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New Releases by ARR??

Topic started by Srikanth (@ passport.proxy.lucent.com) on Mon Sep 15 10:23:15 EDT 1997.
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• From: Gopal Srinivasan (@ 164.100.80.102) on: Mon May 10 11:10:39 EDT 1999
  
  Geetha, where did you get to hear the song from KAndukondedn Kandukonden?
  
  
• From: Ganesh (@ solutioncube.com) on: Mon May 10 12:44:19 EDT 1999
  
  Geetha,
  
  Do you have any idea when the music is to be released?
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com) on: Mon May 10 13:20:19 EDT 1999
  
  Srinath,
  I can appreciate many good things in the song 'thirakkAtha kAttukkuLLE' but the poor attempt by ARR to have UK sing in an unnatural 'kattai'. If the lines, rendered by UK, have been sung by some female singer like sujatha, the song would have been even more enticing. The other opinion is that the piono and violins are used aptly to constitue the interludes without greatly affecting the melodic content. Piano makes you to feel 'amateurish'??! , how about the song 'thanga kiLi thOLil vachcha neethAnE meenAkshi' from MVU?!. Thirdly, i personally feel that chitra has done an excellent job in her charanam parts especially in the lines like 'ada pul veliyil oru vANavil ...' . Have noticed a subtle change in the tempo of pallavi as chitra starts her part 'pattAmpoochi , pattAmpoochchi..', that is enlivening and giving a life to the song. UK voice sounds as an insipid cuckoo with his sterile expressions(in this song only!) as if he is in some pain , 'azhagu ange ange sirikkindrathu..' . His 'rendunkettan' like voice modulation is another poor attempt only to invite bad criticisms;-)). (When i heared the song for the first time, i thought it was a female's voice!) . I think SPB would have done a better job, if he prefers not to attempt any vocal acrobatics (or any aahh ooohh stuff)! Otherwise this could have been a duet by two female singers or a solo by chitra. But unfortunately the situation does not allow!
  
  
• From: bb (@ bernstein.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Mon May 10 13:35:44 EDT 1999
  
  But unfortunately the situation does not allow!
  
  OH! andha padaththile situationkku thaan paattu pOttaangaLA:))))))
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com) on: Mon May 10 13:43:47 EDT 1999
  
  bb,
  By situation (in my statement in my previous posting), i meant 'a duet between the thalaivan and thalaivi'. athukkum mEla neenga enna sivaji padamA pArkireenga?!
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ kcecfp02.sprint.com) on: Mon May 10 16:39:55 EDT 1999
  
  Srinath,
  
  ennamO pOppaa! I disagree with many of your observations about both Padaiyappa and ESK. Almost vada dhuruvam then dhuruvam maadhiri vachchukkOyEn. But since they are all IYO, I am not going to comment on them.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ ss01.ny.us.ibm.com) on: Mon May 10 17:04:58 EDT 1999
  
  Maama:
  Why not let me know ? Everybody here seems to have an opinion different from mine :-) And I thought I had everything covered :-) I'm currently writing the review for the remaining three songs - so go ahead and post your opinons so I can defend my review in its entirity !
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ ss07.nc.us.ibm.com) on: Mon May 10 17:50:24 EDT 1999
  
  Well, I still stand by my review. I did this review because I did not want ARR fans to feel that I was unfair to ARR by reviewing a poor album of his (especially as a request from SM and Ram). One poor album does not reflect on ARR as a composer - I should know only all too well, what with IR's flop albums and all :-) The bottom line is that ESK has not greatly influenced my opinion about ARR - just as Padayappa didn't. Padayappa did not make ARR the worst composer in my eyes and ESK did not make him the best either. But if I pointed out a few negative things about ARR, I felt obliged to point out a few good things too ! Back to the remaining songs -
  
  4. En Swasa Katre:
  Songs like this are what catch the public's eyes and ears ! It's good that a "Thirakaatha Kaatukkulle" did not prevent ARR from giving another melodious number. But this song has very strong shades of "Kabhie Kabhie". Someone else had pointed this out too - the exact lines where this happens is "Idhayaththai thirudikondaen, En Uyirinai Thulaithuvitaen" is very similar to "Kabhie, Kabhie Mere Dil Mein". The tune is definitely rehashed but is so melodious that I can only appreciate it and to criticize it, I have to stop the song midway ;-) But who cares if it remotely resembles another song from another age ? It is probably the most melodious rehash ever :-) Whenever the opportunity presents itself, I would definitely listen to this song without any hesitation ! In simple words, I like this song.
  
  Ok, now for the bad news, ARR has reused "Thirakaatha Kaatukkulle" as humming in this song. Nothing wrong about that, but if he had not done it in Padayappa as well, I wouldn't have minded as much. Obviously, he lacks certain ideas and is not able to thrust even his most melodious numbers into greatness. These little things set aside "all time greats" from "currently most popular". ARR may be trend-setting, but for a song to be remembered for a long time, he has to pay attention to it like he did for his earlier albums. The gaps are showing and he better start covering them again. It would be a pity to lose melodies like ESK to the ravages of tastes, time and current trends.
  
  M.G.Srikumar has also sung this song very well. With such good singers available, why does ARR waste his songs with singers who shout and sing thru' their noses ? The difference in lyrics also shows. Tamizh is such a beautiful language that you can make even the most mundane lyrics sound classical.
  
  The veenai sounds disjointed and harshly out of place - a poor state of affairs for such a beautiful instrument :-) L.F = 9
  
  5. Chinna Chinna Mazhai Thuligal:
  Hmmm. I am worried about reviewing this song. It is definitely not one that I would like to listen repeatedly. Unfortunately, I have to do so to complete the review :-( The song starts off trying to be tender and comes out fragile ! Generally, the dandia beat does not sound good unless the beats sound sharp (like they do in the 1st interlude). Definitely, there is going to be a comparision in anybody's mind with the Kalaignan song - and this song does not fare very well. The harmony does not belong in this song and sounds like ARR podanumaennu poturukkaar ! The interlude (though based on the pallavi) issurprisingly good for an ARR song ! The tune, I think is a very good representation of a "Dandia tune". But that is also its greatest drawback as it sounds jaded, having been used so often. The second interlude is also pretty good for an ARR song. This song probably fulfills its duty on screen. Not one that ARR ought to be proud of, really ! L.F = 5, simply because the tune lacks ARR's usual catchiness.
  
  6. Thindai Thindai:
  K.R.Vijaya-with-a-severe-cold kural aatam oru azhugai. This is far from sexy, if that's what ARR tried to do !!! This song has very similar qualities to the previous one, in the sense that they are both well worn out tunes and have very little new stuff to offer. ARR is back to his "noise" interludes. How can one review a dialogue ? :-) Atleast the song has a natural flow and sounds like a song. Konjam bore adikkarudhu song. But atleast it is not broken into bits of catchy pieces. A much better 2nd interlude. Konjam bass use panna kooda evvalavo attractive-a irukku ! Again 2nd charanam bore ! Not what you expect from ARR ! Only the 2nd interlude sounds like an ARR song ! ayyo that voice again !!! Kandravi ! Dhristi-aatam irukku :-) L.F = 3
  
  
  Overall the album is a good buy. Definitely not in the class of Roja/Thiruda Thiruda/Gentleman/Kaathalan. But not all the way across either. One of ARR's better albums. For those who felt that I had been hasty and unjust in criticizing Padayappa, yes, this album is a very good promo for ARR's talents ! This is the first time in years that I am listening to ARR's albums so closely and I am happy I did ! Otherwise, I would have completely missed out on some very interesting things from ARR ! However, I must confess this much - while I thoroughly enjoyed myself listening to this album, I will almost certainly find myself unable to spare the time to do this again ! Please, this is not due to my bias. Agreed, I still find time to listen to any number of IR classics. But fact is that I don't listen to IR's new albums either ! And after 1 full week of ARR, I feel I am not losing much by not listening to his songs - I am sure the same will be true for IR's new albums too ! The choice is spending an hour on IR's 80s songs or spending the same hour on everybody else's songs. Come to think of it, there is really no choice at all :-) But thanks SM and Ram for making me hear this album. It was an experience worth the time and effort !
  
  
• From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Mon May 10 18:02:53 EDT 1999
  
  Srinath,
  
  Thanks for the review. Regarding the "Theendai" song, except for that azhugai in the start and the end, I feel it is otherwise a very good song. And, ARR did a right thing by choosing SPB and Chitra for this song. I feel that "azhugai" prevented you a lot from reviewing this song completely:-)))
  
  And, regarding M.G.Sreekumar - as you said, he has rendered 'En Swaasa Kaatrae' well. But, I feel he has some minor flaws in pronounciation - otherwise, he has done a very good job.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ 98cfef33.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon May 10 19:09:31 EDT 1999
  
  SM:
  Right on both counts :-) MGS has a major problem pronouncing 'thulaithuvittaen' ;-) A couple of other reasons for not doing a thorough review on "Theendai" are physcial exertion due to heavy India trip shopping last weekend :-) and a feeling of doing a thankless job :-)
  
  
• From: easwaran hariharan (@ 98ab0fdf.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon May 10 22:18:50 EDT 1999
  
  srinath,
  >I am trying to approach ARR with only ARR in my >mind - and when that is the case, he doesn't >fare too badly, is what I have found for myself.
  
  Why listening to a music should be such a
  hardship?. IMO, listen to a song, touch your heart and find out honestly, whether u liked it or not, and then try to put all the unwanted colors , if it is needed( md, lyrics, lack of bass score etc).
  
  >Again 2nd charanam bore ! Not what you expect >from ARR !
  What u mean by this srinath sir, when our TFM music evolved to have two different sounding saranams, or as NOV pointed out, is it a another new way to tharsh ARR?. :-).
  
  hari
  
  
  
• From: vyaas (@ ascella.anonymizer.com) on: Mon May 10 22:29:13 EDT 1999
  
  Excellent review Srinath, thanks a tonne for taking so much pain listening to Swaasa Katreae
  and giving a balanced and unbiased review.
  
  Srinath one request, could you please kindly
  review 'chinna durai' and 'Rajasthan' for me.
  I'm dying to buy those albums but i will like to hear reviews from music experts like you. These albums are selling like hot cakes throughout tamilnadu and they are in top positions in all countdown shows.
  
  
  
• From: Raja fan (@ spider-th041.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue May 11 01:23:28 EDT 1999
  
  Vyaas, can you confirm the truth about chinna durai and rajasthan. People are saying IRs albums are not selling and you are saying the opposite.!!
  
  

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