Topic started by Kum_Laden (@ 66.185.85.71) on Wed Sep 11 02:19:34 EDT 2002.
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Hi all,
I know this is all irrevalant to this forum but why shouldnt we spend a few minutes on it when thousands of ppl are with broken hearts remembering how they lost their loved ones. Please all human beings spend sometime to write something.Admin please close this after today.
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- From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198)
on: Wed Sep 11 02:23:15 EDT 2002
ada paavi..neeya??
intha varusham enna plan Laden Sir?
- From: Laden (@ 66.185.85.76)
on: Wed Sep 11 03:02:51 EDT 2002
dei naina.. pls da mavane .. nee nalla irupe.. endai manasai purinjukoda.. kolapathaida..
- From: Kum_laden (@ 66.185.85.76)
on: Wed Sep 11 03:04:49 EDT 2002
yahoo.com is in black and white for today only!
- From: Kiran (@ 210.187.7.46)
on: Wed Sep 11 05:37:57 EDT 2002
kum laden means opposite of bin laden ??
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161)
on: Wed Sep 11 05:55:50 EDT 2002
Sorry to bring this in but :
AS much as we mourn the thousands lost on this day last year in the WTC bombing....let's also
- mourn the thousands lost on September 11, 1973 due to a CIA planned intervention in Chile and thousands killed by US sponsoring of dictators in South American countries
- the innocent millions killed in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Vietnam, SKorea and Phillipines due to American military action
- lives lost as "Collateral damage" in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Bosnia, Somalia.
Yen ?? Ivangalam manushanga illaiya...Mr. Kum Laden ???
- From: Sethu (@ 210.187.7.46)
on: Wed Sep 11 06:19:44 EDT 2002
yesterday my friend's died !! lets mourn for 1 second !!
- From: Pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50)
on: Wed Sep 11 07:44:55 EDT 2002
Though I feel sorry for the innocent lives lost in the WTC attack, I think I wud rather mourn for my jawans @ the border, who, with Pakistani support and American Dumbness, r trying to strangle the peace of our nation. I know that we shd think in global terms ,( a life is alife whether it is Indian or American), I think undue hype is being given to the attack and its anniversary by Indianpress. Do they stop for a minute and think of the thousands of innocent ives lost in India? If they devote a special for sumthing like the 9/11 for India, then we wud be mourning everyday, every hour! Does anyone remember the 1992 Bombay bomb blasts? (Even now when I hear ARR's Bombay theme, I feel moved) Or the ones @ Coimbatore? or the umpteen rail and air tragedies? Does anyone remember the Kandahar highjacking when an innocent new bridegroom was killed for keping his head up? Does America mourn the Vietnam war? or the terror unleashed upon Japan? I am not trying to say that we shd be selfish, but be reminded of one thing: America seems to have woken up to terrorism ( I HATE THE TERM WAR ON TERROR USES BY CNN - WHO IS TERROR?) jus becoz IT is affected. WE told these bloody americans many times that there is terrorism against us, but they tearned a deaf ear to us. Now they r trying to play moral kings! America used Bin laden once! Does anyone say that? When u bring up a cobra and make it bite others, why should thy mourn for u when u get bit by the same cobra? Think........
- From: Kiran (@ 210.187.7.46)
on: Wed Sep 11 08:39:19 EDT 2002
pradeep ,
yeah u r rite !! by saying TERROR these ppl are exposing their fear which will be boost for the terrorists...even osama said the same thing !! he said ..'we came to know whole usa is frightened , we succeeded'!!But still IR is no 1 MD...Hee hee
- From: Music_lover (@ 217.157.164.215)
on: Wed Sep 11 08:55:39 EDT 2002
Also pray and mourn for
(i) the 1000s the Japanese massacred/ maimed/ tortured killed in Cambodia/Taiwan/ Singapore/
Malaya/Indonesia, during the pre-Hiroshima/
Nagasaki days
and
(ii) the 1000s the Mughal invaders starting from Mohammed of Ghazine killed
- From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198)
on: Wed Sep 11 09:01:43 EDT 2002
Guys,
Also please mourn for the 6233 mosquioto's and 43 ant's and 12 flie's which i killed last summer in chennai..
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Wed Sep 11 09:10:48 EDT 2002
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/sep/11rajeev.htm
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Sep 11 10:29:48 EDT 2002
Maranathil betham paarpathu Kolvathai vida kodiya seyal.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Wed Sep 11 10:46:40 EDT 2002
yes OISG thats what cosmician, pradeep and Raajeev(the author of the article whose link i gave above) all speak about.
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.197.76.37)
on: Wed Sep 11 11:26:43 EDT 2002
This thread is true friends. A friend of mine narrowly escaped death last year. We dont know how many of those who perished were genuine music fans.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Wed Sep 11 11:43:00 EDT 2002
In Sympathy. In Memory. In Prayers.
There can never be any moral relativism in the loss of innocent lives.
Let the world remember. And remember with hope that it never happens - to anyone, anywhere - again.
- From: Raheem (@ 212.138.47.12)
on: Fri Sep 13 09:12:18 EDT 2002
My Dear Friends, this September 11 incident indicates the world that no one is powerfulful in the world except GOD. Amercians paid the pealty for their mis-managed foriegn policies, which took many innocent lives.
- From: Aalavandhan (@ 210.186.60.54)
on: Fri Sep 13 10:29:17 EDT 2002
Raheem, I agree with you 100% that God is the most powerful force.
See what happened to the Talibans, who were completely wiped out, after they dared to destroy the Buddhist shrines.
There is a saying in Tamil that translates: The king punishes immediately, God punishes in His own time.
Looks like even God is getting impatient with these fanatics.
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Fri Sep 13 10:49:48 EDT 2002
What about all the ppl died in SL, nearly 80,000 ppl died in the 20 year on going civil war? who gave a damn about that, I know the Americans are ppl like us as well, but America is the bloody country in the world u know, ho many ppl died in the Vietnam war?, how many children are dying in Africa?, y the big deal when the Americans die?
American were always arrogant tyrants idiots, who thought after the collapse of USSR, they are best in the world, they in directly help the Israelites to destroy the Palestinian, they declared LTTE as a terrorist organisation, are we a terrorist organisation? so what if Iraq invaded Kuwait, how many countries did UK invade, Falklands was still theirs until eighties, and Hong Kong was theirs, until mid 90's.
It is all politics man, made by the white idiots of the world!! & Most Indians don't have any shame to discuss about a scr*w*d up country like USA!
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Fri Sep 13 10:59:29 EDT 2002
sorry, I meant to say
America is NOT the only country in the world !!!
so y are we making a big fuss, y don't we give a damn about our own ppl, do the american give sh*t about us, then y should we ????
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.57.247)
on: Fri Sep 13 11:41:57 EDT 2002
Raghu.. i understand your sentiments... 250 Indians also died in that. People from 80 countries died in that. When Talibans hijacked our Plane India could not do anything. India could not garner worldwide support. Ever since U.S Started it has been a setback for pakistani militants. It works greatly in India's favor. They have some superiority complex. In Politics there is no role for sentiments and emotions. You gotta get along with people who are more likely to be helpful to your country's growth. But i shall rephrase the posting for you. In TFM forum mourning thread is little unnecessary. U.S.A will only focus on incidents around the world that directly affect their economy. Infact any country will only do that. You have raised a question how many people died in Vietnam .. 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam. Let us not overreact for these things.. Just because one death is not mourned, other deaths don't become justifiable.
- From: another-dumb-indian (@ 198.73.152.100)
on: Fri Sep 13 12:02:26 EDT 2002
"Just because one death is not mourned, other deaths don't become justifiable. "
Likewise, just because one act is declared 'Terrorism' by CNN, other acts cannot be considered 'Foreign Policy'.
5800 Yanks died in Vietnam huh? Do you know how many Vietnamese?
I guess their lives don't matter so no one bothered to keep count.
Do you know how many innocents died in North Korea?
Or Japan? Or Iraq? or Afghanistan?
But then who gives a damn. They are not Americans.
Let's all mourn the Americans, because we actually saw them getting killed on CNN.
If it ain't happening on CNN then it ain't really happening is it?!
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.59.115)
on: Fri Sep 13 12:53:24 EDT 2002
You don't have to mourn.. You don't have to criticize either.. When someone mourns over death of some people. Lot of people mourn for fire fighters. Atleast people in the towers didn't know that they were going to die. But fire fighters put their lives at risk. More than 400 people died. So if they mourn let them mourn. Do Indians mourn for Gujarjat earth quake tragedy? Nope. But come December 6. Full of securities everywhere. A mosque was destroyed on December 6. That's it. But still it can be potentially a dangerous day in India. But On sept 11., 2800 people died. We live in glasshouses we should not throw stones. India-US tie up is very essential for India's growth. Americans mourn because people were killed in America. Anything wrong with that? not 5800.. 58000 people died which is not a small number. Yeah right.. even in Tanjore 45 innocents died in stampede just because Jayalalitha wanted to take a bath during mahamaham. But we have elected her as leader for second term. We should shed this egoistic attitude. Only then India can step forward.. I can still see some people living in dark and old styled ideologies. Nobody forces you to mourn. Other day when a county cricketer died Indian cricketers mourned. What do you lose? Even though they may not have heard of him they did mourn. My boss contributed 200 dollar towards gujarat earthquake. He is an American.
- From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2)
on: Fri Sep 13 14:48:22 EDT 2002
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