Topic started by pluto (@ fda.nrl.navy.mil) on Mon Sep 20 11:09:07 EDT 1999.
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Can someone tell Deva to stop singing. I think he started singing for heroes, moving from khana songs. It is atrocious.
Responses:
- From: mars (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Sep 20 11:26:22 EDT 1999
You are a far-off planet. You don't know the
realities in earth! :-))
- From: are you the planet or the dog? (@ daecfp02.sprint.com)
on: Mon Sep 20 17:14:03 EDT 1999
He is singing for his "khaanaa"
- From: raju (@ host212-140-78-187.host.btclick.com)
on: Mon Sep 20 17:54:47 EDT 1999
there's nowt wrong with his singing. get off his back. u r not (obviouly) gonna criticise IR or ARR so why pick on deva. i like some of his songs just as i like many IR/ARR songs. deva also has that rustic throaty feel/sound and is brill at times. meesakara nanba, salomia, thanjavooru etc... forget ur predjudices and enjoy the voice.
- From: Deva never sang a song :-) (@ 199.35.117.28)
on: Mon Sep 20 20:10:35 EDT 1999
Guys,
Prejudices apart, I do believe that deva songs compromise quality for quantity!. (I have to agree that he surprised by giving Aasai, Avvai shanmugi etc...).
ARR and IR never attempted to tear the eardrums of the audience like deva ( specifically his brothers) does!. If you are listening to the 'rusticness' of his voice, YES you may do so!. But don;t even compare that with IR and ARR!. Vandhe maatharam and Santhosha kannere (Uyire) shows that our man can render the voice better that most singers!
- From: Kamesh (@ pm-102-58.tm.net.my)
on: Mon Sep 20 20:58:04 EDT 1999
Raju
Thanjavooru mannu eduthu was not sung by Deva.
- From: raju (@ host212-140-155-249.host.btclick.com)
on: Tue Sep 21 15:40:40 EDT 1999
the arguementis not ab who is better, here. it's ab should deva sing at all. didn't MSV and SA rajkumar(?) sing as well.if the song is good why worry ab the quality of the voice.his voice is OK.mick jagger, johny rotten, michael stipe...the list goes on...their voices were never perfect but suited the style as does deva's voice.
erm..sorry ab thanjavooru manne eduthu...who sang it then?
- From: pluto (@ 05-045.007.popsite.net)
on: Tue Sep 21 19:36:50 EDT 1999
If you want to compare among the current and past singers in Tamil film music Deva is the worst. I like his music not his voice. It was somewhat OK for khana songs but recently for Vijay he sang a song in Nenjinlae. I am really scared what if he starts singing all songs in a film like Ilayaraja.
- From: Kamesh (@ hlr-42-95.tm.net.my)
on: Tue Sep 21 21:26:01 EDT 1999
raju
It was Krishnaraj
- From: Genius (@ srirama.intecom.com)
on: Tue Sep 21 22:58:15 EDT 1999
stop listening to deva songs..
u are least bothered about the songs he sing...
they are attrocious...
gokulathu kanna vaa vaa, a song from gokulathil seethai, was completely spoilt becuase deva sang the last part for manivannan..
why should everyone assume that fat, black looking people have a course voice/sour throat (whatever the case may be..)
why cant manivannan or koundamani have song in a movie with a decent voiced singer??
i really dont understand..
PUZZLES OF TFM !!!
- From: Jana (@ pppa46-resalecolumbus1-2r1168.saturn.bbn.com)
on: Sat Sep 25 11:21:55 EDT 1999
Actually, we cannot blame Deva. It was the precedent set by Ilayaraja. Of course, many other music directors have sung songs, but Ilayaraja is the one who sung many songs, even for heroes. But, there is subtle difference betweeen Ilayaraja's singing and other music director's singing. Many of the Ilayaraja's songs were quite melodious like Janani.. janani, Idayam oru Koil, Metti oli kaatrodu, the recent one in Kaadal Kavidai. Deva cannot sing with bhaavam and he is fit to sing songs like 'ghaana' paattu for khaana. Above all, he is top of his career and he can dare to play such things. Even MSV had sung songs can you say they are melodius or atleast enjoyable (vellai kaaka mallaka parakkudu and aalukoru theadi vechi aandavan azhaippaan.. aandavan azhaippaan). So for heavensake, we can never compare Deva with other music directors (with respect to singing). So for an individual opinion Deva should stop this atrocity of singing for heroes or even ghaana paattu. How long one can hear or sing 'ghaana' paattu?
- From: kucci (@ bkj-cache81.jaring.my)
on: Sun Sep 26 01:55:07 EDT 1999
Thingking about Deva, I can only remember him singing ghanaa songs sometimes with meaningful verses but most of times the lyrics will be about love or other things. Jana put it right. IR's voice and bhavaam could not compared to most of other MD's, sorry for arr's fans. IR is the only MD who, I suppose, have the beautiful voice. Other may try like SARajkumar in the Oru Devahdai Vanthu Viddhal in Nee Varuvaai Ena but could match IR. Take Hey Konji Peesu Kannamma in KKavidhai for example. arr is the best suite for humming voices.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com)
on: Tue Sep 28 03:21:46 EDT 1999
This thread is the ideal candidate for termination, if not for the topic, atleast for the contributor's pre-occupation with the posterior.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ spider-wc083.proxy.aol.com)
on: Tue Sep 28 03:34:44 EDT 1999
This thread is the ideal candidate for termination, if not for the topic, atleast for the contributor's pre-occupation with the posterior
- From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu)
on: Tue Sep 28 14:50:41 EDT 1999
srirAm,
if you don't repeat it once more, onga vAkku Elam pOkAdhu. :-))
- From: Kooththan-II (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com)
on: Tue Sep 28 17:12:52 EDT 1999
Yenna SL, romba kaduppa irukkeenga ? BTW there admin peoples who taked care of terminal problem.
- From: Pala (@ proxy.primus.com.au)
on: Sat Oct 2 07:07:34 EDT 1999
Can someone explain what is "Ghanna" paattu.
- From: Ilaya Rasigan (@ pppa19-resalecolumbus1-2r1168.saturn.bbn.com)
on: Tue Oct 5 19:50:17 EDT 1999
Pala:
Any one, please correct me if I am wrong. There is no definition for Gaana paattu. Gaana is just a hindi word for song. Our Madrasis have somehow started using this terminology to refer to a kind of 'dappaankuttu' (like the song in Kaadal Kottai - Kavalai padaade sahodara) with a voice like Deva.
- From: Genius (@ srirama.intecom.com)
on: Tue Oct 5 21:25:38 EDT 1999
and whatever deva sings and liked by the most of the music tasteless college guys for no reason is called Ghana Paatu...
- From: Unni (@ infocache.netline.net.uk)
on: Wed Oct 6 09:46:14 EDT 1999
Deva sings for the same reason as Ilayaraja and his daughter Bhavadarini - Cheap Labour! Why use a talented singer when you can do it free by yourself or a jobless member of the family!?
- From: bb (@ franck.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Wed Oct 6 11:27:08 EDT 1999
unni:-)))))))
- From: sad_sack (@ icon-njfw.icon.com)
on: Wed Oct 6 14:44:20 EDT 1999
bb :-((((
- From: Genius (@ srirama.intecom.com)
on: Wed Oct 6 20:30:05 EDT 1999
unni
when ARR sings is it cheap labour or the most expensive effort????
- From: genius (@ srirama.intecom.com)
on: Wed Oct 6 22:38:58 EDT 1999
deva singa to provide a contrast to the other songs and try to make the other songs sound better
Just a thought!!!!
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-82-58.sprint.ca)
on: Wed Oct 6 23:56:11 EDT 1999
Unni
In that case, although I have had the same opinion you had of IR and Bhava in exasperation, ARR uses his family members and friends for the chorus. Also for the children voices, he has always opted for his sister's children. Is this not also cheap labour? Not to mention that ARR's singing is no better than Suresh Peters. Of course, SP has fans too:-).
Hey did you all know that Deva has sung a duet for the first time. I wonder which hero he will be singing for. Does anyone know if Koundamani is acting as a hero in any movie?
- From: Pala (@ proxy.iprimus.com.au)
on: Thu Oct 7 07:23:21 EDT 1999
Ilaya Rasigan
Thanx for the detail.
I think Deva's rustic voice is good, for a change than the usual smooth voice of most other singers.One song that lingers in my mind is "Kaanangatha Meenu Vaangi" from Adimachangili.
His voice somehow goes well with that of Anuradha Sriram in duets.
- From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com)
on: Thu Oct 7 13:56:54 EDT 1999
Aruvi,
Goundamani has acted as hero in a lot of films - "Pattanathil Petti", "Pirandhaen VaLarndhaen", "Oru Nallavan Oru Vallavan", to name a few. MV and Mano have also sung for him. That being the case, I don't think he'll accept Deva singing for him:-)))))
- From: Jana (@ pppa31-resalecolumbus1-2r1168.saturn.bbn.com)
on: Fri Oct 8 18:51:27 EDT 1999
I think we should not complain about ARR using his nieces and nephews or Deva using his own brother, or IR using his daughters and everybody else in his family. Finally what matters is who shines. In fact most of us do try to help our own people, even if they are not upto the mark. Similarly, ARR is trying to help his own people. All these things won't matter when these big MDs are on top of his career, but these small elements will certainly affect their career over a period of time and some time that could be one of the reasons as to why they lose their position. It was a fact that SPB demanded at one point of time that in every movie he sings, he wants atleast one song for her sister (Shailaja), but it did not last for long.
However, let us not deviate from the topic. I would strongly feel that Deva will not sustain for a long time as a singer, let it be any type of song. For a change, you can listen few songs, but not for ever. But, it is not the same with Ilayaraja. IR has sung many melodious songs and he can never ever be compared with any body like ARR or Deva.
- From: Devadhi Deva (@ anon-spica.free.anonymizer.com)
on: Sat Oct 9 13:21:33 EDT 1999
pluto:
Answer # 1: "Thenisai Thendral" Deva has a very good rustic voice (just great enough like Malaysia Vasudevan -- just shed your hatred against Deva and you can realize that!) which he wants to share with the Tamil Fraternity.
Answer # 2: If Tamil People can "tolerate" the v(n)oic(s)e of Ilayaraaja and ARR for years, they can really "enjoy" Deva's voice.
Hope these 2 answers directly address your question.
Devadhi Deva
- From: Genius (@ srirama.intecom.com)
on: Sat Oct 9 18:14:04 EDT 1999
devadhi deva:
u seem to be a Deva fanatic for no reason..
u are indeed tickling me!!!
the day, u would start comparing Deva, voice and modulations to that of Jesudas and Hariharan is not far!!!
i hope they terminate this tread before that!!!
defly dont want to hear that..
r u the son of Deva or something??
ROFL..hee hee
- From: this is not fun, check it out (@ nico.pediatrics.sunysb.edu)
on: Sat Oct 9 21:12:00 EDT 1999
Hey DD,
Didn't you read earlier postings in this thread about Deva's voice, please go to this link WWW.farts.com, I am serious, and not joking some body has dedicated this page to Deva's musical master pieces. Guys this is not a joke at all, I am not able to give link, but please try typing in the URL address, you will be surprised to know,
AAchariyapattavan
- From: Devadhi Deva (@ ascella.anonymizer.com)
on: Sat Oct 9 22:44:09 EDT 1999
Genius:
Thanks for even going a step ahead (I do not take yours as sarcastic comment..)in comparing Thenisai Thendral's voice to that of Jesudas and Hariharan.
this is not fun,check it out:
If the link you gave did work, then I should say that DEVA IS THE BEST M.D ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Because the sound clip, that you wanted me to check it out, is the sound clip that is being cherished by billions all over the world, each day. It is not disgusting to me at all. You should be feeling that way for giving me and others of this forum a cheap link like that.
- From: STS (@ 197-pool5.ras12.casnc.agisdial.net)
on: Sun Oct 10 00:22:29 EDT 1999
Hello All,
Many of you may be musically intelligent than me. I wish to say IR/ARR/Deva sings because of the compulsion of directors, may be. And it might be very true. They sing for various reasons. The reason could be mostly sentimental but in case of Deva I think he sings for Manivannan/Goundamani. You are definitely giving credit to his voice by talking about that in a forum. Deva is no less MD. I must say this though I am a fan of IR.
- From: pala (@ proxy.iprimus.com.au)
on: Wed Oct 13 08:19:44 EDT 1999
Genius
Your posting accusing Devadhi Deva as a fanatic is one that is uncalled for.If U go back and read Devadhi Deva's(DD) posting you'll know.If you still can't analyse it simply means that you're not using your critical analytical thinking capacity.
You have clearly indicated that you are a fanatic, evident from your postings in the thread IR vs ARR.
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