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Songs with similar lines

Topic started by aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on Wed Sep 3 20:06:06 EDT 1997.
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• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Wed Sep 3 20:13:52 EDT 1997
  
  kanavil unai nAn chErndhida imaiyE thadaiyA
  
  in suttum vizhich chudarp pArvaiyilE in Prison and
  
  uRakkamum enakkillai kanavugaL illaiyE
  
  in nalamaRiya Aval in kAdhal kOttai, as you can
  see are exact in their message. And both sound
  beautiful to me. Any similar pairs, sets?
  
  (I would like to leave out the rAjA rAjAdhi rAjan
  intha rAjA, rAjA kaiya vachcha kind of semi-jAlrA
  songs. Thanks.)
  
  
• From: love2hate_diaMUNDU (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Thu Sep 4 06:24:04 EDT 1997
  
  In the recent movies I have noticed vaali
  repeating the message that
  nee ennodu irunthAl mAthangaL WarangaLAgum
  nee illAmal warangaL mAthangaLaguthu
  
  the two songs in whichI have noticed this message are:
  
  sundari unnAl oru sEthi - from thaLapathi
  unnaik kAnavillaiyE nEtRodu - from Kathal thEsam
  
  I don't remember the exact lines though..
  
  Diamandu has lifted the lines for annAmali
  "meen seththA karuvAdu nee seththA verung koodu"
  from KannadAsan's old song who in turn took it
  from OLD siththar pAttu.
  
  Another diamandu SUTTIFYed lines are for nizalgaL
  "isaip padaipathAl nAnum iraivanE"
  from KannadAsan's "oru koppaiyelE en kudi iruppu".
  
  It looks like that diamandu asks the question
  "sutta pazam (pAttu) vENdumA sudAtha pazam vEndumA"
  to producers/directors for new songs!!!!!
  
  
• From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Thu Sep 4 09:24:42 EDT 1997
  
  'sutta pazham vendum sudaatha pazham venduma'
  
  That's a good one ! Does Devaa/ARR too ask their producers/directors ?
  
  Anyway are you sure that Madai Thirandhu was written by Diamundu ? I think it was written by Vaali. Diamundu wrote only Pon Maalai pozhudhu in Nizhalgal I think.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ucc205.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Thu Sep 4 09:27:44 EDT 1997
  
  
  Arularasan neenga kuruppitta 'kaadhal kottai'
  varigal erkanave namme Vairamuthu ezhudhittar
  
  The song is 'kaadhal mayakkam'from pudhumai penn
  
  The lines are:
  
  Naan thoongum velai kanavugal thollai
  
  naan thoongavillai kanavugal illai
  
  (agathiyan appidiye ulta pannittaru)
  
  
  
  More on vaalis repitition:
  
  Song: nalam vaaazha ennalum en vazhthukkal(marupadiyum)
  
  viralgalai thaandi vazharndhadhai kandu
  nagangalai naamum narukkavadhundu
  
  Song: Rukku rukku(Avvai shanmugi)
  
  Viral thaandi nagangalum vazharvadhu seriya
  avai naamum narikkida ninaippadhu thavaraa
  
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on: Thu Sep 4 09:34:54 EDT 1997
  
  Bones: In annamalai atleast diamandu acknowledges the thiruttu - kannadhaaan sonnathungannu sollidaraarE.. :)
  
  
• From: Pags (@ batboy.cisco.com) on: Thu Sep 4 12:52:37 EDT 1997
  
  bones sathya & pg
  
  If I remember correctly, madai thriRandhu.. was written by Panju Arunachalam
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-te63.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Sep 4 18:57:45 EDT 1997
  
  The similar sets I found are not exact duplicates, but require some conceptual leaps on the listeners' part. I hope they meet your criteria.
  
  1. Nithirayil vandhu nenjil kudi koNda uthaman yaaroadi---movie unknown
  2. Kanavil thondri sirithu sirithu naan kaaNum idamengum irukkinraai
  Kaniyil rasamaai inithu inithu en kayil kidaikkaamal maraigindraai (malarum vaan nilavum, Maha Kavi Kalidas)
  
  1. Oru pennai paarthu nilavai paarthaen
  Nilavil oLiyillai (Deiva Thai)
  2. Then nilaa nilaa alla
  En devi innilaa (vaan nilaa nilaa alla, Pattina Pravesam)
  
  1. Paada cholvadhu thaen malar nooru
  Arundha cholvadhu maangani chaaru
  Kooda cholvadhu Kaaviri aaru
  Koduppaar koduthaal maruppavar yaaru
  (angae maalai mayakkam yaarukkaaga, Ooti Varai Uravu)
  2. Kaaviri aarena neer viLayaada
  Kanni malargal thaen kavi paada
  Paadhi vizhigaL kaadhalil mooda
  Ennam yaavum engo oada
  Nee vara vaendum naan pera vaendum
  (nenjathilae nee naetru vandhaai, Shanthi)
  
  1. Vaelaalae vizhigaL ingu aalolam isaikkum (??)
  2. Vael vannam vizhiyil kandaen (paal vannam paruvam kandaen, Paasam)
  
  
• From: pg (@ client-116-107.bellatlantic.net) on: Thu Sep 4 19:35:16 EDT 1997
  
  Vaelaalae vizhigaL ingu aalolam isaikkum
  is from a movie called Ennaip Pol Oruvan *ing Sivaji Ganesan in a double role.
  
  
• From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Sep 4 20:39:29 EDT 1997
  
  vElaalE vizhigaL - is such a nice song; but Ramannaa
  gave a terrible picturization! Shivaji sings
  this duet with some cabaret dancer (Alam?).
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Fri Sep 5 03:18:03 EDT 1997
  
  As far as the RPG cassettes are concerned, 'madai thiRanthu' is by Vaali. 'pon maalai' - VM, 'pUngkathavE' - Gangai and 'thUraththil' by Panju.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ ucc220.lab.cc.wmich.edu) on: Fri Sep 5 08:56:36 EDT 1997
  
  "madaithirandhu'is the only song Vaali has written
  for a Bharathi Raja' film
  
  
• From: pg (@ igw2.merck.com) on: Fri Sep 5 09:57:04 EDT 1997
  
  Diamundu's similar lines :
  
  Nizhalgal - his first song
  
  Vaanam enakkoru bodhi maram
  naaLum enakkadhu sedhi tharum
  
  Kaadhal Oviyam
  
  Vaanam en vidhaanam
  indha bhoomi sannidhaanam
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Tue Sep 9 23:06:34 EDT 1997
  
  Ramki
  
  Are you sure that Vaali has not written a song in 'puthu nellu puthu naaththu', 'en uyir thOzhan' and 'naadOdith thenRal'?
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ b209.bernhard.wmich.edu) on: Wed Sep 10 17:24:26 EDT 1997
  
  Aravind yes im.
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9) on: Thu Sep 11 02:20:04 EDT 1997
  
  Thank you. That is news for me
  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Thu Sep 11 19:25:48 EDT 1997
  
  Also there are lots (I heard four songs inthe radio last week)
  of MGR songs which have the lines like
  
  kAtRU nammai adimai yendru suduvathillaiyE
  kAlam nammai adimai yendru maRappadhillaiyE
  
  I can remember now only koduppadhellAm koduththAn
  which has similar lines.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Fri Jun 12 16:52:18 EDT 1998
  
  In "Engae Nimmathi" the following analogy by Kannadhaasan appears:
  "...enathu kaigal thazhuvumbothu malarum sudugindrathae"
  
  In "Vellai Puraavondru" the same analogy is used by VM:
  "...pirindha pinbu poovum ennaich chuduvathenna kaadhali"
  
  In the song,"Chinna Chinna Poondhalirae"
  the following analogy appears:
  "...kai illaatha kaattrum thazhuvugindrathae"
  
  Kannadhaasan uses this analogy in "Thangathilae Oru KuRai"
  "..kaigaL illamal malargaLai anaithu kaadhal tharavillaiyaa"
  
  
• From: Thanes (@ u147.n167.queensu.ca) on: Thu Jun 18 20:50:00 EDT 1998
  
  In "Minsara kanavu" vairamuthu's varikal
  poop pookum osai
  athai kekkath than asai
  is very similar to his
  another song( I don't know which film )
  kathal kathal enre pookal pookum
  osai kathil kekkum( Music: Karthic Raja )
  
  
  
• From: chanthuru (@ ) on: Thu Jul 29 04:07:48 EDT 2004
  
  can u send annamali title song
  
  
• From: Blaaze, to turn Craaze (@ 203.120.68.67) on: Tue Aug 3 09:10:12 EDT 2004
  
  vm already use yakkai thiri in thithikuthe
  "deham mezhugaga, kadhal thiriyaga, mutham enum ennai ootruvom" something like this came in part of the "Mainave' duet
  
  
• From: Craaze (@ 203.120.68.67) on: Tue Aug 3 09:10:16 EDT 2004
  
  vm already use yakkai thiri in thithikuthe
  "deham mezhugaga, kadhal thiriyaga, mutham enum ennai ootruvom" something like this came in part of the "Mainave' duet
  
  
• From: Dude (@ 199.2.219.67) on: Tue Aug 3 11:34:07 EDT 2004
  
  movie: kadhalan
  song: kaathalikkum pennin kaigal
  lyrics in question: kaathal ketta varthaya endrum yaarum sonnal, nee solla vendum illai endru...
  
  movie: Jodi
  song: Anjaade jeeva
  lyrics in question: kaathal thappendru solla, adu ketta sollondrum alla...
  
  Both by VM...
  
  
• From: Dude (@ 199.2.219.67) on: Tue Aug 3 11:37:06 EDT 2004
  
  the lyrics in kadhalan is more like:
  kaadhal ketta varthaiya enna? yaarum sollalam, nee solla vendum indru...
  
  
• From: G. Padmanaban (@ 128.227.13.138) on: Mon Aug 9 20:07:50 EDT 2004
  
  Vairamuthu used to love certain words like `Viyarvai'. Lots of his earlier songs used to have it. Anyway, in the movie 'Puthu Manithan', he wrote "Angam Unathangam miruthangam adhu thangam....". In the movie "EeramAna rOjAvE", Vaali had used "angam miruthangam adhu thangam" in the song "adho mEga oorvalam.."
  In 'Mudhal Mariyadhai', in the award-winning song "PoongAtru thirumbumA.." he wrote "methai vAnginEnn.. thookkathai vAngalai..". In Annamalai (again) he used it as "methai virithum sutha panneer thezhithum kannil thookkam illaiye..".
  
  
  
  

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