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SPB - Lack of classical training

Topic started by Srini (@ 213.42.0.248) on Sun Jan 27 02:34:34 EST 2002.
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Hi all,

I am a huge fan of SPB.I also listen to carnatic music quite a lot. SPB's regret in life is that he didn't learn Carnatic music formally. To me, very few can match him in enjoying what he sings & put 'Bhavam' in what seems be it pathos or dance numbers or "dabaan koothu'(Nobody beats him here). If you see his stage performances, he is the only person who does not sing the song as it is on tape. All the rest , including Yesudoss, Janaki, (people who have learnt Carnatic music)sing it exactly as it is on tape. That innovation within the guidelines is what one expects out of a carnatic music concert. What are ur thoughts - Has SPB lost anything by not having learnt Carnatic music ?

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Responses:

• From: fan (@ 202.9.147.143) on: Sun Jan 27 04:00:00 EST 2002
  
  many like me were introduced to caranatic music only through shankarabaranam. that is the magic of this amazing man
  
  
• From: Ram Lakshman (@ 216.142.233.73) on: Sun Jan 27 05:09:28 EST 2002
  
  Srini;
  
  No, SPB has not lost anything by Not learning Carnatic, though he is always unhappy that he has not learnt Carnatic, he blames him self for not learning it, being a busy man from dubbing, singing , acting, producing he has no time to learn carnatic, he has asked KJY many to teach him Carnatic, KJY agreed, while saying that SPB is already a master @ carnatic, without any training.
  
  Balamurali Krishna another Sangeetha vithwan, once said in a TV program, that "Balu" can sing all the songs I sung, But I can not sing all Balu's songs!.
  THAT IS SPB!
  
  Like fan, said many people especially youngsters do not listen to Carnatic ( with a few exceptions like me), it is SPB through the amazing voice of "Shankaraparanam" made everyone listens to Carnatic.
  
  SPB's main asset is his superb voice, which can be very heavy & tender @ times, when ever he modulates, just listen to "shakaraparanam", his heavy voice here suits the character superbly, although KJY & BMK are better carnatic than SPB, I donot think they would have sounded better, as these to lack the deep voice of SPB, anyway.
  
  SPB may be the greatest singer in india, but certainly one of the greatest!
  
  
• From: aavEndhan (@ 64.126.84.100) on: Sun Jan 27 22:32:52 EST 2002
  
  Ram Lakshman:
  
  That was beautiful. Now go back, edit your post, and tell what your post really meant. There is no hurry. Take your time :-)
  
  ivan post la words a eppdi thiruppi pOttaalum thalaiyum puriyala, kaalum puriyalaiyE. idhenna sOdhanaidaa aNNaa thambi?
  
  
• From: Karthi (@ 64.105.35.85) on: Mon Jan 28 17:44:38 EST 2002
  
  
  Your Question :Has SPB lost anything by not having learnt Carnatic music ?
  
  My Answer : PS is the greatest singer ever.
  
  
• From: aavEndhan (@ 64.126.84.100) on: Mon Jan 28 21:41:19 EST 2002
  
  Karthi: kEtta kELvikku badhil solla theriyaama, neenga kondu vandha "bit" taiyE, adhuvum thappaana bittu vEra, copy adichchadhunaala, neenga indha test la gOttu thaan. pOi test kku ozhungaa padichchundu vaarum :)
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Tue Jan 29 04:32:30 EST 2002
  
  Karthi;
  
  I know u are PS fan(atic), but please answer the question about SPB's lack of carnatic training, but I also love Susheela amma's voice!
  
  
• From: who (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Jan 29 04:59:35 EST 2002
  
  no karthi - spb is much greater than susheela amma. Susheela amma lacks the heavy bass of spb. Can she sing like a drunken man? No. are her kattais deep enuf? No. this facts cannot be denyed.
  
  (not to be taken seriously)
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Tue Jan 29 05:11:22 EST 2002
  
  who;
  
  u r one f a**, I know what u r trying 2 do, yeah, how can a lady have a deep voice, you are a one pathetic fool, trying 2 divert the topic.
  
  
  
• From: raju (@ 172.149.219.63) on: Tue Jan 29 09:14:33 EST 2002
  
  Guys even though SPB doesn't have classical training he sings classical songs like an angel. Look at the song Vedham and Thakida Thiathimi from Salangai oli!
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Tue Jan 29 11:04:39 EST 2002
  
  Raju;
  
  Appadi poodu nayaina arvave.
  
  
• From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Tue Jan 29 11:08:21 EST 2002
  
  Ragu,
  But What about Mk and EK of SPB?
  
  
• From: srini (@ 213.42.0.248) on: Tue Jan 29 11:39:22 EST 2002
  
  Appadiya antha arivave isai piriyan mela podu
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Tue Jan 29 13:09:34 EST 2002
  
  No no no,every body prefers MK and EK here.No aruvals are allowed!!
  
  
• From: srini (@ 213.42.0.242) on: Wed Jan 30 00:04:36 EST 2002
  
  Is this a cease fire between u two ?
  
  Kattai Panchayatu ?
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Wed Jan 30 04:47:40 EST 2002
  
  Hi srini;
  
  as you can c from the IP address "Raguvaran (@ 157.95.211.50) ", is not me, but the same idiot who call him self "Isai Priyan", I do not know why he chose the name, as he has no sense nor understanding about music,just ignore him, like when children misbehave, it is better 2 ignore so that they do not repeat the same thing, but this so called Isai Priyan, is beyond that case, just ignore him.
  
  "Some motherd do have them, u know"
  
  
• From: Isai Priyan (@ 157.95.211.50) on: Wed Jan 30 10:34:25 EST 2002
  
  But what about Mk and EK?
  
  
• From: AVR (@ 203.115.118.34) on: Sat Feb 2 01:26:58 EST 2002
  
  when raguvaran 212 told me that SPB has no classical training, i was amazed. He did a great job in SHANKARABHARANAM, SEETAKC, KADHAL OVIYUM et al. Kudos to SPB!!
  
  
• From: Rahul (@ 216.144.70.231) on: Sat Feb 2 06:25:18 EST 2002
  
  AVR;
  
  Yeah, that's right!
  
  BTW, SPB lacks NOTHING, he got everything!!!
  
  

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