liking. But, look at RDB: his' sounded very much foreign, probably b'coz he didn't care to change the style to our liking. I've not much to say about BL. The remake movie 'Paadum Vaanmbaadi' also contained recycled music, and that's the reason for the hit.
  
  I would say LK-PL faired better trying to give original music.( Of course, that means I couldn't locate the hindi original music!!)
  
  
• From: Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.16) on: Wed Dec 30 16:37:51 EST 1998
  
  Neels,
  
  > That makes me wonder, WHAT IF A R RAHMAN was > some ARUL MOZHI or ELANGOVAN? Will HFM have > accepted him???
  
  I too have the same doubt. Anyway, if HFM people didn't like IR or his name "Ilayaraja" (I will not say they didn't like IR's music - then how did tunes copied from IR's music became hits in HFM), it is their loss and definitely not IR's loss. In fact, IR need not bother about their liking as he is a musical genius and also he has so many fans in Thamizh Nadu who just love his music and who are anxiously waiting for his musical albums one after the other.
  
  
• From: V (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Thu Dec 31 17:05:27 EST 1998
  
  Apart from the ones mentioned above, some other instances of HFM MDs in TF are :
  
  R. D. Burman (Anbu thambi)
  LP (Mangai oru gangai)
  Babul Bose (Nanbargal), etc.
  
  All the above had very mediocre (read lousy) music.
  
  BTW, in the yesteryears, a few movies with C. Ramachandra's music were dubbed in Tamil.
  
  
• From: V (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Thu Dec 31 17:08:41 EST 1998
  
  Shankar,
  Manoj-Gyan, perhaps, might not qualify as HFM MDs, for I don't think they ever scored music for HF. But they were from North India allright, and their music had a strong HFM flavour (along with the thambattai ) :-)
  
  
• From: V (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Thu Dec 31 17:10:32 EST 1998
  
  Oops, read thambattai as thambattam...
  
  
• From: Vikram (@ sdn-ar-003florlap145.dialsprint.net) on: Sat Jan 2 18:32:54 EST 1999
  
  Manoj Gyan has scored quite a few Hindi movies
  in 80s. I am positive about it.
  
  
• From: pratichi (@ ) on: Sat Jul 19 07:26:24 EDT 2003
  
  Hi,
  
  just returned from chennai, where a tamil colleague of mine insisted that 'aise na mujhe tum dekho' (from darling darling) was originally a tamil number and then was copied by bollywood. but in ur mails above it seems that it was the otehr way, could you tell me which one came first and would also like to know the tamil movie's name, want to hear the same song in tamil.
  
  thanks
  
  pratichi
  
  
• From: sena (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Sat Jul 19 10:23:40 EDT 2003
  
  To me telugu MD's contributed more than hindi MD's in TF. Do you agree with it?.
  
  
• From: sena (@ 128.148.68.110) on: Sat Jul 19 19:31:25 EDT 2003
  
  Comparitively telugu MD's are more succesful than hindi MD's in TFM.
  
  Yes
  Maragathamani-Many hits
  koti-Hellobrothers
  Ramanagokula-Badri
  Mani sharma-Many hits
  Devisriprasad-Ice and IIKI
  R.P.Patnayak-Presently entered
  
  

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