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vani jayaram: her film songs and their ragas

Among female play-back singers, vani jayaram is my favourite. Her voice is so sweet and so distinct.
Almost all of her songs are superhits.
I would really appreciate if someone could tell me the RAGAM on which the following songs of vani jayaram are based:

1. "Malligai en mannan mayangum" (from Dheerga sumangali, her second favourite song of hers; the first one, she said, is some oriya song?)

2. 'En vullam azhagaana vellithirai"
3. "megame megame,paal nilaa thedhudhe" (paalai vana cholai)
4. "Ezhu swarangalukkul etthanai paadal" ( what a song!!! i know it is mostly based on Panthuvarali; but i hear there are traces of other ragas also in this song; this song, which won her national award, is her favourite song of hers)
5. kelviyin naayagane, en kelviggu padil edhaiyaa?

Topic started by saketh vijayraghavan (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on Sat Jul 26 16:49:23 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

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Responses:

• From: Arvind (@ nhv-ct1-15.ix.netcom.com) on: Sun Jul 27 20:13:22 EDT 1997
  
  i wud agree too vani jayaram has got a ganeer voice
  malligai en manna mayangum happens to be her first song in tamil. she i guess is more suited to classical songs
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Sun Jul 27 21:22:16 EDT 1997
  
  Ezhu swarangalukkul - This song starts with Pantuvaraali.
  Before every charanam, the violinist briefly plays a different
  raagam and VJ starts singing the followig charanam in this
  new raagam. At the end of this charanam, she again comes
  back to Pantuvaraali and goes to a different raagam in the
  next charanam.
  The sequence of ragas(if I'm right) is Ranjani, Sindhu Bairavi,
  Kamboji.
  
  The coming-back to Pantuvarali is very conspicuous.
  
  "payanam nadathividu marainthidum paavam". The first time, it
  is sung in sindhu bairavi. The second time, it is sung in
  Pantuvaraali.
  
  MSV did a song in this style in Mridanga chakravarthy. The
  song is "sugamaana raagangalE". Again by VJ.
  
  Kelviyin naayagane - This is another ragamalika.
  Darbari kanada , Amirthavarshini, Madhyamaavathi.
  
  Megame megame - Baageshri or some raagam very close to it.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8) on: Mon Jul 28 02:00:30 EDT 1997
  
  The pre-Ilayaraja period had a lot of SPB-VJ duets. This pair gave some songs even after that. But SJ became IR's 'aaSththaana paadaki'. Some of SPB-VJ songs:
  
  gowri manOhariyai - mazhaLaip pattaaLam
  naanaa paaduvathu naanaa - nUlvEli
  iLakkaNam maaRuthO - nizhal nijamaakiradhu
  baarathi kaNNammaa - ninaiththaalE inikkum
  orE naaL - iLamai Unjalaadukirathu
  vaa vaa pakkam vaa - thangkamakan
  enaith thEdum mEgam - kaNNOdu kaN
  thangkamaNi rangKamaNi - viduthalai
  oru jigu jigu - sahaadEvan mahaadEvan
  
  Few solos:
  
  naadhamenum kOyililE - manmatha lIlai
  en uLLil engO - rOsaappU ravikkaikkaari
  naanE naanaa - azhagE unnai aaraadhikkirEn
  
  Other duets
  
  thenRalil aadum - ma. mI. sundharapaaNdiyan
  gangai nadhi Oram - varappirasaadham
  
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Mon Jul 28 04:31:59 EDT 1997
  
  Solos:
  manamagale un manavarai kolam - ?
  en kalyaana vaibogam - lalitha?
  Oru puram vedan - ?
  Moongililai kaadugale - some "xxxx oru yyyy" type of visu movie
  ganapathyE - marumagal ?
  
  Can we make a KJY-VJ list?
  
  Thendralil aadum - Mathurayai meetta sundarapaandiyan
  Sorgathin thirappu vizhaa - Pallaandu vaazhga
  Ithu thaan mudhal raathiri - Oorukku uzhaippavan(i think it's VJ)
  Iraivan irandu bommaigal seithaan - Uyarndhavargal
  Thangathil nirameduthu - Meenava nanban
  Ithu iravaa pagalaa - Neela malargal
  Thirumaalin thirumaarbil - Thirisoolam
  Ninaivaale silai seithu - Andhamaan kaathali
  Gangai yamunai - Imayam
  
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Jul 28 05:25:05 EDT 1997
  
  Rajaraman:
  
  manamagale un manavarai kolam: Kaalangalil
  Aval Vasantham
  
  En kalyaana vaibogam: Azhage Unnai Aaraathikkiren
  
  Oru puram vedan: Mayangugiraal oru maadhu
  
  (Oh what a coincidence: all movie names
  are the starting lines of songs!)
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ liberty.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Jul 28 05:34:25 EDT 1997
  
  VJ-KJY:
  
  1. aaramba kaalam oru pakka thaalam - Payanam
  2. There is a nice song in "Suprapadham"
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8) on: Mon Jul 28 05:42:40 EDT 1997
  
  moongkil ilaik kaadukaLe is from peNmaNi avaL kaNmaNi. Sorry Rajaraman, your algorithm failed. The SPB version of this song is lovely.
  
  VJ sings regularly for Visu.
  
  paarththu sirikkudhu bommai - thirumathi oru vegumathi
  kattik karumbE kaNNaa - samsaaram adhu minsaaram
  
  
  
  
  
• From: saketh vijayaraghavan (@ chem-mac-75.rutgers.edu) on: Mon Jul 28 14:46:49 EDT 1997
  
  thanks everyone for the responses.
  
  What about the raga for the song "malligai en mannan mayangum" ? Does any one know the raga on which it is based?
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Mon Jul 28 21:01:45 EDT 1997
  
  Aravind,
  More appropriately, VJ sings regularly for sankar ganesh.
  
  
  
• From: Arvind (@ nhv-ct6-28.ix.netcom.com) on: Mon Jul 28 21:21:43 EDT 1997
  
  i dont know if this is a sentiment there is atleast one song of VJ in visu's movie
  
  one more addition is
  
  manna un kovilai thedi -- vedikkai en vaddikai
  
  
• From: Sundar Ramanathan (@ 202.54.10.95) on: Sat Aug 2 08:02:45 EDT 1997
  
  another great vj number i remember is
  
  yaaradhu sollaamal nenjaLLi pOvadhu
  
  from "nenjamellaam nIyE"
  
  
• From: vasanth (@ antares.cc.umanitoba.ca) on: Mon Aug 4 10:25:23 EDT 1997
  
  One of great Vani's number is yaaradhu sollamal nenjalli ...even in the movie Radha did full justice to this song.
  
  Another great number is from punnagai mannan - Kellungal kavithai piranthathu naana..
  especially the last bit wherein she swutches to the folk tune - paarimeethu pavarzha malligai pathiyam pottadhaaru... was excellent.
  
  Her hindi scores - the very first song boluree papi -the debut movie of jayabhadhuri was a masterpiece. Infact for this song she had won the tansen award for which lata mangeshar was also one of the contestants.
  
  
• From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Mon Aug 4 11:15:37 EDT 1997
  
  To Vasanth:
  I think the song goes likes this:
  Kavithai KelungaL karuvil pirandhadhu raagam
  
  Ya! excellent number.
  
  
• From: Sundar Ramanathan (@ 202.54.10.89) on: Wed Aug 6 07:48:03 EDT 1997
  
  this seems to be turning into a vani jayaram "list"
  let me put in my mite too (blame it on n o valen)
  
  ponggum kadal Osai (meenava naNban)
  malligai mullai poo pandhal (anbE aaruyirE)
  {the song actually goes off like...
  ellaam ethaRkaaka, namakku kalyaaNam athaRkaaka}
  naanaa, paaduvathu naanaa (nool vEli)
  sri devi varam kEtkiraaL (dhEviyin thirumaNam)
  {with PS}
  ninaiththathu niRaivERum (ninaiththathu niRaivERum ?)
  muththamizil paada vanthEn
  muruganaiyE vananggi nindrEn (mEl naattu marumagaL)
  kaaviri nagarinil kadarkkari Oraththil
  maadhavi aada vanthaaL (vaaznthu kaatukirEn)
  
  
• From: PRIYA (@ kcpxy4.att.com) on: Tue Aug 19 12:46:28 EDT 1997
  
  
  There is a onderful song by VJ in "Sirai"
  "Naan padi kondae irrupaen.."
  
  
• From: Pagalavan (@ mb.cisco.com) on: Tue Aug 19 15:05:03 EDT 1997
  
  Another good song by VJ (music by S&G) is:
  "aala maraththuk kiLi..
  aaLap paarththu pEsum kiLi.."
  from "paalabishekam"
  
  There is a good duet of VJ-SPB that starts like:
  "romba naaLaaga enakkoru aasai.." (film??) music by S&G. This is also a sripriya film.
  
  
• From: Priya (@ kcpxy2.att.com) on: Wed Aug 20 12:37:55 EDT 1997
  
  
  There is another excellent song "Naalai mudhal unnakaagavae naan paduvaen, en uyir kannanae" by VJ in "Nenjamaelam neeyae"
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Wed Aug 20 22:33:02 EDT 1997
  
  'romba naaLaaga' is from 'ennadi meenaatchi'
  
  
• From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Thu Aug 21 08:24:59 EDT 1997
  
  To sathiya keerthi:
  
  There is a beautiful VJ song in Mayangugiral oru madhu - sugam 1000 en ninaivugalae -
  
  Some more VJ songs.
  
  Neram pournami neram with SPB - meenava nanban
  sabthaswarm punnagayil kandaen (duet) - nadagamE ulagam (md vkumar)
  enakkenna manakkavalai (solo) MD S-G
  Mazhaikkala megam maharajan - kasturi vijayam
  Thirumurugan aruginilae valli (with JC) - mayor meenatchi
  Gangai nadiyoram (with KJ) - varapprasadam
  
  
• From: Arvind (@ 204.245.93.102) on: Thu Aug 21 16:57:42 EDT 1997
  
  one more beautiful song
  
  madanochavam spb and VJ in sathurangam along the
  tunes of mana ho tum
  
  
• From: VASANT (@ merak.cc.umanitoba.ca) on: Sat Aug 23 18:35:45 EDT 1997
  
  Another good song
  Idayam pesinal unnidam ...
  this is a remake of the Hindi movie Muquaddar ka sikander, this song picturised on Madhavi also happens to be her favourite number.
  Even this song - En ullam azhagana velithirai - in the movie Cinema payithiyam. Vani had started her career in the original Hindi version of this film.
  
  
• From: vasant (@ merak.cc.umanitoba.ca) on: Sat Aug 23 18:42:45 EDT 1997
  
  Another song in the movie Aaniver - starring saritha - Muthu Muthu therrottam ..
  Couple of years back in one of the Mellisai prog. in Madras DD, she sang this duet - Azhaghu Azhagu
  Kannukku Mai azhaghu, with Jayachandran. Now the same song with a different tune was used in the movie Puthiya Mugam by ARehman.
  
  
• From: Suresh R. Mani (@ slip129-37-207-198.in.us.ibm.net) on: Sun Aug 24 10:40:47 EDT 1997
  
  To Saketh Vijayaragavan,
  I think 'EN ullam azhagaana velli thirai' is in Udayaravichandrika (It's similar to the carnatic composition popularised by G.N.B, Himagiri thanaye Hemalathe)
  
  
• From: saketh (@ chem-pc-44.rutgers.edu) on: Sun Aug 31 17:48:38 EDT 1997
  
  To suresh R.Mani
  
  
  Is not "Himagiri thanaye hemalathe" based on
  Suddha Dhanyasi?"
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Sun Aug 31 22:58:48 EDT 1997
  
  Saketh
  
  I think uthayaravichandrika and sudhdha dhanyaasi refer to the same raagam.
  
  
  
• From: va ni-vaanga neenga (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Mon Sep 1 07:10:52 EDT 1997
  
  My favorite VJ-KJJ songs are from andhamAn kAthali
  - ninaivAlE silai seithu unakkAga vaithEn
  - anthamAnaip pArungal azagu
  
  with SPB:
  - nAlu pakkam vEdarundu naduvinilE mAni rendu
  (annan oru koil)
  - mEdai-il Adidum meillia poongAtrE nee Adai-il
  (vandikAran magan)
  solo:
  - annan oru koil endrAl thangaio oru deepamandRo
  
  Looks like, MSV's favorite singer (NOT singstress)
  is VJ - most of her hit songs are by MSV.
  
  
  
• From: Kannan (@ 130.160.36.115) on: Tue Sep 2 16:19:22 EDT 1997
  
  mEgam munthaanai veesuthu thannaalE - ?
  song by SPB & VJ
  music by SPB
  
  
• From: Pags (@ pkrishna-pc.cisco.com) on: Tue Sep 2 17:07:26 EDT 1997
  
  kannan
  mEgam mundhaanai.. is from thudikkum karangaL
  
  
• From: kutta_theriyaathavan (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Tue Sep 2 22:16:25 EDT 1997
  
  BSK("Bones" SK),
  
  annan ori koil enraal susheela paadiya paadal allavo..
  
  
• From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Wed Sep 3 14:17:45 EDT 1997
  
  Some more VJ songs.
  
  kandhanukku malaiyittaL kanagaththu vaLLi mayil - uzhaikkum karangal
  vanakkam palamurai sonnen - avan oru History
  
  one more song from Thalia Salangaiya?
  
  
• From: Pags (@ batboy.cisco.com) on: Wed Sep 3 15:03:05 EDT 1997
  
  Ravy
  
  vanakkam palamuRai..is by TMS & PS
  
  
• From: vasant (@ antares.cc.umanitoba.ca) on: Wed Sep 3 21:22:32 EDT 1997
  
  To Ravy
  The song from Thalia salangaiya - Mangalam...Kunguma nayagi..
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ucc205.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Thu Sep 4 17:16:52 EDT 1997
  
  Nalamo ene naan ketten(nenjil oru raagam-her only
  song under TRajenders music)
  Idhu sugam sugam(vandicholai chinnaraasu-her
  only song under ARRs music)
  kaatrinile sangeetham (rasigan oru rasigai)
  en ullil engao aengum geetham(rosappu ravikkaikari)
  nitham nitham nelli choru(mullum malarum)
  unnai kaanum neram nenjil(Unnai naan sandhiten)
  pillai manam vellai manam(oru malarin payanam)
  Muthu muthu pennae(Manidhan)
  naadhamennum kovilile(manmadha leelai)
  kalyaaname oru pennodu dhan(lalitha)
  sorgathile mudivaanadhu(lalitha)
  
  
  
• From: PRIYA (@ cbpxy0.att.com) on: Fri Sep 5 12:23:01 EDT 1997
  
  Some more of her hits
  Cola Cola Cocoa cola(Mangamma sabadham - Kamal&Madhavi)
  Alla asathum malliyae-VJ & SPB
  Sugaragamae en sugobogamae-VJ & Malaysia Vasudevan
  Ayyivukku manasirruku -(Thee)
  ABC nee vaasi ellam en kairaasi(Oru kaidhiyin dairy)
  Amma undhan (this is a beautiful Bharathiyar song. I do not remember the movie! This is one of my favorites)
  
  There is another song in Bhagyaraj's movie idhu namma allu. I do not remember the starting lines. It is a competition song sung by Bhagyaraj and Shobana in the movie.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ww-tm04.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Sep 5 19:28:32 EDT 1997
  
  Priya its 'sangeetham paada gnanam ullavargal vendum'
  
  
• From: Pags (@ batboy.cisco.com) on: Fri Sep 5 21:45:48 EDT 1997
  
  priya
  
  "thee" has another good VJ song too. Its "naadinEn..nambinEn.."
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Fri Sep 5 23:09:56 EDT 1997
  
  Have we listed,
  
  santhira pirai paarthen
  kodi santhippu nigazhnthathadi - kizhakkum merkkum santhikkindrana
  
  
• From: vasant (@ antares.cc.umanitoba.ca) on: Sun Sep 7 14:58:41 EDT 1997
  
  Some more VJ'S songs
  Indraiku yen indha anandame -Jayachandran and Vani in Vaidehi Kathirundhal
  Veru idam thedipoovaloo indha vedhanaiyil irundhu--in Sila nerangalil sila manidhargal
  Ilakanam maarudho ilakiyam aanadho - with SPB in Nizhal Nijamaagirathu
  
  
• From: Krishnan (@ 202.54.6.116) on: Thu Jan 22 08:06:16 EST 1998
  
  Nice to come across page devoted to my favourite singer Vani Jairam. Can anyone list out Vani's songs from the Hindi film "Meera" *ing Hema Malini?
  
  
• From: Siva (@ ) on: Thu Jan 25 09:52:07 EST 2001
  
  Has anybody heard a song by Vani Jayaram which starts like this?
  "Vasantha kaala kolangal , vaanil vizhuntha kodugal, kalainthidum kanavugal, kanneer sinthum ninaivugal"
  If you have heard this song, please send
  me an EMail telling me the name of the film.I have been searching for this song for some 20 years.
  Regards
  siva
  
  

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