Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.
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- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210)
on: Thu May 30 03:23:06 EDT 2002
Saran,
Don't worry, they will dubb the add to tamil and put some 'crazy' lyrics ... :-)
I think they can stick the same old 'puththamputhu kaalai' lyrics (Vairamuthu's) with SJ's voice ... would suit the Ad. also ...
vidunga sir, naama ninaikkaRathellaam nadanthuduthaa enna ?
NagaS
- From: suresh (@ 202.88.155.34)
on: Thu May 30 03:24:38 EDT 2002
NagaS, I did. Have you also noticed the Hindi 'Sadma' version of 'KaNNE kalaimAne' being hummed by the actor in the LG air-conditioner ad?
- From: Nane than (@ 203.197.138.199)
on: Thu May 30 04:13:21 EDT 2002
NagaS
Tamil version is already there in SunTV..same old 'puththamputhu kaalai' lyrics only
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210)
on: Thu May 30 04:17:30 EDT 2002
Hei Suresh,
Which AD you are talking about ?
I hear some 'Thaiya Thaiyaa' in the BGM of Pepsi Ad which shah rukh and karishman kapoor feature with a pop singer (adnan sami ? yaarppaa athu ?)
Nanethan,
Thanks a lot for the info ... I would love to hear the tamil versionn ...... will hit Suntv tonight and wait ! :-)
NagaS
- From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67)
on: Thu May 30 04:30:52 EDT 2002
NagaS,
I think one particular advt agency is doing all these ads. There is a series of Britannia biscuit ads, using 3-4 old Tamil songs (IR & MSV) and I remember seeing few more ads - one for chappal, etc.
Anybody else noticed this new trend in the advt arena?
- From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67)
on: Thu May 30 04:33:47 EDT 2002
I think I also saw an advt using 'Senthoorappove... sillendra katre' (maybe for ACs).
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210)
on: Thu May 30 05:49:22 EDT 2002
Venkatesh,
If this is a 'trend', I welcome it :-)
NagaS
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Thu May 30 06:13:28 EDT 2002
NagaS,
If this trend continues U wont have an ARR emerging out:-)...
Happa sandaiya thuvakki vechaachu...Narayana!narayana!
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210)
on: Thu May 30 06:24:12 EDT 2002
Ram,
ithaanee veNaamngaRathu ....
:-)
To be serious, More than the 'copy' or whatever these admakers did, I was pretty surprised to see an IR tune in a 'national' advertisement ... IR is supposed to be a failure in north, Isn't it ?
NagaS
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Thu May 30 06:41:59 EDT 2002
IR was hit in North...courtesy Nadeem-Shravan:-)
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Thu May 30 06:58:03 EDT 2002
>>>Anybody saw the latest Advertisement for Kissan FruitKick ? (During yesterdays India - WI Cricket Match ...)
I too saw it an felt deeply offended. I initially thought that they simply riped of the tune. But, these seems to be apattern. The "Kanne kalai mane" song, "chinna chinna asai" and this one...seems that some good brain is these in some AD agency.
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Thu May 30 06:58:30 EDT 2002
>>>Anybody saw the latest Advertisement for Kissan FruitKick ? (During yesterdays India - WI Cricket Match ...)
I too saw it an felt deeply offended. I initially thought that they simply riped of the tune. But, these seems to be apattern. The "Kanne kalai mane" song, "chinna chinna asai" and this one...seems that some good brain is there in some AD agency.
- From: v (@ 212.72.11.67)
on: Thu May 30 07:32:50 EDT 2002
refresh
- From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.231)
on: Fri May 31 01:28:20 EDT 2002
AR and VM is fighting.
http://www.sify.com
- From: Ram (@ 63.161.26.234)
on: Fri May 31 02:19:50 EDT 2002
SPM,Ithukkum IR's Latest kkum enna sambandham?...I dont intend to do personal attacks...we all hail Raja does that mean that we should feel happy when Rahman Falls?....doesn't that look mean????
- From: Thirudargal Oyvathillai (@ 172.141.242.52)
on: Fri May 31 02:22:30 EDT 2002
Good morning, vanakkam, good morning... illey namma ARR made ad tunes to film songs. Puthum Puthu Bhoomi Vendum, Kaalayil Narasoos Caafee vendum........
Now, they are turning the table other way. Puthum Puthu Kaalai... not just turning the table around, but also the breakfast. From NesCaafee to Kissan Jam with almost similar copyright ingredients. kadavuley, yenna seyya pokkirai not bad besh besh pannattum pannattum......
- From: nojalra (@ 202.9.144.18)
on: Sat Jun 1 00:52:44 EDT 2002
'IVAN' audio release tomorrow at chennai.
- From: cheithi (@ 202.86.171.13)
on: Sat Jun 1 02:15:10 EDT 2002
'Ennai Enna Seithai' Sung by Sudha Ragunathan for IVAN is an amazing song...It will be a super duper hit...for sure.
Parthipan is releasing the audio on the birthday(June 02) of Maestro Ilayaraaja.
- From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67)
on: Sat Jun 1 04:28:27 EDT 2002
I dont like Ilayaraja's music - writer Charu Nivedita
www.vikatan.com/vc/2002/may/vc0314.shtml
- From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67)
on: Sat Jun 1 04:40:10 EDT 2002
Previous article on this by Charu Nivedita:
www.vikatan.com/vc/2002/may/vc0311.shtml
- From: :-| (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Sat Jun 1 04:43:52 EDT 2002
whoever that is, it's just an individual's opinion...and one shud give only that much importance that it deserves....i choose to ignore.
- From: :-| (@ 128.107.253.40)
on: Sat Jun 1 04:44:40 EDT 2002
and who's this charu nivedita ?? some pseud like that kamala das ???
- From: vel (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Sat Jun 1 04:51:22 EDT 2002
:-) Venkatesh
No problem...its a matter of personal preference..In this context, i wud like to mention one incident...When IR finished composing 'raajavin ramanamaalai', and the album was ready to be released, many wished to go for a full fledged marketing effort..IR declined such a move saying,"Idhu poi sera vendiya idangalai thedi aduvaaga poi cherum...vilambaram vendam". I think we can apply that to all raja's songs in general :-)
[In "vanathu tharagaiyyo, yaarival dhevadhaiyyo" there is a line - "idhu ellorkkum kidaikkaadha geedham..."...charu nivedita is unlucky :-)]
- From: charulatha evanda avan (@ 172.136.206.235)
on: Sat Jun 1 04:54:00 EDT 2002
charu nivedita must be a born again something or he must be endowed with a brain of the one of early mammals
- From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.67)
on: Sat Jun 1 06:58:18 EDT 2002
vel,
rightly said, I agree with you fully.
- From: jaypee (@ 203.197.134.18)
on: Sat Jun 1 08:59:43 EDT 2002
I have noted an interesting characterstic of IR in the mid and late 90's.ie an film personalities who have given 1 0r 2 hits without IR's music ( SAR, Sirpy, Deva et al)ultimately failed when used IR or his family for his next movie.
few examples :
1)Cheran : Bharathi Kannama, Porkaalam (Deva) hits
Desiaya Geetham (IR) flop
2) Parthiban : Puthyia padhai (Chandrabose ) hit
Pondatti thevai (his second film) flop
3) Sundar C : Ullathai Allitha , Mettukudi ( Sirpy) hits
NAm iruvar NAmakku Iruvar (Karthik raja)
4) K.s.Ravikumar : Puriyatha Puthir ( SAR) , Cheran Pandiayan (Soundaryan) hits
Sakthivel ( IR ) Flop
5) Prabudeva : Indu ( Deva), Kadhalan (ARR) hits
Rasaiya (IR ) flop
6) Vijay : Senthurappandi, Rasigan,Deva,Vishnu (alll hit by deva)
Chandralekha (vijay and vanitha vijaya kumar, remember?) was a flop
can some one add more to this list?
- From: Silly Despots (@ 172.180.206.50)
on: Sat Jun 1 10:03:47 EDT 2002
wrt, Charu Nivedita's article,
one doesn't have to make a sensational negative statement to get noticed. If he had given the title as 'i like Nasret Fateh Ali Khan or L.Subramaniam, I wonder how many would have been keen to read the article. In the end when he talks about why he likes L Subbu or Nasret, you wonder if the purpose of the article was to tell the world what he likes or if it is just throwing popular names to justify his dislike for IR. He doesn't come across as someone who has much knowledge in music and if you ask me, the main purpose of this article is to be sensational, provoke and in turn get some attention.
- From: prabhakar (@ 195.93.50.189)
on: Sat Jun 1 17:12:49 EDT 2002
dear jaypee,
both your observations and deductions are wrong. although a part of your observations may be correct, they are only statistical coincidence, rather than anything else.
first of all, we have to decide if you are talking about hit of music alone or the movie. Then we have to talk about whether the music was responsible for the failure of movies. and then, whether the said persons gave hit after these movies
1. Cheran- i accept that the first two movies were hits. desiya geetham definitely had good songs and it was a movie which was as good as the previous movies as well. the reason of its failure, was that although the movie was made with good intentions, the cm in the movie was made to resemble a living cm and thus he antagonised that whole party. everyone knows, that cherans career was derailed after this movie because of politis and he had to suffer a lot before coming up. his subsequent movies with deva and vidyasagar were not great hits
2.parthiban- the movie after that, sugamana sumaigal(chandrabose) was a disaster and the movie after that ulle vezhiye(ilayaraja) was parthibans biggest hit till date.
3. sundar c has given many flops before that two movies and after nam iruvar and namakku iruvar. the songs of this movie were very nice and were hits. the movie was a flop
4. puriyadha pudhir, was definitely not a hit
5. indhu was not a hit. kadhalan was a hit. rasaiyas songs (masthana, kadhal vanile) were hits. and subsequent prabhu devas films were all flops.
6. the films rasigan, deva and vishnu were semi porn movies made by sa chandrasekar for his son. and chandralkeha was a movie which did not confirm to this trend . so it was a flop. music was not the reason
so your findings are not consistent and they have nothing to do with ilayarajas familys music. the music was good. the films were failure for other reasons
- From: S.P Mahendran (@ 161.139.38.51)
on: Sun Jun 2 00:08:36 EDT 2002
Happy Birthday to our Maestreo Ilaiyaraja.
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