Topic started by rakkamma (@ 64.240.134.51) on Tue Sep 12 07:18:22 EDT 2000.
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machanungla...
namma kothavaal savadi budhanukku sema nosecut! puthu kumudam paatheengla? ragumanayum rasavayum compare panni oru mahaan, lincon'nu peru, semaya ezhuthi irukkaru!
inga padingappa...
http://www.kumudam.com/cinema/mainpage1.html
itha vida periya tamash ennanu theriyuma...arrmp3'nnu (geocities.com/arrmp3) oru pokkatha website, athoda owneru karthik, itha poora english'la mozhi peyarthu upload panni irukaan! suthama velai vetti illatha aala iruppan pola!
aanalum kumudam konjam bejaar pannuthu font'oda. athunala karthik'oda translation konjam udhavi'ya irukkumnu nenaikren.
ithu rasavoda neram. inime ragumanukku check mate thaan machi!
rakkamma
Responses:
- From: future_man (@ 136.206.35.10)
on: Tue Sep 12 08:32:15 EDT 2000
nala message mate
- From: fire_man (@ 157.182.40.145)
on: Tue Sep 12 09:05:46 EDT 2000
ayyyo,
Mani adichathu athanala odiyanthuten!!
fire illeenga!!
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Tue Sep 12 11:09:32 EDT 2000
old stuff.
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221)
on: Tue Sep 12 17:56:59 EDT 2000
The writer makes a big mistake when he says that IR has not copied. We should send the link to IR's copied songs thread to him if possible. Also Deva IR pattugalai copy adikiraar enbadhu partly untrue. Gone are those days. Now IR himself is not doing many films. Deva's sources range from Phil Collins to Rod Stewart to Ofra Haza.
Other than these minor points I tend to agree with the majority of what is written though mostly they are the writer's subjective opinions
- From: Savukkadi Singaram (@ 205.188.195.48)
on: Tue Sep 12 20:43:55 EDT 2000
Indha Kumudham payalgalukku, aarambathilirundhe IR-i pudikkadhu. Adikkadi vambukku izhupadhe velaiya pocchu.
Innum konja naal appuram paarunga, evano oru naai raajavai patri kulaikka poran. athula kulir kaivanunga.
Ippadithaan, Raghuman vandha pudhidhil kumudam pettiyil, "IR isaiyin paadhippu thanakku varak koodathu enbadharkkaga avar paadalgalai ketpadhillai" endradhum, Andha pettikku title-aaga "Ilaiyaraajavin isaiyai ketpadhillai" endru kotta ezhuthil pottu andre sindu mudiyum velaiyai aarambithu vittanunga.
- From: Vivek (@ 193.188.124.130)
on: Wed Sep 13 00:55:05 EDT 2000
It is a good article, except the comparing part.
Whatever written is the real fact, including IR's current market.
But, I don't know why arrmp3 translated it. Probably, this is the most scathing ARR criticism ever made. May be, "vanja pugazhchi" endru think panneettaaro ? :-)
- From: Karthik S (@ 12.10.193.122)
on: Wed Sep 13 03:21:33 EDT 2000
Thats interesting! A hardcore IR fan has visited my website and posted a message about my translation! Very interesting, man!
By the way, I think Lincon is absolutely justified in thinking what he wants. I'm not commenting on anything he has said, 'cos its more than apparent that Kumudam did it to boost sales and visits to its site.
Actually Kumudam does this quite often, the kind of grade 3 magazine it is. It used to rope in Subbudu to write deragatory and subjective opinions on how Unnikrishnan has killed carnatic music by singing mainstream film songs and even a ARR-IR commentary! This is Kumudam's oldest trick in thier (!) book!
--Karthik
- From: future_man (@ 136.206.35.10)
on: Wed Sep 13 04:55:41 EDT 2000
Vijay--129.252.22.221,
Sorry! IR has composed 800 films and Deva is living still on them....!Please dont take the pain
of repyling.
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Wed Sep 13 09:35:35 EDT 2000
karthik S, will give his congrats, if someone makes 'personnel' comments on IR. That something not even 0% true. But kumudam when it talks about ARR's 'music', it becomes 3rd rate!!!. I accept its 3rd rate, But imagine which rate you rate accordingly.
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Wed Sep 13 09:36:53 EDT 2000
oops, i meant..imaging which rate you would belong accordingly.
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Wed Sep 13 09:37:03 EDT 2000
oops, i meant..imagine which rate you would belong accordingly.
- From: Karthik S (@ 12.10.193.122)
on: Wed Sep 13 23:17:58 EDT 2000
I meant 3rd rate not 'cos of the ARR criticism alone. Kumudam has a long history of such provocative articles, sometimes by unknown guys and sometimes by famous guys like Subbudu. As a pucca tamilian I've grown up with mags like Kalki. Vikatan etc.
Vikatan used to be best seller in the weekly mags category but Kungumam and Kumudam stormed the scene with free gifts and such abrasive articles. Its this 'rickshawkaran-styled' provocative article which occasionally give kumudam the much needed visibility. Kalki and Vikatan dont need to do that 'cos they have a very decent past/history of journalism behind them.
Incidentally, there is a famous example of this rickshawkaran-style reporting. This was way back in time, when Indira Gandhi was the PM. Thinathanthi, a forerunner in such stories, published a front page headline one fine morning...
'Indira Gandhi jetty'udan parliamentu'kku vanthaar!'
What it actually meant was the then finance minister was a guy by name VB Jetty. Now you can imagine how much that issue might have sold!
So the condemning part was not 'cos of ARR alone!
--Karthik
- From: Kothavaal Saavadi Buddhan (@ 216.65.106.130)
on: Thu Sep 14 00:02:29 EDT 2000
namma characteriye purinjukka maattengriye maamsu!
evano oru lincon etho manasula pattatha ezhuthina enakku inna pa? naan battukku sivanennu kothaval savadila pichai eduthuttu irukken, en kitta poi bejar panriye!
aanalum bayangara tamash thaan. lincon thambi thannoda ezhuthula raja copy adikatha vallavaru, nallavaru'nu ezhuthittu, namma raguman thambi englipeeslernthu adicha paatta hindi karangalum adichu raguman thambi maatikartha ezhuthi irukane...athukku ore oru (onne onnu pa!) utharanam solla mudiyuma kannu?
oru englipees paatu, atha raguman adichu, poravu hindi kaaranga adichu maanam ponapla, oru utharanam thaanga pa, paakalaame!
adiye rakkamma ithu unakku oru savaal di/da...(therila pa, ithu entha vagainnu therila pa!)
kothavaal savadi buddhan
- From: karthi (@ 63.15.178.48)
on: Thu Sep 14 01:44:56 EDT 2000
pichai edukkumpOdhu, internet access eppadi?
- From: Genius (@ 63.22.194.159)
on: Thu Sep 14 02:15:16 EDT 2000
avar pichai edukarthu "project" pichai !!!
avar cpo (chief pichai officer) of
ThiruvoduSoft Inc.
- From: muniyamma (@ 167.23.240.33)
on: Thu Sep 14 15:30:28 EDT 2000
Adai kothavaal savadi budha,
unna innada sonnen, pichai eduthadhukku appala kuppai thottianda irukkira podhu kakkoosa kazhuva chonna, inge innathukkada vaiya vachchukkuttu thiriyira?
Enga akka maga rakkammavukku therinjadhu unna kakkoos kazhuvura vilakkamatthala parambi vuttuduva.
- From: Kothavaal Saavadi Buddhan (@ 216.65.106.130)
on: Fri Sep 15 02:39:10 EDT 2000
moodargale!
ennoda thiruvottoda magimaya purinjukkaama enna vellamo solreenga!
ennoda thiruvodu, matsushita'voda top secret project. ulagathula irukra ella pichaikarangalayum inaikarthu avangaloda thittam. ennoda thiruvodu athoda modhal prototype. kaasu vizhinthu, thaana ennoda swiss bank account'la digicash'a credit aayidum!
ivlo vishayam irukrappa, muniyamma panra velai laam naan panrathillai. naan kakkoos pakkam porathu onnukkum rendukkum mattum thaan. muniyamma, pothikittu un velaya paaru, hi-tech vishayathula thalayitta saami kanna nondidum.
endi muniyamma, ivlo pesariye, naa oru savaal vittene, athukku badhil solla vakku/thuppu illa, neyellam pesa vanthittiye! thamash ma.
Kothavaal Saavadi Buddhan
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