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Topic started by Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on Sun Aug 17 23:54:13 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

Responses:

From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Aug 18 00:26:02 EDT 1997

I was reading Kalki dated 17th Aug 97, and found an
interview with IR there. Since there are so many IR
fans in this forum, I thought of posting this here.
Since many of you may not have access to Kalki, let
me put selected pieces (that too, in parts, as I
get time to type).

Part 1 ...

Kalki: ungaL naalu kaal paaychchalai endha padaththil
kaiyaaNdirukkireergaL?

IR: idhuvaraikkum naan appadiyellaam paayavillai!
idhuvaraikkum naan seydhiruppadhellaam verum
appaLamum oorugaayumdhaan.

Kalki: neengaL arusuvai uNavaiyE parumaarugireergaL
endruthaan naangaL uNargiROm.

IR: verum appaLam oorugaaikkE ippadi solgireergaL
endraal, naan arusuvai uNavai nijamaagavE
parimaarinaal neengaL enna aaveergaL? (sirippu).
appadiyellaam parimaarugira sandharppam enakku
innum varavillai.

Kalki: enna ippadi solgireergaL?

IR: Cinema enbadhu oruvidha formula-vaaga pazhagippOna
vishayam. idharkuththaan makkaL thalai aattuvaargaL.
ennidam koNduvarap padugindra paaththiram
kaaliyaaga irundhaalthaanE naan adhil Ethaavadhu pOda mudiyum?
neengaL koNdu varugira pOthE andha paaththiraththil
ethaiyaavadhu pOttu nirappiththaan koNdu
varugireergaL. adharkku mElum adhil naan
enna pOda mudiyum? ellaa Cinema-vilum love
song varugiradhu; kiNdal seygira paadalum
varugiradhu. idhil yaar enna pudhumai
seydhuvida mudiyumendru karudhugireergaL?

... etc. about movies

Kalki: endha padaththilaavadhu ungaLukku migavum
Emaatramaay irundhadhu endru solla mudiyumaa?

IR: aaramba kaalangaLil eththanai eththanaiyO ...

Kalki: ippOthu?

IR: ippOdhu pazhagip pOy vittadhu! (sirippu)

Kalki: Emaatram pazhakip pOy vittadhaa alladhu
Emaatram illaamal seyvadhu pazhagip pOy vittadhaa?

IR: Ematram pazhagip pOy vittadhu! (sirippu)

... more talk about film songs, songs without good
taste, famous directors going away from him etc.

Kalki: How to Name It, Nothing but wind endru 2
albums koduththeergaL. appuram En kodukkavillai?

IR: adharkkaaga nEram odhukka mudiyaathathuthaan
kaaraNam.

Kalki: How to name it-il "I met Bach in my house"
paadalil oruvar veetukkuL varugira maathiriyum avarai
katti thazhuvi varaverkira maathiriyum kaatchi
roobamaana oru vishayaththai isiyin moolamaagavE
kaNmun koNdu vandhirukkireergaL. adhai eppadi
seydheergaL?

IR: adhu original composition of Bach. adhil varugira
Indian melody mattumdhaan ennudaya composition.
adhil oLindhirukkak koodiya raagangaLai
mattumdhaan naan veLiyE koNdu vandhEn. andha
raagangaLukku andha vadivangaL irukkiradhenbadhu mErkkaththiyargaLukku
theriyaadhu. mErkaththiya isaiyil uLLa raagangaLai
enakku therindha varai veLiyE koNdu vandhirukkiREn.
16-m nootraaNdil Bach adhai uruvaakkiyapOdhE
irundhadhuthaan adhu. inninna idaththil inninna
raagangaL irukkindrana enbadhi adkkOttittu kaattiya
paNithaan ennudaiyadhu.

Part 2 later...
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Aug 18 03:12:09 EDT 1997

Part 2:

Kalki: ungaLudaya paadalgaLai silar veLippadaiyaaga
copy adikkum pOdhu ungaLudaya uNarvu eppadi irukkum?

IR: illaathavargaL eduththuk koLgiraargaL; adhu
patri enna irukkiradhu? (sirippu)

Kalki: ungaLukku endru viruppamaana raagangaL Edhum
uNdaa? edhan meedhaavadhu ungaLukku atheetha layippu uNdaa?

IR: appadiyellaam edhuvum illai. ellaamE music music
music. adhil eppadi piriththup paarkka mudiyum?

Kalki: isai enbadhu oru inimaiyaana vishayamdhaan.
aanaal oru samayaththil ungaLudaya isai, paadal
varigaLai, vaarththaigaLai kEtka mudiyaamal dominate
seydhadhaaga oru sarchchai ezhundhadhu. adhu uNmaiyum kooda ...

IR: endha paadal endru sollungaLEn...

Kalki: niraya paadalgaL isaithaan kEtkumE thavira,
vaarththai puriyaathu.

IR: puriyaathathai neengaL En kEtkireergaL? andha
vaarththaigaL puriyak koodaathu - avvaLavu mattamaaga
ezhuthi irukkiraargaL enbadharkkaagak kooda appadi
seydhirukkalaam illayaa? (sirippu)

Kalki: adhu pOndra kavinjargaLai neengaL En ookkuvikka
vENdum?

IR: EdhO kaalam!

... IR explains why he still agreed to put music
for such songs.

Kalki: sari, meendum ungaL albuthukku varuvOm. Yaani, M.Jackson aagiyOrudaya albungaLai kEtkum
pOdhum ungaLudayathai kEtkum pOdhum paamara rasigargaLaana
engaLukku endha vidhamaana vidhyaasamum theriyavillai. adhaavadhu isaiyin
tharaththai solgirOm. aanaalum avargaLudaya
album popular aana aLavukku isaiyil endha vidhaththilum tharam kurayaatha
ungaLudaya albungaL popular aagaathatharkku
enna kaaraNam? ulagath tharam endru Edhaavadhu
irukkindrathaa enna?

IR: adhu veLippadugiRa idaththaip poRuththu irukkiRathu.
indhiyaavil veLippadugiRa pOdhu appadi irukkiRathu.

Kalki: edhanaal appadi?

IR: ulagath tharam endru paarkkira pOthu, mudhalil
recording tharaththaiththaan paarkkiraargaL. appadi paarththaal indha 2 albumumE
andha tharaththukku keezhEdhaan. niraya thavaru irukkiradhu.

Kalki: neengaL kurippidugira indha technical-aana thavaru
engaLukku theriyavillayE!

IR: indha technical-aana thavarugaL illaamal
naan kodukkira pOdhu andha isai innum eppadi irukkum endru
ninaiththup paarungaL! ivvaLavu kuraigaL uLLa
ondraiyE iththanai niraivaaga irukkiradhendru
neengaL pEsugireergaL endraal, innum fine-sound-il
koduththaal eppadi uNarveergaL! ithilellaam avargaL romba thErchchi petravargaL. 24 maNi
nEraththil avargaL 12 maNi nEram saadhagam
seygiraargaL. appadi saadhagam seybavargaL oru
sadjamam seydhaalE pOdhum; kEttuk koNdE irukkalaam.
ingu appadiyillai. Learning-ai vida earning
adhigamaagi vittadhu. Carnatic sangeedhaththil kooda
10 keerththanaigaLai katruk koNdadhumE kachchEri seyyaththaan
aasaip padugiraargaL. mElum mElum katruk koLvadhu kuraindhu
pOgiradhu. ippadippatta soozhnilaiyil eppadi
naam avargaL tharaththukkup pOga mudiyum?

Kalki: neengaL isaiyai ezhuthugireergaL endru
solgiraargaL. adhu eppadi?

IR: manadhil kEtpadhai appadiyE ezhuthugiren.

Kalki: adharkku EdhEnum thanip payirchi eduththuk
koNdeergaLaa?

IR: isai, isai, isai endru paiththiyaaagavE aaga
vENdum. (sirippu!)

Kalki: oru Senior endra muraiyil ARR iaiamaippu
eppadi endru sollungaLEn.

IR: nandraaga seygiraar. naanum ungaLaip pOl
isaikku rasigan thaanE!

Kalki: ungaL magan Karthik Raja?

IR: avanum nandraagavE seygiraan.

Part 3 will come ...
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Aug 18 03:41:37 EDT 1997

Part 3:

After saying "iraivanukku aduththa nilaiyil iruppadhu isaidhaan" ...

Kalki: ungaLukku pidiththa isai amaippaaLar yaar?

IR: vada indhiyaavil enakku pidiththavargaL ...
SriRamachandra, Naushad, S.D.Burman, MadanMohan.
ivargaLellaam Cinema-vukkaaga thangaLai sEthap
paduththik koLLaadhavargaL. Anarkali padaththirkku isai amaikka Naushad-ai
aNuginaargaL. Thamakku 1 latcha roobaay thara vENdum
endraar. appOdhu athu periya thogai. Sari endraargaL.
andhap padaththukku isai amaikka thamakku 2 aaNdugaL
aagum endraar. aththanai kaalam thangaLaal
kaaththirukka mudiyaadhu enbadhaal, avar
tharaththukku isai amaikkak koodiya innoruvarai
avarE sibaarisu seyya vENdum endraargaL. avar
SriRamachandra-vai sibaarisu seydhaar. avarai
aNugiya pOdhu, "naan orE maadhaththil isai amaiththu
tharugiren. aanaal Naushad-ukku 1 latcha roobaai
tharuvadhaaga oppuk koNdadhaal enakku 1.5 latcha
roobaai thara vENdum" endraaraam. athanpadiyE
thandhaargaL. padam vandhadhu. aththanai paadalgaLum super hits. (Zindagi ... endru
thodangum Anarkali padap paadalai paadik kaaNbikkiraar.)

Roshan oru padaththukku isai amaikkum pOdhu,
paadalil oru kELviyai vaippaar. MadanMohan thamadhu padaththukku
iasi amaikkum pOdhu, thamadhu paadalil, munnavar
vaiththa kELvikku badhil solluvaar! munnavar
irandha pOdhu, pinnavar vandhu, "ini yaarukku
naan badhil solluvEn?" endru azhthaar.
Isai amaippaaLargaL endraal appadiyallaavaa
irukka vENdum ...

Kalki: ungaLukku isai thavira Photography-ilum
aarvam uNdu endru kELvip padugiROm...

IR: aamaam. kOvilgaLukku sellum pOdhu Camera-vaiyum
eduththuk koNdu pOvEn. (thaam eduththa padangaLai
koNdu vandhu kaattugiraar. aththanaiyum kOvilgaL,
iyarkaik kaatchigaL endru sirappaana padangaL.)

Kalki: ella padangaLum sirappaaga irukkindrana.

IR: indraikku miga arumaiyaana Camera-kkaL
vandhuvittana. en pangu migak kuraivudhaan.

Kalki: Camera padamthaan edukkum. aanaal neengaLO
ovvoru padaththaiyum isai pOlavE sirappaaga
compose seydhu eduththirukkireergaL. Pirasuraththukku
sila padangaLai thara mudiyumaa?

IR: indha padangaLaik koNdu oru pugaip pada
kaNkaatchi nadaththuvadharkkaana ErpaadugaL
nadandhu koNdirukkindrana. adhu mudindhadhum
tharugindrEn.

---------------MUTRUM-------------------------
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Mon Aug 18 05:47:40 EDT 1997

He has everything for the making of a genius. I especially loved this part:
Kalki: oru Senior endra muraiyil ARR isaiamaippu
eppadi endru sollungaLEn.
IR: nandraaga seygiraar. naanum ungaLaip pOl isaikku rasigan thaanE!
It must have been really difficult for him to say this, but has accepted the fact that the show must go on!!
If only he could continue to give us music like in the 80s...
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Mon Aug 18 09:24:55 EDT 1997

Thanks a lot Sathiya Keerthi
From: Kanchana (@ ww-ty03.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Aug 18 09:43:28 EDT 1997

Sathya Keerthi:
Thank you for sharing that very good interview with us!
From: Gopi Santhanam (@ neesgate.neesnet.com) on: Mon Aug 18 10:53:05 EDT 1997

Sathya Keerthi . Thanks a lot for
sharing info
From: Pagalavan (@ mb.cisco.com) on: Mon Aug 18 14:14:41 EDT 1997

Sathya Keerthi:

Maestro-vin interview aRpudham. His comment about
his own contribution shows his "thannadakkam".
His comment about ARR shows his "perunthanmai".

Thanks a lot for typing it for us.
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Aug 19 05:02:59 EDT 1997

Sorry, forgot to say thanks to Sathya!

Romba-romba nandri-saar!
From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Tue Aug 19 11:24:47 EDT 1997

To porumaiyin siagaram Sathiya Keerthi,

Thank you for the transliterated version of the interview.
From: Sathiyamurthy (@ 152.148.41.167) on: Tue Aug 19 12:59:45 EDT 1997

Thanx Sathiya Keerthi
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Tue Aug 19 13:04:27 EDT 1997

To SK AvargaL:
Neengal niraya IR updates kodukkeergal! Mikka nandri. En pondra IR rasigargalukku avarai patriya History ezhudhuvadharkku indha articles ellam migavum udhiviya irukkum.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Tue Aug 19 20:38:27 EDT 1997

To: cp

Kumudham (Aug 7) issue-vil 50 kutti-kutti kELvigaL
and IsaiGnani's badhilgaL paaththeengaLaa?
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Aug 20 01:35:55 EDT 1997

sathyamurthy ayyaa

Kumudam sariyaagavE update seyvathillai. thayavu seythu neengaL TFMil pOdungaL
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Aug 20 02:31:42 EDT 1997

To: Aravind (or IR-wind?)

Idhuvaraikkum "alias" illaadha enakku "Sathyamurthy"
endru "alias" neenga koduththirukkeenga;
magizhchchiyOdu EththukkiREn. Aanaal, idhE
forum-il Sathyamurthy endra oruththar pangERkkiraar.
Enna seyvadhu?

Mukkiyamaana sila kELvi+IR's badhilgaL:

Q: UngaL tune-ai pirar ultaa seydhu vandha paadalai
kEtkumpOdhu enna ninaippeergaL?

IR: AyyO paavam (naanaa? copy adiththavargaLaa?)

Q: Karthik Raja, Yuvan Shankar Raja: yaar sutti?

IR: Yuvan sutti endraal - Karthik getti.

Q: ungaLai kavarndha paadagar yaar?

IR: Rafi, Jesudhoss, Balu endraalum "Rafi" Rafithaan.

Q: UngaL abimaana isai amaippaaLar yaar? En?

IR: C.Ramachandra, Naushad, S.D.Burman, Madan
Mohan, Roshan, Subburaaman, Ramanathan,
S.N.Venkatraman, M.S.V - avargaL avargaLaaga iruppadhaal!

Q: pidiththa ponmozhi?

IR: "theedhum nandrum pirar thara vaaraa"
idhu matravargaLukku ponmozhiyalla, enakku.

Q: Isai amaippadhu thavira vERu enna theriyum?

IR: enakku isai amaikkath theriyum endru yaar
sonnadhu? -- vERu edhuvum theriyaadhu.

Q: vaazhkkai endraal eppadi irukka vENdum?

IR: vaazhndhirukkiROm endru theriyaamal pOyvida
vENdum.

Q: sila maNi nEraththil aayuL mudiyap pOgirathu
endraal enna seyveergaL?

IR: sila maNiyaa? aduththa nodiyilum adhu nadakkalaam endra
eNNaththudanthaan irukka muyarchi seygiREn.

Q: malivaana kavidhaikku amOgamaaga varavERppu
iruppadhEn?

IR: andha varavERppu ellOraalum kodukkap paduvadhalla;
malivaana manangaLai - malivaana vishayangaL
kavarum.

Q: indraya paadal aasiriyargaLil thiramaiyaanavar
endru neengaL karudhubavar?

IR: Pazhani Bharathi, Arivumathi

Q: neengaL yaaraik kaNdu indrum bayap paduveergaL?

IR: ennaik kaNduthaan.

Q: neengaL virumbi tharpOthu muNumuNukkum cinema
paadal?

IR: Karthik oru Hindi paadal pOttirukkiRaan.
Adhai marakkavE mudiyavillai. AdEyappaa!

Q: nadigargaLil isai gnanam uLLavar endru yaarai
solluveergaL?

IR: Kamalhasan

Q: neengaL isai amaippaaLar aagaamal irundhaal?

IR: copy adippavargaL - illaathu pOyiruppaargaLaa enna?

Q:K'dhasan, Vaali, Vairamuthu, GAmaran, PazhaniBharathi
ivargaLil karpanai vaLam, sol vaLam, eLiya nadai
koNdavargaL yaar?

IR: ellOrumEthaan. Karpanai vaLam illai enil
vaarththai varaathu. eLiya nadai illai enil
puriyaathu. ivargaLil yaaraavathu puriyaathathai ezhuthi
vittaargaLaa allathu karpanai illaamal ezhuthugiraargaLaa?

Q: indraya isai amaippaaLargaLukku ungaL advise?

IR: veLi naattil popular-aana oru paadalai yaar
mudhalil copy adippadhu endru pOtti pOdaatheergaL.

Q: thiramai, muyarchi, thannambikkai aagiyavai
irundhum adhirshtam illai endra orE kaaraNaththaal
oruvar vaazhkkaiyil uyarndha nilaiyai
adayaamal pOga vaayppu uNdaa?

IR: kaNdippaaga!

Q: endha paadalai adhiga risk eduththu amaiththeergaL?

IR: amaikkiravargaLukku idhellaam kaNakkil vandhaal,
oru pullum prayOjanamillai.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Wed Aug 20 16:20:57 EDT 1997

To SathyaKeerthi:
kadaisi Questionukku IR badhil koduthiruppadhu puriyavillaiyE? enna sollavarugiraar IR?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Aug 20 21:07:01 EDT 1997

To: cp

enakkum kuzhappam irundhadhu. "kaNakkil vandhaal"
endru sollugiraar, not "kaNakku vaiththaal". So I
think he means: If a music director starts thinking
about factors such as "risk", that's not going
to be useful to him even a tiny-bit.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Aug 20 23:15:56 EDT 1997

Sathiya Keerthi

Sorry to the power of infinity. IR patriya vishayam endrathum uNarchivasappattu, theriyaamal, ungaL peyarai maatri ezhuthivittEn. mannikkavum. Big thanks for the stuff.

BTW, neengaL enakku soottiya naamakaraNam (IR-wind) nanRaagavE irukkiRathu.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Thu Aug 21 12:30:32 EDT 1997

To SK:
Thanks for the reply. IR really gives very intelligent replies. Ondru mattum puriyavillai. Avar Eppozhudhum rasigargalidam "ungalukku Oorugai appalam dhaan kodithirukkirEN" endru kadhai sutrugiraar. After giving so much to tamil film music, he is not satisified with it and says he still has so much in store.. I am really wondering how much he has in in mandai.
Avar TFMilirindhu kandippaga vilagavE mattar. I feel that he will make it to the top again -- endru oru patchi enakku solgiradhu!
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Aug 21 20:45:17 EDT 1997

cp:

I think what he means by "oorugaai, appaLam etc.."
is that our film directors haven't challenged him
with new and interesting situations and extracted
the best out of him. If directors like Sridhar
(of his younger days) were there who were never
easily satisfied, then "arusuvai uNavu" would
have come.
From: IR-fan (@ hexlabpc.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu) on: Thu Aug 21 23:13:37 EDT 1997

To cp:

i also think that he will reach top again
after people fed up with ARR's tunes. Idhu
seekiramaagave nadakkum polikkirathu.
From: Shashi (@ 137.197.35.41) on: Fri Aug 22 00:51:36 EDT 1997

To Sathiya Keerthi

Namma oor style'la solaNumna, ' Ah many tanks baa. Raja Sir touch'i teenga.
From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Fri Aug 22 07:40:18 EDT 1997

TO S.K

But in the recent past no director dared to tell IR that he was not satisfied. That could be the reason why IR was dishing out 'oorugai' and 'appalam'
From: Kanchana (@ ww-tk02.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Aug 22 10:29:10 EDT 1997

Ravy:
Listening to most of the recent songs, does any director dare to tell any MD (not just IR) anything? Or for that matter, the lyricists? Judging by the vocals, lyrics and pronunciations, I think not.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Aug 22 20:45:34 EDT 1997

Ravy:

neenga solvadhu sariyaaththaan paduthu; but, Directors
ippadi En bayappadaNum? Enna reason? For
the best talents to surface, I think there
has to be a close personal tie between 3
persons: the MD, the Lyricist, and the Director;
of course the 3 have to be talented also.
For instance, in those days, MSV/TKR-K'dhasan-BhimSingh
had this ideal combination. If you
take IR as the MD, currently are there (or will
there be) such a combination?
From: guru (@ 192.131.251.62) on: Fri Aug 22 22:58:07 EDT 1997

Or maybe IR is just saying that now he is just like the urigai and appalam which lie at the side of each dish while the main course is being served...ARR! Just a thought....
From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Sat Aug 23 00:30:33 EDT 1997

Yet another view:
Being a humble man, IR says he is just giving oorukaai and appalam - in other words his contributions are minimal or insignificant. But no one should take his statement seriously!
From: Ravy (@ ww-tk02.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Aug 23 08:34:08 EDT 1997

To S.K & Kanchana:

I just got a back-dated issue of AV (16-2-97) in which there is uraiyadal between Madhan and Mani Ratnam on Iruvar (I got only the 2nd part). They mostly talk about the censor problems, cast selection etc. But they touched upon music also. Here is my attempt on the transliteration;

Madhan: Music pattri sollungalEn....

MR: Naan, ARR, VairaMuthu - moovarum mudhalilaE utkarndhu, indha padaththin isaikkana strategy-ith thelivaga mudivu seidhu kondom. 1940-m varudak kalaththu cinema padalin style-l oru padal, 1950 style-l ondru, 1960-l, 1970-l, endru oru decade-kku oru paattu represent seigira madhiri vaiththuk kondom. Andhandhak kala kattathil ubayogappaduththappatta isaikkaruvigaLaip payanpaduththalam allathu tune-gaLai andhak kalathu style-l vaithuk koLLalam. Illaiynedral padalin varthaigaLai andhak kala style-l amaithuk koLLalam. Indha representation-i makkaL lEsaga uNarndhu kondal podhumandhu endru seidhom. padal katchigaLaip parkumpodhukooda, konjam ninaiththirundhal, andhandha kalakattathil vandha padangalaip paarkira uNarvaiyEkooda achchaga Erpadhuthi irukka mudiyum. Anal indraiya Audience-i uttkara vaikka vendumanal, andha alavukkup povadhu sariyaga irukkadhu endrudhan kalaththin sayal mattum theriyumbadi padal katchigaLai eduththom.
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In an old thread, I had complained about the Narumugaiyae was sung (not in the 1940's style). After reading this I realized why it was like that. (only the lyrics in that style - VM conveninently lifted it from aga400).

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MR also talks about his contemplation of dream project (along with Kamal) - Ponniyin selvan.
From: Kanchana (@ ww-td61.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Aug 23 11:15:43 EDT 1997

Ravy:

Thank you for sharing the interview which talks about MR-ARR-VM team effort in terms of picturization/music/lyrics for Iruvar. It's good to know that some directors are still talking to their MD's and lyricists, BUT.........

Ivvalavum patri paesi vittu, kavidhai ucharippai patri paesaamal poi vittangalae! "uLagukku" "narigal" "Vaalal" enru Arvind Swamyai vittu Thamizh mozhiyayae oru joke aakkina perumai MR'aiya saerum. (I'm an MR fan, but not in this aspect, he needs to exert more directorial power to make sure communication is right.)

MR's Ponniyin Selvan project ambitions are laudable, but if he is going to be negligent about the language while bringing a "Kaaviyam" like that to big screen, he might as well forget about it!

As Sathiya Keerthi said, it takes talented Director-MD-Lyricist to make a song great. Another critical factor which cannot be underestimated.......an ability of each to work as a real team member with each other. I remember SPB's television interview of all the MD's and how MSV was describing Sridhar's sending him back to the drawing board again and again for the song "Nenjam Marapadhillai". MSV was able to work with Sridhar, take his critiques and the associated frustrations, and ultimately deliver one of the most haunting songs (literally, also!) in TFM. Does this REAL team-work where the composite product comes before individual achievement happen today?
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Wed Aug 27 10:33:32 EDT 1997

Check this out :

http://kanian.com/Tamilnews/

IR's Kalki interview (in Tamil fonts).
News on ARR's Vande Mataram.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Wed Aug 27 11:25:23 EDT 1997

I do not think this is a digression. I would like to say this in some topic which was relevant. After taking a look at the new films IR is doing I can understand that many are not directed by not very popular men in TFM industry. Why is Raaja composing music for such films? When ARR is so choosy and gives music only for a few films why does IR compose excellent music for such films which do not even run for a week in the theatres. And because of this, his music is less and less recognised among people.
Generally in any industry when a person is at his peak, he leaves the scene when he is in the limelight to make his mark in people's minds. There is another case where a person is asked to get out of the scene, because of some factors like less popularity, money etc. I do not want that to happen to IR because he is a genius and that should never happen to such a talented man.
IMO, Raaja should get himself out of TFM and can contribute more to the unexplored areas of carnatic music which he says that he has lot to do. When his sons have come to compete with ARR he should also give them opportunities to establish themselves.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Wed Aug 27 11:28:15 EDT 1997

I do not think this is a digression. I would like to say this in some topic which was relevant. After taking a look at the new films IR is doing I can understand that many are directed by not very popular men in TFM industry. Why is Raaja composing music for such films? When ARR is so choosy and gives music only for a few films why does IR compose excellent music for such films which do not even run for a week in the theatres. And because of this, his music is less and less recognised among people.
Generally in any industry when a person is at his peak, he leaves the scene when he is in the limelight to make his mark in people's minds. There is another case where a person is asked to get out of the scene, because of some factors like less popularity, money etc. I do not want that to happen to IR because he is a genius and that should never happen to such a talented man.
IMO, Raaja should get himself out of TFM and can contribute more to the unexplored areas of carnatic music which he says that he has lot to do. When his sons have come to compete with ARR he should also give them opportunities to establish themselves.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Wed Aug 27 20:28:56 EDT 1997

Yesterday I was reading the Dheepavali-95 malar of
Kalaimagal and found an interview with IR. Except
for a "maraimugamaana thaakudhal" on Vairamuththu
there was little new. There was a question: which
particular song took you a lot of time to compose?
Can you all make a guess of which song he mentioned?
I will give his answer tomorrow.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Aug 27 23:45:56 EDT 1997

CP

The same question was asked sometime before to IR.

Q: ippOthu En nIngaL pirapalam aagaatha directorin padangaLukku isai amaikkirIrgaL?

A: maNirathnam, baarathi raajaav, RV uthayakumaar - avargaLukku isai amaikkum pOthu avargaL pirapalangkaL illai. intha aLavukku pirapalam aavaargaL enRu eNNi avargaLukku naan isai amaikkavillai. yaarukku theriyum, naan ippOthu isai amaikkum oru puthiya director naaLai periya aaL aagalaam allavaa?

Sathiya Keerthi

Saar, nIngka engkirunthu inthap puththagangkaLaith thOndi edukkarIngka? naanum Singaporele thaan irukkEn. en kaNNule pada maattEngkuthE?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Aug 28 02:40:02 EDT 1997

Aravind:

vaaraa vaaram Sani andru naan, en manaivi, matrum vaaNdugaLudan
Serangoon Anandha Bhavan sendru "Maharaja Dhosai"
saappittuvittu varum pazhakkam. Pona vaaram
pOnapOdhu, andha Hotel-in veliye, "edhai eduththaalum
arai veLLi mattum" endru puththagangalai kuviththu
vitruk koNdirundhaargal. Oru 15 puththagangalai
vaarikkondu vandhen. Avatril thenpattavatrai
ingu ezhuthinen, ambuttudhaan!

Adhu sari IR-ukku kEtkappatta kELvikku enna badhil
solliyiruppaar endru neengal sollalayE?
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Thu Aug 28 04:49:59 EDT 1997

Intha kashtamaana paattu kelvikku general-aa IR oru thathuvathai eduthu
viduvaar.

Appadiye oru paattai solli irunthaa:
paadariyen padippariyen paattai
solli irukkalaam. KB oru interview-la
IR-ai kashtapaduthiyathaaga sonnaar.
This is only my guess.

Sathiya keerthi,
at least 5-6 guesses varra varaikkum wait
pannittu answer sollunga.. Appo thaan oru
thrill irukkum... :-)
From: Shashi (@ 137.197.35.41) on: Thu Aug 28 11:26:28 EDT 1997

I am going to guess 2 songs:

1. Sangeethame en sonthame... in rasikapriya raga; movie is koyil pura.
IMO this raga is a killer to handle. The notes of this raga S R3 G3 M2 P D3 N3 S. If anybody tries to play these notes by themselves it sounds strange since we are not used to hearing songs with all notes being their max allowed tone( R3/G3/M2/D3/N3).
For those who are interested an interesting phenomenon occurs when you play these notes on the Keyboard. Our minds try to automatically shift the N3 to S, i.e., the Ni that is below the Sa now becomes the Sa. This is called grahabedham. So if you equate N3=S then the raga rasikapriya can be revised to S R1 G3 M1 P D1 N3 S. Amazing isn't it!! Can you guess what raga this is?
If you guessed Mayamalawagowlai you're right. Since this is the first raga we learn in carnatic music, our mind generally speaking recognises the progression of its notes easily. Hence, it tries to convert the Ni to S when you try to play it on the keyboard. However, if you had a Tambura or some kind of Sruti which gives you the Sa/S in the background your mind will recognise this as Rasikapriya.

2nd guess: Kalaivaniye... in sindhubhairavi. This is because Raja has composed the song only in Aarohanam. Personally, although it may be difficult to do it does not make it sound any better. Overall, this is a reasonably good song and a good attempt at trying something innovative.

Hope these guess give the necessary thrill Sathiya Keerthi.
From: Kanchana (@ ww-td63.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Aug 28 12:16:45 EDT 1997

I would guess one of the songs from "Sindhu Bhairavi", because of the director K.Balachandar. (My answer doesn't sound original after the two responses above!) While IR's gnanam in carnatic music & light music alike is a given thing, working with a director like KB who has higher standards and expectations from his MD's than an average director must have been a novel and challenging experience for IR.
From: Pagalavan (@ pkrishna-pc.cisco.com) on: Thu Aug 28 12:30:50 EDT 1997

Sathya Keerthi:

I would strongly guess that IR would have been challenged by KB and IR (in turn) would have been a challenge to the lyricist. I would guess, either Sindhu Bairavi or Punnagai Mannan. (1) enna saththam indha nEram (2) paadaRiyEn padippaRiyEn

Anyway, konjam seekkiramaa vidai sollunga saar..
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Thu Aug 28 14:58:49 EDT 1997

SK:
I remember an Interview on DD when IR had mentioned that the song "Sri ranga ranga nadhadin" in Mahanadhi took him some time to compose. He also said that the raga used for the song was very rarely used in TFM and also very difficult to compose. I think this is what IR should have hold.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Thu Aug 28 15:00:40 EDT 1997

SK:
I remember an Interview on DD when IR had mentioned that the song "Sri ranga ranga nadhadin" in Mahanadhi took him some time to compose. He also said that the raga used for the song was very rarely used in TFM and also very difficult to compose. I think this is what IR should have hold.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Aug 28 20:17:48 EDT 1997

IR-idam kEtkappatta kELvi:

endha oru paadalukkaaga neengaL adhiga nEram
& niraya tharam mettamaikkumpadiyaaga nErittadhu?

Idharkku IR gave a short answer without any
details, just mentioning one particular song:

"mettamaikka evvaLavu naaL eduththukkoNdaalum,
oru 'Phrase' paLichchiduvadhu ennavO gaNa
nEraththilthaan. perumbaalum, ennudaya periya
Hit-aana paadalgaL ellaam oru 'Flash'-il
vandhavaidhaan. adhigamaana nEram 'compose' seydha
paadal '????????' endra paadalthaan. moondru maNi
nEraththirkkum mEl vidaamal thirumbath thirumba
adhaiyE paadik koNdirundhEn."

ivvaLavudhaan avar sonna badhil. No one has
guessed it right till now. The song is one of
my all-time favourites and I included it in
one of the MIME pOtti that I conducted. As
Rajaraman has said, I will wait for some more
answers before revealing the '????????'.
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Aug 28 22:33:54 EDT 1997

Shashi

You did not mention the usage of naathasvaram in 'sangkIthamE' - exemplary.

Sathiya Keerthi

My guess - manjaL nilaavukku inRu orE sugam - right? IR-in ellaa paattaiyum vittuttu inthap paattai engE pudichchEnnu paakkaRIngkaLaa - ellaam ungka 'clue' thaan kaaraNam.
From: Pags (@ batboy.cisco.com) on: Thu Aug 28 22:42:44 EDT 1997

My second round of guess:

1. thamthana thamthana thaaLam varum..
2. siRuponmani asaiyum..
3. maNNil indha kaadhalanDRi..
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Aug 29 01:51:22 EDT 1997

IR sonna paadal: PAADU NILAAVE.

Andha interview-vil innOru kELviyum IR-in badhilum:

Q: kavinjarukkum paadal aasiriyarukkum uLLa vERupaadu enna?

IR: kavidhai ennum uNarvu idaividaathu uLLOdum
oru manithanE kavinjan. ivan paarppathu, kEtpathu
edhuvaayirundhaalum adhu kavidhaiyaagavE avanaal
uNarappadum. avanaal edhaiyum kavidhaiyaakka
mudiyum. oru thurumbaiyum thoosiyaiyum saakkadaiyaiyum
kooda kavidhai nilaikku uyarththividuvaan.
avanukku varaimuRaigaL kidaiyaathu. ilakkaNaththai
meeRuvaan. ivan ezhuthuvadhE - oru pudhu
ilakkaNamaagividum. ivanaip pOnRu - edhaiyum
kavidhaiyaay uNarakkoodiya oru manidhanukku
mattumE ivan thalai vaNanguvaan. vERu yaarukkum
ivan thalai vaNangaathu. ivanukku 'kavithai'
pizahippukkaaga eduththuk koNda thozhil alla.
athuvE, andhak kavidhaiyE avanathu vaazhkkai,
allathu, avanE oru kavidhai.

Paadal aasiriyarO - paadalaiyE than thozhilaagak
koLbavar. ilakkaNanggaLai ivar meeRa maattaar.
edharkkum vaLaindhu koduppaar. Thamizhil uLLa vaarththaigaLai
kaNakku vazhakkindri manappaadam seydhiruppaar.
kEtpavargaLukku paadam solvaar. ThamizhukkaagavE
uzhaikkiREn enbaar. Thamizhai arasaatchiyil amarththavE
ivar innum vaazhndhu koNdiruppadhaaga solvaar.
innoru pakkaththil varumaanaththiRkaaga vERu
sila thozhilgaLum seydhu koNdiruppaar. ivar
ezhuthum kavidhaiyil uLLa 'KAA' ennum ezhuththuththaan oru paRavaiyaagi ivarin
kavidhaiyai suttikkaattum vidhaththil 'KAA KAA'
endru kaththugiRathu endru kooda kooRuvaar.

indha 'paadal aasiriyar' endra pattiyalil sila
appaavik kavinjargaL kooda thangaLaik 'kavi' endru
kooRa achchappattu - 'paadal aasiriyargaL' endrE
thangaLai adaiyaaLam solvadhuNdu. enakku therindhu
'Bharathi' enbavanE kavinjan. appuRam 'Bharathi
Dhasan'thaan. IvargaLukku kavidhaiyum paadalum
vayitrup pizhaippalla. ivargaLin paadalum kavidhaiyE! kavidhaiyum paadalE!
From: Kanchana (@ ww-ti22.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Aug 29 10:56:02 EDT 1997

Sathiya Keerthi:
Thank you for that mini-quizz, the answer and the transliteration of the actual interview.

Oru sandhaegam:
IR sonna Kavignar-Paadal Aasiriyar logic'ai "Isai"kku apply panninaal namakku kidaikira badhil enna?.............
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Tue Sep 2 12:14:38 EDT 1997

Hey IR-fans:
Here are some questions about IR. Who is IR's wife? What's her name? Any details about her?

I wonder why IR keeps his wife out of the cinema world. It is true that we do not about the families of some top people but in IR's case, the info about his wife remains a mystery. Any news?
From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Tue Sep 2 13:09:42 EDT 1997

IR's wife's name is Jeeva. He does not hide her. IR has been photographed with his wife in public many times.
From: Ravi (@ hope.cs.umass.edu) on: Tue Sep 2 14:50:04 EDT 1997

I went to the same school as Karthik Raja. Have happened to Mrs. Jeeva many times waiting for her son to come out of his classes. Then after a while when we were travelling in the same compartment in a train she recognized me (ungaLa naan ErkanavE paarththu irukkEnnu sonnaanga). Then we spent the rest of the journey talking. She was accompanied by Gangai Amaren's wife, who was very shy. aana Mrs. IR was quite a nice person to chat with. She app. is just a house wife and happy with her lot. :-)
From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Sep 3 00:10:51 EDT 1997

There was a 'thuNuku' in Vikatan sometime around Dec 96. It said that his wife manages IR' s schedule. She answered Vikatan's reporter on when is THE symphony coming out. She told them that it will be out in mid 97. But....
From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Wed Sep 3 07:29:19 EDT 1997

cp:

There was a photograph of Jeeva sitting next to IR in one of the recent (about 2 months ago) AV issues.
From: shankar (@ webgate3.mot.com) on: Fri Oct 17 10:53:07 EDT 1997

Mr guru,
U might be a hard-core ARR fan,but giving a statement like that"....main course being served..ARR" is really a biased attitude (just a thought).besides,if ARR is the main course,only the oorugai and appalam will be new and the 'main course' would be an old stuff or stolen from some other pandhi (again,just a thought).
From: sathya (@ client-151-200-126-19.bellatlantic.net) on: Thu Jan 1 01:35:05 EST 1998

Hi Ilayaraja Fans,

Decide now. Never respond to a person who compares Ilayaraja and ARR. Ilayaraja is the reference for Music. One can at the maximum equal his talents. The comparison between Raja and IRR is something like comparing Einsteen and A school student who scores first mark in physics.

Nobody can stay at the top throughout the career. Asking Raja to compete todays Music directors is as foolish as asking Don Bradman to come to the field and score a century. (This example is quiet not acceptable as Raja still can score a century). If a player plays well he can try to reach closely to Bradman. Comparing with Bradman himself will be absurd.

I will give you another example. Ajit has good market today while Sivaji almost stopped acting. Can we claim that Since Ajit has a beteer value today he is ahead of Sivaji. Also Sivaji was naver paid the amounts paid to today's heroes. So never comapre IR with any other MD before him or After Him. If you really want me to explain why IR is far ahead of other MDs whether he is MSV/ARR/LAKSHMIKANTH PYARILAL/BARMAN etc I will explain in detail in pages.

sathya
From: pinnocio (@ ) on: Sun May 6 19:22:36 EDT 2001

That was a good one sathya!
Thanx

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