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Topic started by Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on Thu May 15 21:11:23 EDT 1997.
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From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Thu May 15 21:20:33 EDT 1997

Have you watched the song "Thaen unnum vandu
maamalarai kandu"(Amara deepam)? I happen to
watch yesterday on SUN TV. The male voice is
given by A.M. Raja as you know. I was quite
surprised to know he has sung for Sivaji Ganesan!
I couldn't help laughing after seeing this scene.
Later I realised howmuch we associate TMS'
voice with Sivaji(and MGR too). I wish to know if you
have seen any such unusual combinations.
The other one I recollect is "vadivelan manasu vachaan"
from Thaayillamanl naanillai. Kamal sings this
song in the movie. Voice: TMS.

-R
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Thu May 15 21:58:40 EDT 1997

Hasn't Chandra Babu sung for Sivaji in one film?
Kalyaanam panniyum Brahmachari?

I find Ilayaraja singing for Rajini and other heroes unusual. His voice suits Janakraj and Murali. :).

Ofcourse Seerkaazhi has sung for MGR. I am not sure whether you want to consider that unusual. The movie is chakkravarthi thirumagal. The song is pretty famous too, but I cannot recall it.
From: Ravi. (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Thu May 15 23:19:35 EDT 1997

In a related vein - has Ilayaraja ever sung for Kamal or Prabhu? I cannot recall any song immediately. I know that he has sung for the other top heroes - Rajini, Satyaraj, Vijaykanth, Karthik etc. All these should rank as instances of unusual pairings. :)
From: Ramki (@ maine.proteq.com.sg) on: Fri May 16 01:17:04 EDT 1997

Regding Ilaiyaraja singing for kamal - In 16
vayadhinile the song 'solam vidhakkaiyile'comes
in the back ground(when the titles are shown
with Kamal in the scene).

Raja has sung a song
for Prabhu in 'en uyir kannama'( i dont remember
the song)

Now coming to the main topic:

PBS,AMRaja and Sirgazhi has sung for MGR. Paasam
has a good song by PBS(paal vannam paruvam kandu)
and if im not wrong 'thirudadhe'also has a song
by PBS(en arugil nee irundhal).

Hey wat abt SPB singing for Sivaji?I find it quite
odd too
From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Fri May 16 07:08:55 EDT 1997

As far as I remember Ilayaraja sings the song poompaarayil pottu vaitha poonkuruvi in en uyir kannamma. But that song comes in the background and doesn't count as having sung for Prabhu, just as sOLam vidhaikkayilE doesn't count as having sung for Kamal.
From: Ravi. (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Fri May 16 07:10:39 EDT 1997

Take a look at the next topic in discussion too. :)
From: Sathya Kabali (@ ppp-9.ts-3.hp.idt.net) on: Fri May 16 18:47:17 EDT 1997

A.M.Raja has sung for M.G.R.
Mayakkum mAlaip pozuthE nE pO pO:Gulebagavali.
mAsilA uNmaik kAthalE mARumO selvam vantha pOthilE-Alibabavum 40 thirutargalum.
From: Thenraja Kaliappan (@ 167.193.67.217) on: Mon May 19 08:00:26 EDT 1997

A song in this category I could think of is MSV's "siva sambo" from 'Ninaithaale Inikkum' for Rajinikanth.

I do not know if ChandraBabu has sung for Sivaji, but there is one song where another playback singer has given voice for ChandraBabu - K.J. Yesudas in 'Parakkum Paavai' with TMS and LR Eswari - "sugam yethile ethayathilaa"
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Mon May 19 18:02:29 EDT 1997

If you want to match voices to actors, I think that concept in gone in Rehman's era, where singers like Suresh Peters, UnniKrishnan have sung for actors which do not match their voices.
From: Satish Subramanian (@ cs-line14.cs.umn.edu) on: Mon May 19 21:17:31 EDT 1997

Udit Narayan for Rajni!! Anything to beat that?

Thalaivarku andha paatula super lines: "katchi ellaam ippo nammakku edhukku? kaalaththin kaiyil adhu irukku!" adha kOlai punnittaan Udit!
padu paavi.
From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Mon Jun 16 16:22:42 EDT 1997

Chandra Babu sang for Sivaji in Kalyanam Panniyum Brahmachari. The song is 'Jolly Life Jolly Life, Thaali kattina jolly life' with Sivaji and TRRamachandran romping on screen.

By the way are any of you guys TRRamachandran fan ? I am a big fan of his. (BPB, Sabapathi, Manamagan Thevai etc).
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Thu Jun 19 20:37:02 EDT 1997

Yes.. I too like TRR. Adutha veettu pen, kathaanaayaki.
In the latter, he comes as a comic researcher. kalakki
iruppaar.
From: Gopal Prasad (@ host-207-53-0-227.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Fri Jun 20 22:53:31 EDT 1997

Hey, I too like TRR (mostly for his Thiruttu Muzhi !!) and love the songs in A V Penn. One is Maalayil Malar Solayil and what is the other one?? TRR would sing proxy.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Fri Jun 20 23:07:11 EDT 1997

There are three such songs in A V Penn. The
other two are

kangalum kavi paaduthe
kannaale pesi pesi kollaathe

What a way PBS has sung the last one!
From: Ravi Chandran (@ eagle.vapower.com) on: Mon Jun 23 11:40:17 EDT 1997

C.S Jayaraman (fondly called as Mayana Bagavdhar) has sung for Sivaji in Pudhayal.
Also when Yesudas sang for Sivaji for the first
time in Dr.Siva (malarae kurinji malarae) it sounded a bit odd. (later he sang quite a few
for sivaji (kavarimaan etc).

Ravi C
From: Padmanabhan Ganesan (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Mon Jun 23 13:11:04 EDT 1997

Can anybody beat this ?

Sri Vidya for Disco Shanti !

Song - Sandhai Bajaaru
Mama Konjam Usharu
Film - Vigneshwar (I Think).

When SriVidya was asked to sing a song, she was supposedly thrilled and had assumed that it would be a classical song. After all she was the daughter of MLV. She got quite a shock when she learnt that the song was a total vamp tappanguthu song for Disco Shanti.

It was too late to back out and she went ahead and sang the song !
From: Pagalavan Krishnamoorthy (@ mb.cisco.com) on: Mon Jun 23 19:41:18 EDT 1997

"sandha bajaaru" song by Srividya is from
"Amaran". In the same film, Karthik himself
has sung a song too..
From: Ramki (@ maine.proteq.com.sg) on: Tue Jun 24 00:25:13 EDT 1997

I dont think Srividya was unhappy with that song.
Listen to her recent 'pop'song 'jallilo jimkaana
jollilo jamkhana aeripoo merry go round dhaana'
under the same Aadhithyans music
From: Pagalavan Krishnamoorthy (@ mb.cisco.com) on: Tue Jun 24 01:43:48 EDT 1997

Talking of unusual voices, there is this song
"naan enbathu nee allavO dEva dEvi.." in film
"soora samhaaram". This excellant duet is sung
by Arunmozhi and Chitra. Arunmozhi has sung for
Kamal..
From: Ramani Raghavan (@ guardian.tekedge.com) on: Mon Jun 30 15:24:56 EDT 1997

Somebody had asked if SPB had sung for Shivaji. Ofcourse yes.. Who can forget 'Pooppoley Un Punnagayil" in Kavarimaan and 'Kaalam Maaralaam Nam Kaadal Maarumo ?' in Vaazhkai (Shivaji with Ambika). I will write more songs when I remember.
From: Suresh R. Mani (@ slip129-37-207-241.in.us.ibm.net) on: Tue Jul 1 22:19:10 EDT 1997

How about Pottu vaitha Mugamo from 'Sumathi en Sundari', 'Yamuna Nadhi inge' from Gowravam, I could name more where SP sings for Shivaji. I would think SP singing for Thengai Srinivasan ( is that right !) in 'Anbe Sangitha' (Chinna Puraa ondru) was rather odd !.
Did SP sing for Suruli Rajan in Veetukku veedu Vaasappadi ?.
From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Wed Jul 2 05:12:40 EDT 1997

SPB for suruli song is "konjam othungu naan thaniyaa pesanum unnoda". Only SPB could've sung it so well.
It's from a not-so-famous movie.
From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Wed Jul 2 18:43:18 EDT 1997

vinnodum mugilodum vizhaiyadum vennivale - this song was sung by mayaan baagavadhar chidambaram jeyaraman for Sivaji. This voice was quite unusual and did not suit Sivaji.

Masthana Masthana - This song was sung by Bavatharini in the film "Rasaiyya". It did not suit
actress Roja as the voice seemed to be very immatured for her.
From: dhamodaran (@ ww-te02.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jul 5 11:42:18 EDT 1997

SPB also sang for Sivaji in "Raja"
Irandil onru nee ennidam sollu
ennai ivittu veru yaaru unnai thoduvar
From: Kanchana (@ ww-te42.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Jul 11 20:39:40 EDT 1997

Other C.S. Jayaraman songs for Shivaji:
"Aayiram Kann Podhadhu Vanna Kiliyae" and "Kaaviyamaa Nenjil Oviyamaa" both from Ahilan's "Paavai Vilakku"
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Jul 11 22:00:02 EDT 1997

To cp:

Oh, you think CSJeyaraman singing for Sivaji was
unusual. Sivaji felt exactly the opposite way
when, in those early days of Sivaji's career,
CSJ used to be the "accepted" ghost voice for
Sivaji in his first several movies (Parasakthi,
Anbu, Paavai Vilakku, Pudhayal etc.). When, in
the movie, "Thookku Thookki", the MD, G Ramanathan
wanted to introduce the young TMS to sing for
Sivaji, it seems Sivaji was very annoyed and
felt that changing from CSJ to TMS would not
be accepted by the audience and so the movie
might flop. But, somehow GR convinced Sivaji
and went ahead with TMS. Perhaps because of this
challenge, GR put-in special effort for that
movie, and TMS sang with a special "gaNeer"
voice, and the movie became a big hit, the
music and songs being important reasons.
Everyone can guess what happened after that:
CSJ had to leave way for TMS in all Sivaji
movies; of course, Viswanathan-Ramamurthy had
a special attachment for TMS and so TMS grew
nicely in that environment after that.

No one mentioned KJJ singing for MGR. I thought
that was quite odd!
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Jul 11 22:40:10 EDT 1997

Except the comment about SriVidya singing for
Disco, all of us have been giving examples
of male singers-actors combination only. Why
is it that we accept, in general, any female
singer singing for any actress? For example,
even though S Janaki used to be the "usual"
ghost-voice for Vijayakumari, P Susheela singing
for her was also accepted and no one felt it
was unusual in any way. What is the reason for
this?
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Fri Jul 11 23:02:13 EDT 1997

KJJ and Jeyachandran have sung for Jaishankar in
Oru kodiyil iru malargal: kannanin sannidhiyil
endhan kanmani punnagaiyil is the song. If you
think SPB singing for Jaishankar/Gemini Ganesan/
Ravichandran is odd then a number of examples
can be listed.

I feel Kamal singing for himself is odd. Any
opinions?
From: Kanchana (@ ww-tb22.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jul 12 22:06:08 EDT 1997

Why do you think Kamal singing for himself is odd? Starting from "Ninaivo oru paravai" in "Sigappu Rojakkal" to "Inji Iduppazhagi" in "Devar Magan" to "Marugo Marugo" in "Sadhi Leelavathy", he seems to have done an excellent job.
From: Ravi (@ hb-tl02.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 13 01:08:02 EDT 1997

The first time Kamal sang for himself was in "Andharangam" - Gnayiru
oLi mazhayil..
From: Ravi (@ hb-tl02.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 13 01:10:35 EDT 1997

The first time Kamal sang for himself was in
"Andharangam" - Gnayiru oLi mazhayil
From: cp (@ host-207-53-1-99.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Sun Jul 13 16:11:42 EDT 1997

I feel that Kamal's voice is very different and good. His voice will only suit him and not any one.
From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Sun Jul 13 22:35:38 EDT 1997

I still find no comments on female singers singing for
actresses. If you take LR Eswari, I think her
voice doesn't suit any actress (except, say for
"thodaiyazhagi" CID Sakunthalaa, in all those
cabaret songs). Examples:

1. LRE humming for Saroja Devi in "kallellaam
maaNikka kallaagumaa" (aalaya maNi)
2. LRE humming for KR Vijaya in "pavaLa kodiyilE
muththukkaL pOttaal" (paNam padaiththavan)
3. LRE singing for Kanchana in "pattaththu raaNi"
(sivandha maN)
4. LRE singing for Padmini in "kadavuL thandha
iru malargaL" (iru malargaL)
5. LRE singing for Jeyapradha in NinaiththaalE
inikkum. (song starting "aanandha ...")

But somehow, LRE singing for Jeyalalitha seems to
be quite suiting; in fact, LRE sang a number of
songs for J in many MGR movies for which MSV was
the MD, and all those songs were good hits.

And then, what about P Susheela singing for
Ramaprabha in "veNNilaa nEraththilE vENugaanam"
(avasara kalyaaNam), MS Rajeswari singing
for Savithri in "kaakkaa kaakkaa mai koNdaa"
(Mahadevi), and P Susheelaa singing for Kutti
Padmini in Kuzhandhaiyum Dheivamum? Can we make
a lst of such odd combinations?
From: shanmugam (@ klg-57-209.tm.net.my) on: Mon Jan 12 08:35:56 EST 1998

it was great reading your articles,
something unusual but interesting
From: Arvind (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Jul 14 05:55:33 EDT 1998

Shahul Hameed sang for Sathyaraj in the song "Senthamizh naattu thamizhachiye" from Vandi Cholai Chinrasu. I rate this as one of the most unusual (atrocious) combinations.

In fact, ARR makes some of the worst combinations of singers for actors. Actually, I don't think he selects the singers for a song, on the basis of the actors. He just selects them on the basis of the song, no matter on whom it is picturized.

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