Topic started by bilfo-gilma (@ 62.7.26.22) on Sat Jan 20 03:39:44 EST 2001.
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Who's music is going to be better standing out of the two brothers. I personally feel YSR as KR hasn't produced anything of substance at all. WHat do you think?
Responses:
- From: Robin (@ 212.138.47.11)
on: Sat Jan 20 05:27:00 EST 2001
Both are the upcoming stars in TFM. But, as per the current trend, YSR is in top. After performing in Rishi and Dheena, he increased his fan's club. I feel he is giving the music this generation wants. The best part for him, many ARR admirers also supporting him. It is good for YSR. The main disadvantage for KR is the feeling in the people mind that he is following his father's foot steps. May be it is true. But KR also producing some unique music. Let us see some more time for his growth.
Robin
- From: vc (@ 202.144.64.4)
on: Sat Jan 20 08:33:53 EST 2001
YSR is far better than KR.
- From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.164.14)
on: Sat Jan 20 09:41:49 EST 2001
bilfo-gilma:
Kudumbathile Kulappam Undu Panriya...Yenappa Unakku intha velai??
- From: Theva (@ 142.156.1.223)
on: Mon Jan 22 18:25:16 EST 2001
YSR is definitely waaay beyond KR. Kartik Raja did some nice stuff in Ullasam. But I haven't noticed much of that again.
YSR's.. Poovellam Kettupar and Dheena are AWESOME! Also his "The Blast" sounds good.
- From: naan yaar (@ 161.142.100.85)
on: Mon Jan 22 20:20:06 EST 2001
YSR is better in a sense that his music adheres strictly to the current trend, especially to those 1st class MD's group like ARR & Vidhyasagar. Who knows, YSR may even be in top of the list one day? Time and luck will decide.
KR is a young genius. Hope I don't brag on this matter. Yes, KR has a lot of unique things for us. I think he needs excellent directors movies like KB and Maniratnam, who can utilized amazing talents of KR. Don't believe me..? JUST listen to Ennakana RaasA NeeTHaneY in Manickam. Listen now(if possible). KR has something really unique in him. Really unfortunate for him to miss good offers from grand banners.
People are wasting his efforts. "Vaanchinathan" for example. 'AMUL BABY', 'MUTHAMIDA' songs are something (but I admit, to a little extent only) different in terms of bits itself. And then the background score is by somebody else...extremely destroying the good music of KR. In toto, we feel the overall performance of KR in that movie is below average.
My idea is that if KR hit anything, it must be GOLD.
- From: wondering (@ 216.191.77.181)
on: Mon Jan 22 21:51:56 EST 2001
I have No-doubt about the talents of these two brothers. But recently one does more work than other. may be something dragging the other guy,Marriage! As you all know, he has delivered wonderful melodies in the past. Let's wait and see what's the next move of these guys!
- From: wondering (@ 216.191.77.181)
on: Mon Jan 22 21:57:20 EST 2001
I have No-doubt about the talents of these two brothers. But recently one does more work than other. may be something dragging the other guy,Marriage! As you all know, he has delivered wonderful melodies in the past. Let's wait and see what's the next move of these guys!
- From: T.R (@ 213.1.158.106)
on: Tue Jan 23 13:24:21 EST 2001
wondering, who are you referring to in marriage?YSR or KR? both are in this category!
- From: NagaS (@ 202.169.129.72)
on: Wed Jan 24 23:45:47 EST 2001
Listened to KR's latest Kannada Album (Couldn't remember the name, It is sooooooooo long)., Few songs are really good - Especially the one by Madhu Balakrishnan., (However, for me it remembers some song in IR's Kaalapaani ;-)
- From: Vaangenathan (@ 209.187.151.146)
on: Sat Jan 27 17:47:53 EST 2001
Guys,
Bought 'vAngenAthan' CD today. Eventhough I know that the songs are not great, I just wanted to give it a try. 'rendE kAlula mAnkutti' is mesmerizing. In couple of listenings, I am hooked to this song. Amazing song by KR!
- From: BPS (@ 38.32.76.188)
on: Fri Feb 2 20:22:06 EST 2001
Hi,
I am the webmaster of the official Sirkali Home Page. This is to inform fans of Drs. Sirkali that the web address has changed from
http://www.icdc.com/~sirkali (or w3)
to
http://www.sirkali.org
Please change your bookmarks to point to this new link.
Thank You very much,
Balaji Pratap Sirkali
http://www.sirkali.org
balaji_p_sirkali@hotmail.com
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189)
on: Sat Feb 3 17:53:31 EST 2001
Ullam Kollai Poguthe songs now available at http://www.vikadan.com or http://stsrinivasan.tripod.com/TamilSongs Click on YuvanShankar-KarthikRaja hits section.
Buy original CD to support KR.
- From: prabhudas (@ 207.122.19.252)
on: Sat Feb 3 22:54:15 EST 2001
Dear friends,
I have some good and bad news for those DF'ers who had discussed in a separate thread about Piracy/Internet music (MP3 formats in particurly), I just returned from India after a 4 week trip and in Madurai near old bus stand there are a number of Cassette/CD ,recording/Sales stores who are selling several volumes (IR's and KJY etc.., obviously I was interested in only IR's) of MP3 format recorded CD's with songs ranging anywhere from 155 to 165 songs and from 70's and 80's super hits of Maestro , many of which I am yet to find the original CD versions, the price range is between 130 Rs to 150Rs per CD.The songs are all encoded with minimum 128 bps and hence the quality is equalent to CD quality. I was so happy to find lots of old IR songs. I was just casually asking the shop owners about the response for the MP3 CDs from public, to my surprise the answer I got was that the MP3 CD sales have been there for the past 6 months but in the last 2 months the sales have picked up well especially the IR' collection and with the introduction of MP3 CD compatible players by some big companies like BPL (with CD/VCD/MP3 -6500 Rs) and Phillips (17000 RS. mini audio system), portable player by Phillips is 17500Rs, however the same is available here for 149 $.
One more open piracy which was shocking to me was the availability of all new releases of Tamil films in CD's (regular CD not MP3 coded)which are being recorded by rewritable CD writers and sold at 125 Rs/CD.Every new release by a big company like HMV/5 Star etc... is immediately on shelves in recoded format on CD-R's. One big combo which was selling like hot cake was Dheena and Friends, followed by Thenali with another junk like Thenali. Lots of other big hit combo's like "AP and KK" of ARR etc, all for 125 RS/CD.
(Apparently the whole gamut of this piracy business is being done under some Benami by none other than the TN CM's son in Madurai), If this was the scenario in Madurai, I was surprised to hear that this business is there in many parts of TN and Chennai the prices are even cheaper 80 Rs to 90Rs. I have discussed about Piracy/internet music in those respective threads earlier and hence do not want to repeat it,however I am still left with these two conclusions
1.If there were sources for getting the original CD's of the late 70'2 and 80's hits of IR I probably might not have been a patron for buying those rare IR hits MP3 (real rare gems of Mottai).
2.On the otherhand like any common man I wonder what big difference do the original company CD (HMV or whoever) Vs. these recoded CD-R's have when a common man get these recoded CDS (2 hit combos) at 125 Rs/CD as opposed to 375 Rs/cd (that too with single film or single film with some junk).
I am really confused....,
If
1. this is right by the big giants (Su****s) to sell the CDs at such a price (the contrast here again is almost 100% of the ARR and other MDs albums including the Biggest copy cat's son's album's launch are hyped by manufactures/Marketing and media people and end up spending lot of money inadvertantly on advertising, where as at the same time once in a while these kind of hype(when people like Kamalhasan etc are involved) and marketing is done by albums produced by IR and his Kins (big recent examples BHarathi, Friends, Dheena and Vaanjinaathan (inspite of three big stars(?) associated with the last three films), in other words these latter's album manufacturers did not spend unnecessary money in marketing them yet their prices ranged again from 300 Rs to 400 Rs.
2.Whether it is right on the part of common people to buy those pirated CDs of equal recording quality at a lower price.
3.Whether by doing so we are cheating the original musicians (I am talking exclusively about original composers like Maestro) for their extra ordinary efforts.
I do not have an easy answer in the current economy,
but for those who need more info on cheap and good portable MP3/CD disc players with a Car adapter kit, let me know I have more info.
By the way those MP3 collections of exclusive IR hits are just too ....... Good
Prabhu Das
Sorry guys , just trying to post in the threads with more traffic
- From: Teeya (@ )
on: Sat Mar 31 15:08:50 EST 2001
I love Yuvan....
- From: jj (@ 203.126.228.21)
on: Mon Apr 2 01:07:21 EDT 2001
Both peoples are useless MD.
- From: deva (@ 202.188.38.144)
on: Thu Apr 5 13:06:43 EDT 2001
yuvan music ilaingargalai kavarum music
konja naal topla irukkum appuram kanama poidum
kr music melodi music athavathu kalathai vellum music
- From: devadi (@ 213.1.137.5)
on: Thu Apr 5 15:49:41 EDT 2001
Yuvan music ilamaiaakavum, freshaaka irruku.Kaalathai vellum music. KR music, recycle panna ir music. Ippo yarume kavaravilla, eppovume kavaraathu.
- From: IsaiAdimai (@ 63.114.212.254)
on: Thu Apr 5 16:17:39 EDT 2001
devadi
people who like IR, still like KR. what else you want
- From: Analog (@ 12.105.88.34)
on: Thu Apr 5 16:36:04 EDT 2001
'sutrum bhoomi' definitely has IR's touch, so happy to listen to such a song after longtime. Percussion part of that song is just marvalous.
- From: notifier (@ 24.42.207.190)
on: Mon Apr 9 11:45:44 EDT 2001
check out preview of nandaa at www.tmcafe.com...features an impressive theme music by yuvan with shades of ir.
- From: aaress (@ 172.132.80.244)
on: Mon Apr 9 12:08:55 EDT 2001
Yuvan has a long way to go even to be compared to his Father or even his brother. kr 's numbers from dum dumd dum are very Ir in touch and treatment..particularly ragasiyamai..sounds very refreshing...
- From: kk (@ 172.168.114.16)
on: Fri Apr 13 21:14:12 EDT 2001
YSR seem to have come a long way. His Aravindan was very ameteur and disjoint. Recent Deena and other songs looks refined. Do any one else feel the same?
Though he doesnt follow IR, he shows quality on what he does.
- From: raja-visiri (@ 213.237.22.182)
on: Sat Apr 14 05:30:58 EDT 2001
It was very amazing to hear and see the NANDHA prewiev. You can feel the deferens between this movie and the other movies. (you can definetly feel the raja-touch in its music)
- From: Anand Mahadevan (@ 192.11.221.120)
on: Sat Apr 14 10:55:00 EDT 2001
Am surprised that neither YSR nor KR have imbibed any of their father's musical nuances.
I happen to hear DUM DUM DUM, a very average album considering that there were some catchy melodies.
Harmony layer was completely missing. YSR seems to concentrating on sound reproduction. Fundamentals clearly lacking.
Pathetic state of affairs for TFM.
- From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4)
on: Sat Apr 14 18:52:14 EDT 2001
Anand Mahadevan,
Could you elaborate your points more with some examples ? I am not questioning your judgement. I just want to have better appreciation of these two guys' music.
- From: Neel (@ 64.3.193.193)
on: Sun Apr 15 03:55:39 EDT 2001
YSR and KR spend more than half of their energy on catchy tunes. But their melodies still are very good. I wish they would focus more on melody. Anyhow I am happy to see the brothers doing well. They are bringing a change. I am tired of this decade long ARR brand mixes and Deva's gaanaas.
- From: Rahul (@ 202.144.64.131)
on: Tue Apr 17 09:52:55 EDT 2001
NONE. They are only enjoying the reap of IR. They have nothing on their own.
Their songs are B***S**t and when KR or YSR sings, it makes one feel 'what confidence IR has given them to give all these craps to tfm fans', (?whom he considers fools!).
They are definite to spoil IRs name. IR should better wake up and act fast.
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