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Nonsense songs in TFM

Topic started by RV (@ 1cust95.max2.santa-clara.ca.ms.uu.net) on Fri Feb 13 01:31:26 EST 1998.
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• From: RV (@ 1cust95.max2.santa-clara.ca.ms.uu.net) on: Fri Feb 13 01:37:35 EST 1998
  
  I apologize if this is a repeat by any chance. I looked in the archives but couldnt find this topic.
  
  Whenever I think of fun filled nonsense lyric, the first and practically the only song that pops into my mind is the incomparable "Eena Meena Deeka" by Kishore Kumar in Asha.
  
  Are there any such songs in TFM ? At least some part of the song should be pure nonsense; I cant think of any meaningless words songs, but at least "Aattukkutti Muttaiyittu" doesnt make any sense.
  
  Many people may say that most of the songs today are nonsense. ;-)
  
  Jollylo Gymkhana is the closest I can think of.
  
  
• From: asattu_ambi (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Fri Feb 13 08:17:46 EST 1998
  
  RV:
  
  Atukutti muttai ittu - makes sense when you look at the situation for
  which it was written (by Kannadasan).
  The sappANi (padipillAthavan) is trying to make maiyilu laugh
  using his own funny imaginations.
  
  In almost all the ARR's choros words are meaningless:
  
  kuluvAlilE....
  kuchi kuchi rAkammA
  mukkAlA mukAbullA lailA
  
  In the old songs:
  aaN kaviyai vella vandha peN kaviyE varuga
  (kanchanA ungaLaik koopidalai!!)
  
  in the end of the song it goes like:
  
  chachhu pitchu mochu..athu..choci chAchu....
  
  (kiLigaL pEsuthunnu solla - SSR madaiyan sarinu solli thalayAti thOlviya othukuvAn)
  
  "ondrak kaNNu dOriya..chennap patnAm pOriyA"nu oru
  pAttu irukku.
  
  
  
• From: meendum_ambi (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Fri Feb 13 08:19:41 EST 1998
  
  kulEbagAvali has one arthamatRa vArthaigaL song ????
  
  
• From: uLaral_ambi (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Fri Feb 13 08:30:58 EST 1998
  
  IRku oru Nonsense song:
  
  jingaLa jinga jee boom baa jingaLa jingA..
  
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tf06.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Feb 13 09:55:26 EST 1998
  
  Ambi Bones:
  AN kaviyai vella vandha pAttai En nonsense pAttunnu solreenga? enakkup puriyavillai--adiyEnukku viLakkavum.
  
  RV:
  I know the entire "lyrics" to pEttai rap from kAdhalan. I'm still trying to decode it.
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tf06.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Feb 13 10:29:18 EST 1998
  
  Bones, read specific lines from AN kaviyai you've mentioned. Thank you.
  
  
• From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Fri Feb 13 12:24:28 EST 1998
  
  Yeimpa Bonekavi,
  "Aankaviyai Vellavantha Pennkaviyey Varuga"(Kanchana, Naanum Ungalai Koopidalai!) paattil( poatti song ), Orutharai Oruthar Keilvi Poattu Bhathil Sollumbothu, Paattukkaana timelimit mudiyappoaguthunnu therinju, gappunnu, Vijayakumari(P.Susheela),
  "Thaathu Thoothu Theethu, Aana Thathai Sollaathu; Thoathu Thoothu ......( innum ennennamo varum, naalaikku keittukkunnu vanthu eyuthurein! )" appadinnu eduthu vuttu, Namma SSRai( TMS ) Jagaa vaangavappaanga. SSR, "Yennappa Ithu, Paatta Paaduraanga, Yetho Ularuraangaley, Non-Sense?" appadinnu solvaar. Athoda unga cassette mudinjirucha? Atharkkappuram, Vijakumari( PS ) gives the meaning( BS ) of those lines( which once again illustrates Kannadasan's greatness ). So, athu onnum Non-Sensical song illappa! ( Hee hee, I know chumma thamaashukku Intha Paattai Ezhuthuneenga enru ).
  
  RV, there are quite a few songs with "Non-Sensical" terms used. RV, RV going to start listing these songs and try to make sense out of these "Non-Sensical" phrases/lines?
  
  Good Luck!
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tf05.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Feb 13 12:38:25 EST 1998
  
  Amar Saar:
  AN kaviyai pAttu endha padam? Adipperukku? namma Bones kiNdalukkuththAn appadi ezhudhiyiruppAr--arththam nALai solluvar endRu nambugirEn.
  
  
• From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com) on: Fri Feb 13 14:32:19 EST 1998
  
  Bones:
  Not just "Aattukkutti Muttaiyittu", all nonsense songs should make sense in the context of the movie! Otherwise why would it be there anyway ? ;-)
  
  
  Explanations for some of the songs mentioned here - Enakkuth therinda varai ;-)
  
  
  Kuluvalile:
  Rajini Kuluvalil appandindra oorukku poi ange Meenavukku muttham koduppar.
  
  Mukkala Mukabla:
  Hindiyil idarkku porul - "Sandaiyil mugam karuppagiyadhu" thats the literal translation. Idiomatically, it means that the opponents lost the fight. The hero is telling the heroine "The opponents to our love hv lost this round" - in Hindi. God knows why.
  
  
  Most of the songs I know, I can think of, mentioned here, hv nonsense words for a line or max 2.
  
  e.g. Jollylo Gymkhana
  Jollilo Tumkhana
  
  or Jingala Jinga Jee Bhoomba Jingala Jinga
  
  or Dingiri Dingale Meenatchi Dingiri Dingale
  
  
  Basically the nonsense words are used as a space filler or as a humming device. I guess either the lyricist is incompetent or the MD insisted on hummable beat in words.
  
  Eena Meena Deeka, the song I mentioned in my first posting, is a different kind. For those of you who hvnt heard that one, I am writing the pallavi here.
  
  Eena Meena Deeka
  Dai Damaneeka
  Maka Naka Poka
  Reela Peeka Reeka
  
  There is a perceptible pause at each line end so that the listeners understand that each one is a line.
  
  This is followed by the four lines sang without any pause. Like this.
  
  Eena Meena Deeka Dai Dama Neeka Maka Naka Poka Reela Peeka Reeka
  
  The effect is brilliant. If you guys hvnt heard this song, try to get it and listen to it.
  
  The charanams make sense. But the highlight of the song is the nonsense portion.
  
  I cant think of a deliberate attempt to use nonsense words so creatively in TFM. Kids are bound to love this kind of songs.
  
  
  
  
• From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com) on: Fri Feb 13 14:55:53 EST 1998
  
  Kanchana:
  
  Antha Paattu is from "Saratha" and the song is a great one. When PS sings those shorthand lines and then gives meaning, the lines would make so much sense.
  I will the whole song, later!
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Mon Feb 16 01:59:43 EST 1998
  
  RV - You have not been doing your homework! :-)))
  
  This topic has been discussed before, with almost the same title and it is in the archives. Adiyeinthaan aarambiththu vaithein! You may want to check it out, as there have been some interesting (not to mention, cheeky!) discussions there.
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust108.max2.santa-clara.ca.ms.uu.net) on: Mon Feb 16 15:09:19 EST 1998
  
  Nov:
  
  Sonnadhudhan sonneenga, title-um solli irukkak koodadha ? ;-)
  
  
  
• From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Mon Feb 16 15:27:07 EST 1998
  
  How about 'koondhal karuppu, aaha! kumkumam sivappu, O ho! from some MGR movie.
  
  Cho has done a nice parody work in AnnapooraNi (Ippadi namakku theriyadha pala vizhayangalai cinema namakku kaththu koduththirukku)
  
  
• From: RV (@ 1cust108.max2.santa-clara.ca.ms.uu.net) on: Mon Feb 16 15:35:14 EST 1998
  
  Nov:
  
  Ada amaanga, oru thread irukku. Eppadi miss panninennu theriyalai. ;-)
  
  Nice thread too. Can someone post a link to that thread here ? I dont know how to do it.
  
  
• From: zoo_zoo (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Wed Feb 18 04:01:05 EST 1998
  
  Kanchana, Amar:
  
  Few months back I watched Saradha - after the "achachchO" lines, I rewound the cassatte
  and tried listening again - but it didn't make
  anysense to me. Looked like a cheap trick by Devika to win SSR.
  
  Atleaset if she had used the "loL loL" instead of
  "chachu puchu" our hero would have realized that
  it is something todo with dog and pathilikku kuRaithiruppAr!!!
  
  penkavi EmAthitAnga.
  
  enakku puriyAtha innoru vishayam: makkaL pEsum mozithAn nAtukku nAdu differentA irukku, but why
  animals ezuppum saththamum differentA irukku ???
  
  numoor nAi - loL loL
  American nAi - bov bov
  
  numoor sEval - kokarakO
  US sEval - cok-a-doodle-do
  
  evlO contrastA irukku (atleast 'meav' is same)
  I wonder how these sounds are reprsented in middle east, china and africa!!!!
  
  
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ wmu-52-160.tm.net.my) on: Wed Feb 18 06:56:22 EST 1998
  
  Kanchana
  Aan Kaviyai Vella vantha Pen Kaviye Varuga is from Vaanambadi where the MD is KVM. The song is picturised on SSR and Devika. In the same film there is another by P.Suseela:
  
  Thookanang Kurvikkoodu
  Thoonga Kandaal Marathley
  Summa Pona Machanukku Enna Nenaippu Mansuley.
  (yarukkavauthu Purigiratha?)
  
  Tamilvanan, the so called master of all subjects, (in the Kalkandu issue of 22-10-1964) proved that anyone can become a cine poet based on such songs. He even composed some in his book called "Artham Illatha Cinema Paatukkal"
  Let me quote a few(SONG TITLES BY ME):-
  
  1.VAZHKAI OPPANTHAM
  Vazhkai Enbathu Main Roadu-Namma
  Vaganam Povathu High Speedu-Ethirey
  Vanthuvitta Loriyil Mothinaal-Viraivil
  Selvom Sudukaadu!
  
  2. KUDUMBAM ORU KATHAMBAM
  Anbu Enbathu Oru Kaadu
  Arivu Enbathu Thani Medu
  Pasam Enbathu Vellamada
  Patruthal Enbathu Pallamada
  Manaivi Enbaval Thollaiyada
  Matroru Thollai Pillaiyada
  Machinan Irunthal Sarippaduma
  Manaivi Uravu uruppaduma?
  
  3.THEIVEEGA URAVU
  AAN=Chinnamma-Unnodu Naan "Beach"uley
  Sirithukkondey Nee Pesina Pechiley
  Mukkaley Iluthuvitta Moochiley
  Muzhuvathumey purinthen Kan Veechiley
  PENN=Kannala-Unnoda "Road"ley
  Kanakkillatha Kathai Sonnen Paattiley
  Thottupparu Nenjam Irukku "Heat"ley-Vaa
  Taxi Pudichi Utkaruvom "Seat"ley
  AAN=Vandu Vanthu Un Mandaiyai Suthuthu-Unnai
  Kanduvittu Karunguyilum Kathuthu
  Kadarkarayil Powrnami Nilavu-Kayil
  Kondu Poyi Thinbom Naam Pulavu
  PENN= Thottu Thottu Pesathey Athaney!-Summa
  Kazhandru, Kazhandru Poguthu Sattai Bothaney!
  Unakku Naannu Piramma Ezhuthivachaney!-Summa
  Urangivizhathey Aasai Machaney.
  
  
  4.ABALAI ANJUGAM
  Vaazhnthuvitteney-Indru
  Veezhnthu Ketteney
  Aazhkadalil Naan Oru Marakkalamey
  Aasai Athaan Kadalil Vaazhum Thimingalamey
  Pethai Enakku Thunbam Tharalama?
  Pirasava Vethanai Neeyum Tharalamaa?
  Abalai Naanum Thaniyaginen
  Anil Vaayil Oru Kaniyaginen
  
  5.THALATTU KETKUTHAMMA
  
  ...Aariro anbey aararo..
  Aasai Kalanjiyamey
  Anbu Pettagamey
  Avarangkaadu Thantha Azhagana Ottagamey
  Thangak Kattiyey
  Thayir Vaikkum Sattiyey
  Vairak Kattiyey
  Watch Vaikkira Pettiyey
  Aaratha Thuyar Iruliley
  Ariken Poley Vanthai-aariro anbey aaraaro
  
  Kanchana,
  compared to songs of these days Tamilvanan's contribution to the development of Tamil Poems is indeed great. Any chances of posthumously conferring the title of Paavalar Thilakam on him?
  
  RV
  Ina Mina Dika is also sung by P.Suseela and TMS separatley in Athisaya Penn-the MD is SM Subbiah Naidu. This is TMS version:
  Ina Mina Dikka-Jey Jama Neeka
  Maka Naka Naka-Seeka Peeka Reeka
  Ina Mina Rika Dika Jey Jey Jamanika
  Maka Naga Maga Naga Seeka Peeka Rola Riga
  Sonnaley Santhosham!
  
  Anna Nadai-nadanthu Varum Thangam
  Athisaya Penn Ithuppol Illai Engum
  Sonna Sollai Thattathu
  Soru Thanni Kekkathu
  Kannadi Mun Nikkathu
  kadait Theruvai Chuthathu
  ahaha Ohoho Ho..(Ina Min)
  
  Pudavai Nagai Porulum Ketka Maattal
  Purushanaiyum Sandaikku Izhukka Maattaal
  aathiramey Kondu Naathiyai Thitta Maata
  Appavi Mamiyarai Aatti Vaikka Maattal
  Aahaha Ehehey ..Ohoho Ho..(ina Mina)
  
  Kanavanaiyey Than Deivam Ennum Mangai
  Karpu Nagai Anival Intha Nangai
  Karpanayum Illai Soppanamum Illai
  Ippadiyor Pennai Engum Kandathillai
  Aanalum Onnum Illai
  aanalum Onnum Illai-Enna?
  Pechilley Moochilley
  Uyir Illey.Hey...
  (Purigiratha? Lyrics by V.Seetharaman)
  
  
  
• From: RV (@ nat-20.avanticorp.com) on: Wed Feb 18 12:33:41 EST 1998
  
  Manisekaran,
  
  Tamizh Vaanan Vairamuthu kavidaigalai espy. Kannukku Mai Azhagu madiri paattukkalai ketkaamale poittare! Avar engeyo poyittaarunga. Padicchu vizhundhu vizhundhu siritthen.
  
  
  Eena Meena Deeka Thamizleyum vandhirukkaa ? Eppadi popular aagamap pocchu ? Nambave mudiyaliye ?
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-th04.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Feb 18 13:27:16 EST 1998
  
  Bones:
  Saradha padam pArththu nAn arththam ennannu ungaLukku solrEn. peNkavi andhap padaththil EmAththinadhA avasarappattu sollAdheenga . kiNdalA?! :-)
  (enna dhideernu agila ulaga uyirina mozhi ArAivukkup pOitteenga?)
  
  Manisekaran:
  sariyAna siripputh thoguppu! neenga solra mAdhiri thamizhvANanukku "pAvalar thilakam" pattam dhArALamA kodukkalAm.
  
  BTW, the concept of "veLLam--paLLam", "thottuppAru nenjam irukku heat-lae", "kaNduvittu karunguyilum kaththudhu" and more from the selection you've cited have been used in some late 90s songs. Now we know the source for such inspirations! :-)
  
  
• From: faizal (@ 203.116.186.39) on: Sun Feb 14 06:32:55 EST 1999
  
  wasted this system
  
  

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