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C Major 7th Chord - Has IR/MSV or others used this?

Topic started by Heaven's Melody (@ spider-wd083.proxy.aol.com) on Tue Oct 6 03:21:52 EDT 1998.
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Can someone tell about the magical effect of the Major 7th Chord. I understand that only one music composer in the music world has brought out the best melodies because of his ability to use this chord. Has KR/ARR/MSV/IR ever based songs on this chord?

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• From: Sankaran (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Oct 6 04:10:18 EDT 1998
  
  Heaven's Melody,
  Can you please elaborate(for heaven's sake!!) on what you have asked? Who is that composer who has used the chord and what is the chord like? Most of the Dfers are knowledgeable only intuitively without any formal music education, so if you give an example as to what this Major 7th chord is, I'm sure you'll get your info.
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 128.96.140.26) on: Tue Oct 6 10:06:43 EDT 1998
  
  Maj 7th chord is very common chord in songs which have jazz touch. Please listen to "Vinnor thozhum Annamalai" from the Raja album on "Ramana Maharishi". The song is in the raga Hamsanandi. The song uses an interesting chord with the notes C E G B (F#). This chord is "C maj 7 added #4"
  Illayaraja has used this Maj 7th chord in BGM of many films ; in situations where the hero returns back from a foreign country; where the hero throws a party (Meendum kokila - Deepa throws a party);
  R D Burman has used Maj 7th in lot of his songs. For e.g, "Jaanae Jaa" from Jawani Diwani. The song is in the key of C minor. The second interlude starts with a organ piece which is set to the chord Eb Maj 7.
  
  I have to dig into Rahman and MSV. I am sure that they would have used the chord.
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 128.96.140.26) on: Tue Oct 6 10:11:45 EDT 1998
  
  You do not need any special ability to use these chords. If you are familiar with jazz music or for that matter western classical theory, you would know how to use them. Chord is more than one note played at the same time. This is usually done to add harmonic color to the melody. The more notes, the more harmonic tension. Rahman has used lot of four note chords in "Iruvar" songs; especially, "Vennilaa Vennilaa Vennilavae".
  
  
• From: Heaven's Melody (@ spider-wd023.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Oct 6 20:43:02 EDT 1998
  
  I am told only one Indian music director used the C Major 7th chord in almost all his song such that he could produce extremely complex and longer melodies than anyone else in the film industry. The result was that he preferred not to compose if there was not scope for using the C major 7th chord with the result he was not a prolific but yet the the best Hindi films ever saw. He studied complex western classical pieces right from his childhood, so he knew how to create very difficult melodies. The melodies are really out of this world. But why haven't IR used that magical pattern extensively is a mystery to me, even though IR worked as a guitarist for this genius.
  
  Sridhar thanks i am really fascinated with your reply. What is your personal opinion when you play this melody chord? Isn't it a very distinct and rarely used chord?
  
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ slip-32-101-16-109.il.us.ibm.net) on: Wed Oct 7 09:10:27 EDT 1998
  
  HI
  I dont see anything special on CMaj7th.
  If a song is composed on Hamsadwani or Kedaram or blindly our MDs bang Cmaj7th.
  I think Mouna Ragam theme music is a combination of cm & cmaj7 and Aminor (one of Raja's great imaginations), I will go home and play it and confirm it.
  
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.229) on: Thu Oct 8 17:14:03 EDT 1998
  
  Is the song "En Iniya Pon nilavae" uses it at "Ninaivilae Pudhusugam" ? A similar chord is used in "Germaniyin Senthenmalaray" in the lines "Kaadhal Naayagan Paarvai thanthathil Naan enai"
  
  Please clarify.
  
  Regards
  
  Murali Sankar
  
  
• From: Vidya (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Fri Oct 9 09:58:25 EDT 1998
  
  What about Deva?. i think deva dose not know what is C Major 7th Chord.does deva writes notes or he plays a cassette to the muscians to play the same type of music i.e. Copy the music
  
  
• From: peria_devan (@ client209-42-213-93.intrex.net) on: Fri Oct 9 14:40:34 EDT 1998
  
  vidya, good sense of humour, but when we these guys are talking about some techie stuff why bring in deva who is beyond all this(!!!!)
  btw, kavalaipadathae sagothara song is written in
  K major? :))
  
  
• From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Wed Oct 14 03:07:52 EDT 1998
  
  deva has done graduation in western music from an university in UK. Please do not underestimate his tech. only that he is ezhaigalin IR/ARR.
  
  
• From: haris (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Wed Oct 14 03:07:59 EDT 1998
  
  deva has done graduation in western music from an university in UK. Please do not underestimate his tech. only that he is ezhaigalin IR/ARR.
  
  
• From: UV (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Oct 14 08:53:06 EDT 1998
  
  pant,sattai, socks, shoe ella edathilayum BIT vechu paritchai ezhudiruppAr ;-))))
  
  
• From: Deva sucks but he's better than any current hindi music director (@ cerberus5.fon.sprintcorp.com) on: Wed Oct 14 16:39:31 EDT 1998
  
  Guys! Few points to ponder. Firstly, when you are talking about Maj 7th you are talking about S,G,P,N combination on a relative scale. I think the discussion should be the use of Maj 7. When somebody narrows it down to C with Maj 7, are they saying, for eg., E with Maj 7 does'nt meet the criteria ?. BTW if you check Door Door Hum Rahe from Chalthe Chalthe (Bappi Lahiri's first score) he starts with F maj 7, E Maj 7 and D Maj 7, before the pallavi starts. My point is the song does'nt become special because it has a Maj 7 chord.
  
  

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