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Hip Hip Hooray for Deva!

Topic started by NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on Mon Aug 18 06:21:34 EDT 1997.
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• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Fri Nov 21 01:07:43 EST 1997
  
  I have just read a review of the movie, Porkkaalam on our local afternoon English daily. Here is how the review ends:
  
  Deva who did the music for Cheran's first movie Bharathi Kannama, again handles the music in Porkkaalam. Deva is at his best and the more enchanting songs are Pattu seleh, Tanjavuru muniyarukitte and Karuvellaam kaatuvellam. That aside, Deva's background music score is simply remarkable and leaves the listeners' floating in a world where dreams seem to be a reality. I daresay this is one of the best music in Tamil movies, as it is simply nice to listen too.
  
  The above are NOT my views as I have neither seen the movie nor herd any of the songs.
  
  P/s: The movie is starred by Murali, Sangavi, Meena and Manivannan and according to the reviewer is a good movie.
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Fri Nov 21 21:57:26 EST 1997
  
  Yenna? Reaction-ei kaanum!
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Fri Nov 21 23:45:27 EST 1997
  
  > this is one of the best music in Tamil movies.
  
  This clearly tells us about his/her knowledge of TFM.
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Sun Nov 23 22:11:00 EST 1997
  
  NOV
  
  Deva did not introduce the phenomenon of copying Hindi songs (in fact, Veda did??) but only now, he has turned his head in that direction. Till recently, he was copying MSV and IR. In 'aasai' he started copying from English, as that was the trend intoduced by ARR. Now he has ventured into HFM too.
  
  'poRrkkaalam' has some rustic songs in it. It is defenitely a releif to hear them after so much of noise from ARR, Sirpi and Co. But still....best in TFM is too much.
  
  Rajaraman sonnathu oru vaasakam aannaalum thiruvaasagam.
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com) on: Mon Nov 24 18:24:20 EST 1997
  
  >>I daresay this is one of the best music in Tamil
  movies
  
  Yeah right!
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Dec 1 02:04:43 EST 1997
  
  Here is a news item I read in the latest Saavi issue:
  
  Deva's daughter is getting married to IR's elder brother,
  Bhasker's son. So Deva and IR are going to become
  sampandhees (sort of). Aduththu enna? Oru vELai
  oNNaa sErndhu sila padangaLukku music pOduvaangaLO?
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com) on: Mon Dec 1 17:35:18 EST 1997
  
  I am surprised (glad)to see Saavi (the Only mag
  to publish my one and only story) is still in existence..
  
  Nov is going to like this..
  
  I had been on a big road trip to Las Vegas with friends and I had the opportunity to listen to
  lots of new songs which included Nerukku Nerr..
  
  I knew most of the songs are not original
  (But Bob Marley's works have been redone many times by Eric Clapton.. So also by Deva. Deva gets
  a chance to be compared to Clapton.WOW!) but I
  ended up listening many times to Aval Varuvala and
  Manam Virumbuthey.. I was wondering what made the
  songs aurally attractive though the Orchestrations
  are nothing great (mostly repeat beats of ARR).
  Finally I came to a conclusion Deva packaged the
  song well the combination of Hariharan western/carnatic blend has come out sounding
  good.
  
  The lyrics are atrocious though. .. Pogum Floppy
  disk aval!(Aval Varuvala) Man this is so stupid. Just for the sake of introducing as many English words in the song to sound hep,people are writing absolute junk. What's Floppy Disk got to with Aval? The line coming right after this is not clear to me. If somebody can decipher it please post.. Nenjai allumm.......... Aval!
  
  
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Mon Dec 1 22:29:27 EST 1997
  
  Gokul
  
  I was waiting for someone to ask me this. The second line is 'nenjai aLLum dolby song avaL'. The first line, FYI, is 'speedai sellum floppy disk avaL'. The lyricist knew about 'Flying Disc' which flies with great speed. So he thought 'Floppy Disc' is something similar.
  
  When you can murder Tamil in Tamil songs, why can't you murder English? Let the massacare continue.
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Dec 2 00:24:37 EST 1997
  
  Paavam Gokul - innum nalla lyricsei ethirpaarththu kondirukkiraar! Who is actually bothered about lyrics these days? Have you heard Alps malai kaatru vanthu yennai thottathu by Hariharan and Bavatharani? Nice music and soon you will be singing along. Guess who else appears? Babylon, Michaelangelo, DTS sound system, etc. etc. In spite of all these the song is enjoyable:-))
  
  Satya - Deva kaattil ippoa mazhai peiygirathu. If IR wants to make a koottani, it has to be on Deva's terms :-)) (Just a joke guys, - don't come after me............)
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224) on: Mon Dec 1 20:56:59 EST 1997
  
  Gokul
  
  Ramki has analyzed these two songs(not joking)
  in another thread. I think the "pengalai
  varnikkum paadalgal" one.
  go take a look
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Tue Dec 2 00:20:39 EST 1997
  
  Paavam Gokul - innum nalla lyricsei ethirpaarththu kondirukkiraar! Who is actually bothered about lyrics these days? Have you heard Alps malai kaatru vanthu yennai thottathu by Hariharan and Bavatharani? Nice music and soon you will be singing along. Guess who else appears? Babylon, Michaelangelo, DTS sound system, etc. etc. In spite of all these the song is enjoyable:-))
  
  Satya - Deva kaattil ippoa mazhai peiygirathu. If IR wants to make a koottani, it has to be on Deva's terms :-)) (Just a joke guys, - don't come after me............)
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com) on: Tue Dec 2 17:06:05 EST 1997
  
  Who has written these songs in Nerukku Ner?
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate7.mot.com) on: Wed Dec 3 01:23:20 EST 1997
  
  None other than the great Vairamuthu !!!
  
  
• From: RAJAN (@ proxy-113.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on: Wed Dec 3 20:39:45 EST 1997
  
  B I O - D A T A
  ---------------
  PEYAR: DEVA
  
  VAYATHU: Hippi mudi valarkkum vayathalla
  
  THOLIL: xerox yeduppathu, isaiyai
  
  UBa-THOLIL:Avvappoathu soantha mettukkal
  
  NANBARKAL: Yellorum
  
  ETHIRIKAL: Originalai kandupidippavarkal
  
  PIDITHTHA IDAM: Recording theater
  
  PIDITHTHA PADAM: Rajini
  
  PIDITHTHA VAARTHAI: Ulta
  
  NAMBUVATHU: Sagothararkalai mattum
  
  NAMBAATHATHU: alattalai
  
  POLUTHUPOAKKU: Meadai katcherigal
  
  ORE YERICHCHAL: Isaiyil ankigaram kidaikaathathu
  
  ORE AASAI: IR kudumbaththil sambantham
  
  NEENDA KAALA SASDHANAI:No.1 Isayamaippaalar(tamil) --------------------------------------------------
  Ref: KUMUDAM dated 11/27/97
  
  
• From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Mon Dec 8 02:01:13 EST 1997
  
  Ondrei maranthu vittaargal!
  
  TFM-IL INDRU: No. 1
  
  and nothing else matters......
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com) on: Wed Dec 10 03:30:28 EST 1997
  
  Nov..
  
  What is the basis of your rating him NO.1?
  
  If it is based only on the number of movies he scores then he is definitely numero uno.But There is something called Quality..(sigh!)
  
  I do not know how Deva derives satisfaction out of
  his work.
  
  I happened to watch Kaalamellam Kathal Vazhga!
  supposedly a rip off on Kathal Kottai. Deva has
  got real guts for attempting to sing a dappanguthu
  and a pathos version of some song. His voice is
  IMHI,is so pathetic.. I cried during the pathos song but I also ended up crying in the dappanguthu
  song (andaalu!!).
  
  Yaaravudu Deva'vvu eduthu sollannum polarukke!
  
  
• From: Nithin Sreedevan (@ nc.pr.mcs.net) on: Sun Dec 14 17:00:46 EST 1997
  
  I think Deva is becoming a butt of various jokes. But he is like one of us, if you don't realise. He has been a fan of Raja all his life.
  
  He is easily the best fan IR has ever seen, because this man has atleast composed film music, while we are sitting in different parts of the world, figuring out how far we can go with our exisitng professions, we have Mr. Deva, the not so Raga Devan, but the Devaadi Deva, who has given us folks in the absence of the great Raga Devan, great songs.
  
  Look at that Rajni Song, Autokaran, Autokaran, naan naalum therincha autokaran, nalavanga route karan, etc. It not only describes our city's Auto drivers during a typical frustrating day, but also Mr. Deva. ?! What I mean is, that song is just a total surprise, I can't find any composition of even IR matching the pace and melody of that song.
  
  Even more surprising is the final words of the song: Aachukku, Gummikku, aah, aachukku ina achakku than, aah gummikku ina gummikku than. Fantastic. Super o super.
  
  Please let us give him due respect and credit. Please don't read any humor in the analogy. What I mean Deva is really talented and we must recognize that.
  
  
• From: Bhaskar (@ dutyfree.proxy.lucent.com) on: Mon Dec 15 18:10:46 EST 1997
  
  Very late to this topic:
  
  Gokul:
  
  Andha lines from Nerukku Ner
  
  
  Smmothai sellum floppy disk aval
  Nenjai allum dolby sound aval
  
  
  Also see Ramki's explanation to those songs in
  
  Thalaiva NOV:
  
  
  Alps malai kaatru vandhu nenjai koosudhee
  BBC seidhi ellam nammai pesudhee is really a catchy tune from Sirpi who knows from which English song it is :))) Bhavatharini has really sung the song very well. Claps to her :)
  
  Gokul:
  
  I am reposting Ramki's explanation once again it is real fun to read :)))))
  
  
  ...........................
  
  Instant sambhar,instant vadai madhiri oru instant
  kaadhal(!)pathi recenta 'nerukku ner'padathilirindhu iru suvaiyana paadalgal
  
  "Manam virumbudhey"(Unnik and harini are the singers-variamuthu is the lyricist)
  
  song starts like this
  
  'manam virumbudhey unnai unnai
  manam virumbudhey
  urangaamalae kannum kannum
  sandai podudhe'
  
  As i have not seen the guess i think the hero sings abt his 'love at first sight 'experience
  
  'ninaithaale sugam thaanadi
  nenjil un mugam thaanadi'
  
  Ippo dhan avarukku ennamo jnabagam varudhu
  
  'aiyayoo marandhenadi un peyare theriyadhadi'
  
  (kandavudan kaadhalallava?)
  
  eppidi kaadhal pirakkiradhu avarukku?koorugirar avar:
  
  'adada nee oru parvai parthai
  azhagai dhan oru punnagai poothai
  adhu nenjil oru minnal vettiyadhu'
  
  sirippile mayangittaru polum
  
  'adhile naanum theliyum munne'
  
  idhu enne kudi bodhaiya theliyarthukku??
  
  'anbae undhan azhagu mugathai yaar vandhu
  ila maarbil ottiyadhu'
  
  Hero aedho fevicol companyle work panraar polirukku:)
  
  ippo parunga menmaiyaane kaadhalai eppidi solraarnu
  
  'puyal vandhu veesiya vanamai aanadhadi en ullam'
  
  idhuvadhu ok next line dhan bejar
  
  'nee vandhu karam vaithu parthal theriyum adi
  en ullam'
  
  puyal adikkira manasile karam vaithu parthal adhu
  enne'vanga kadalil maiyam kondirundha puyal karaiayai kadandhuvittadhu'endra solla
  pogiradhu?
  Kavignar enne koorugirar endre puriyavillai.
  
  Paadalai thodarvom:)
  
  manam aengudhe
  meendum kaane(idhu acceptable)
  
  next stanza innum contradictorya irukkum
  
  'mazhaiyodu naan karaindhadhuillai
  veyillodu naan urugiyadhillai
  paarai pol en ullam irundhadhadi '
  
  ennamo mathavanga ellam mazhaiyiliyum veyilleyum
  karaiyara madhiri solraar?
  
  enakku piditha varigal ippo dhan varudhu
  
  'malaikkattu karumbaarai mele
  thalai kaattum siru poovai pole
  polladha ilam kaadhal poothadhadi'
  
  kaadhalakku vidhyasamana explanation.
  
  next linekettu sirikkadheenga pls
  
  'chattendru salanam varum endru jaadagathil
  sollalaiye'
  
  Avaro paarai pole irundhavaru aanal indha line partha salanam varuma,mayakkam varuma
  endru dhinam
  jaadhagathai parkka josiyaridam oduvaar polirukku
  
  'netru varai kaadhal varum endru nenjodu ninaikkaliye'
  
  'en kaadhali'
  
  .................(indha irandu varigal ennevendru
  Unnik,Harini,deva Vairamuthuvai ketkanum.Naanum oru 5-6 times rewind panni ketten
  but onnum puriyallai)
  
  Ivvalavu muranpaadugal irundhum suvaiyaana paadal:)
  
  Now coming to the second song..
  
  'aval varuvaala'(shahul hameed and Hari -v.Muthu)
  
  This song also sounds like an explanation to
  'love at first sight'.Let us see the lyrics
  
  'aval varuvaala
  en udaindhu pone nenjai otta vaikka aval varuvaala'(Vmuthukku fevicol mele enne
  ivvalavu
  patro theriyavillai
  
  'en pallamaana ullam vellamaagida varuvaala'
  
  I couldnt really understand the above line.Yaaravadhu vilakkam tharuveengala??
  
  'kannodu naan kanda vannangal poga
  "churidharil'moodadha baagangal vazhga'
  
  Churidharil moodadha baagangal dhar avar kannukku therinjirkkanum.pinne edharkku
  idhukku 2 line??
  
  'kattazhagai kandavudan kannillai mayakkam'
  vellai anu sivappanu rendum sandai pidikkum'
  
  Kaadhalukku biological explanation partheengala??
  
  adharkku nayaganin nanbar koorugirar
  
  'kaadhalukku idhu dhan parambarai vazhakkam'
  
  (anubavam jasthi polirukku)
  
  'thirudi chendre ennai thiruppi tharuvaala
  thedi varuvaala'
  
  Next line is really a damaging statement
  
  'aanai vida pennukke unarchigal adhigam..varuvaale'
  
  pengalae innuma chumma irukkenga?'vMuthu ozhiga'appidinnu banner edhuthuttu
  vmuthu veetu munnale mariyal pannae vendam??
  
  'aval oara parvai en uyirai'urinjiyadhai'arivaala
  arivaala'
  
  ippo dhan puriyudhu avar pennai love pannalai
  aedho 'ratha katteriyai love panraarnnu.
  
  Next pallavile solrraru
  
  'aezhu pathu mani varai illai indha mayakkam'
  
  7-10 maniya alladhu 7.10 maniya??adhu enne kaadhal time parthu dhan
  varuma??pudhumaiya ille?
  
  'idhayathil vedi onnu vittu vittu vedikkum'
  
  Kaadhal panlaamnu ninaikkiravan kooda indha madiri
  varnanai ellam kettu bayandhruvaan. kaadhal uyrai
  urunjudham.vedi vedikkidhaam.ivar dhan ippadinna
  nanban innum mosam
  
  'poga poga innum por puyal vandhu adikkum'
  
  kaadhalai Vmuthuvaal dhan ivvalavu kodooramaga
  varnikka mudiyum
  
  'avalai partha pinne nilavum inikkavillai'(nilavu enne choclata inikkarthukku?)
  
  'malargal pidikkavillai'
  
  nanbar ennamo 'undu urru...... aimpulanum pennidathil irukku'appdingraaru.
  en siriya moolaikku avar enne solraarne puriyalai
  
  paadalai nayagan ippidi mudikkiraar
  
  'naan boomi mele vandhu pirandhadarkku porul
  irukku porul irukku'
  
  so andha ratha katteriyai kandu kaadhal panna
  than avar boomi mele jananam eduthirkkar polum.
  
  
  
  Sorry for the lengthy post but couldnt resist commenting on the above 2 songs
  
  
• From: sathya (@ client-151-200-125-252.bellatlantic.net) on: Tue Dec 30 02:37:49 EST 1997
  
  Hi,
  All Ilayaraja Fans are indebted to Deva. Many good songs of Raja have been overshadowed by his extraordinary songs. So we do not know many of his good songs. Deva is right there to fulfill our wishes. He collects those songs and give them to us in a different cup. Ultimately you can see Raja in Deva's music. What else a Raja's fan can expect from Deva? He may not be a good composer. But he is still the best copier. In our practical life we understand that a "Copier machine" is inevitable. He is an expert in copying. Do you think copying is easier? It is something Raja could not do and Deva can do!!! If everybody starts composing on their own then they may become Raja. So do not curse Deva if he copies.
  
  sathya
  
  

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