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Kannadasanin padaippugal

Topic started by Ramki (@ proxy7.cyberway.com.sg) on Sat Jun 21 00:14:12 EDT 1997.
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• From: Ramki (@ proxy7.cyberway.com.sg) on: Sat Jun 21 00:26:52 EDT 1997
  
  Tamizh thirai isai patri pesum podhu Kannadaasanai
  patri pesaamal iruppadhu iyaladhadhu ondru.
  
  A poet for all seasons and reasons madhiri
  ivar thodadha topic kidaiyave kidaiyadhu.kaadhal
  kaamam,kadamai,thathuvam ellavatrai patriyum
  elimaiyaana tamizhil ezhudhirkkar.
  
  we can all discuss abt the so many songs here.
  We can take a particular topic like kaadhal, thathuvam
  etc etc and discuss the various songs kavignar
  has written in that category.
  
  enne solreenga nanbargale?
  
  To start with i like to take the 'thatuvam'category.
  There are 100s of songs under this category
  but i like to mention my all time fav song
  "mayakkama kalakkama'from Sumaithangi.
  
  Indha paadalil varum varigal arpudham.
  let me give u a sample
  
  'vazhkkai endraal aayiram irukkum
  vaasal thorum vedhanai irukkum
  vandha thunbam edhu vendraalum
  vaadi nindraal oduvadhillai'
  
  Then
  
  'unakkum keezhe ullavar kodi
  ninaithu parthu nimmadhi naadu'
  
  Evvalavu nambikkai oottum paadal(ippellam
  idhu madhiri pattellam vara vuduvangala?)
  
  Nanbargale idhai madhiri paadalgal pala ullana.
  Neengalum ungal viruppa paadal,varigal
  endru ingu kooralam. Adhai support alladhu
  oppose panni naamalum discuss seyyalam.
  
  Hope u all like this idea and wish to see more additions here
  (sorry for this lengthy post)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Gopal Prasad (@ host-207-53-1-67.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Sat Jun 21 16:53:37 EDT 1997
  
  Sari, How about the song "Manidhan Enbavan, Dheivamaahalaam" from Sumaithaangi ? These two songs from Sumaithaangi would occupy the top rung in the philosophy ladder of KaviArasu. (To me there was only one KaviArasu, and that was Kannadhaasan !!)
  Is there a song that suggests the ways to a man to move up from his transient moribund nature to the holy, ecstatic alter of the Almighty ? That song could be Manidhan Enbavan..........
  
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 202.42.210.83) on: Sat Jun 21 21:31:16 EDT 1997
  
  Other song in this category is 'manidhan ninaippadhundu vazhvu nilaikkum endru'from
  Avan thaan manidhan.Some of the verses in this
  song are really great like
  
  Thandhai thavaru seidhaan
  thaiyyum idam koduthaal
  vandhu pirandhu vittom
  
  Mandiha pirappai evvalavu easya sollivittar kavignar. Then he says
  
  manadhu thudikkindradhu
  mayakkam varuginradhu
  azhudhu laabam enne
  avan aatchi nadakkindradhu
  
  While writing this i remembered the foll lines from the
  song 'padaithaanae'from Nichayya thamboolam
  
  ithanai siriya manidhan thalaiyil ethanai sumaigalada
  iruvadhu thodangi ezhuvadhu varaikkum endrum
  mayakkamada
  
  
  
• From: Gopal Prasad (@ host-207-53-5-176.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Sun Jun 22 15:21:18 EDT 1997
  
  Can anyone forget "Ponaal Pogattum Podaa" from Paalum Pazhamum ?
  This song is so philosophical that people would try to avoid listening or playing this song. Kind of " Off panni tholada andha paata(i)" The impact is so heavy that this song is expected to invoke the strains of melancholy or solitude in a man's mind. I would say this is one among the few songs that could keep us in the balance, in this material world.
  "Vandhadhu theriyum povadhu enge
  Vaasal namakke theriyadhu !!
  Vandhavar ellam thangi vittal indha
  Mannil namakke idamedhu !!
  The most haunting lines in the song being these lines,as, for sure,it makes you think!!
  The first two stanzas are totally devoted to birth and death issues, and I think, the poet must have had an intense feeling to express himself in this area. May be, he must have been overcome by the imperceptible concepts of life and death.The third stanza reflects more the situation in the movie.
  There are other songs, the notable one being "Amaidhiyaana Nadhiyinile Odam" from Andavan Kattailai, and I wish someone discusses these songs.
  Ninaippathellam.........Nenjil Or Aalayam
  Ullam Enbathu Aamai..........Parthal Pasi Theerum
  Veedu Varai Uravu........Padha Kaanikkai
  Aaru Maname Aaru...........Andavan Kattalai
  
  
• From: ramki (@ maine.proteq.com.sg) on: Mon Jun 23 05:58:52 EDT 1997
  
  What abt 'satti suttadhada kai vittadhada'??
  Especially the lines
  
  Pirakkum munne irukkum ullam indru vandhadhada
  irakkum pinne varum amaidhi vandhu vittadhada
  
  See the words that were chosen to describe
  the thoughts of that character.
  This song, I understand, was written in just 3 minutes time. Should be a record...
  
  
• From: Rajan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Tue Jul 1 19:46:39 EDT 1997
  
  There is this great song in sAmA rAgam sung by bAlamuraLi.
  Yes it is mounaththil viLaiyAdum manasAtchiyE. The song goes like
  
  mounaththil viLayAdum manasAtchiyE
  Ayiram kanavAgi Ayiram ninaiAgi
  kAriyam thavaRanal kaNgaLil nIrAgi
  mounaththil viLayAdum manasAtchiyE.
  
  (Can anyone post the full song please?)
  
  Another song that I can like very much is
  
  irukkum idaiththai vittu illAdha idam thEdi
  yengengO alaiginRAr gnAnathangamE.
  
  On another vein, I listened to the song
  mayakkamenna, indha mounammena of vasantha
  mALigai. The song a big relief after listening
  to the present day junkies. The sophistication
  was very good, albeit the lyrics was simple. ex.
  
  annaththaith thotta kaigaLinAl madhuk
  kiNNAththai ini nAn thoda mAttEn.
  
  TMS:unnaiyallal oru peNNai ini nAn
  uLLaththinAlum thoda mAttEn
  PS:un uLLam iruppadhu ennidamE adhai
  uyirp pOAlum vida mAttEn.
  
  Many many more like this?
  
  Rajan.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 202.42.210.83) on: Wed Jul 2 05:35:19 EDT 1997
  
  Lyrics for mounathil vilaiyadum manasaatchiye(though the complete song is a masterpiece i have marked the lines i enjoyed most with **)
  
  Mounathil vilaiyadum manasaatchiye
  aayiram ninaivaagi aanandha kanavagi
  kaariyam thavaraanaal kangalil neeragi
  Mounathil...
  
  ragasiya churangam nee
  naadaga arangam nee
  sodhanai kalamallava
  nenje
  kuzhapathin thaai allava
  oru ganam thavaraagi**
  pala yugam thavippaiye**
  oomaiyin paribaashai kangalil vadippaiye**
  oomaiyin paribaashai kangalil vadippaiye
  
  mounathil....
  
  unmaikku oru saatchi
  poi solla pala saatchi
  yaarukkum neeyallava
  nenje
  manidhanin nizhalallava
  aasaiyil kallagi**
  achathil mezhugaagi**
  yaar mugam parthaalum aiyathil thavippai nee**
  yaar mugam parthallum aiyathil thavippai nee
  
  mounathil
  
  
• From: sathyakumar (@ bones.deneb.com) on: Mon Jul 7 02:27:55 EDT 1997
  
  enakkup piditha kannadasan varigal from
  AKKARAIP PACHCHAI, MSV pAdiyathu:
  
  ikkaraiku akkaraip pachai endrum
  ikkaraiku akkaraip pachai....
  
  kadal meethu vizunthOrgaL neenthungaL
  kani meethu vizunthOrgal unnungaL
  vazip pAthai kaNdOrgaL sellungaL
  pOga vazi indri nirpavargal nillungaL
  kal tharai-il kai pOttu neenthugindra manithA
  kAlam itta kattaLaiyai mAtruvathu eLithA !
  
  
  
  
  
• From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Mon Jul 7 10:06:39 EDT 1997
  
  Kannadasan sings the song "en koppaiyile oru kudi irruppu". Can anyone get the info on which film is this and in what situation he sings the song?
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-te42.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Jul 11 20:32:45 EDT 1997
  
  Part of the duet "Vaazha Ninaithaal Vaazhalaam, Vazhiya Illai Boomiyil" from "Bale Pandiya" is philosophical in its own way even though not to the same depth as the others named in this page.
  
  Also, "Manithan Maari Vittaan" from Paava Mannippu" has some good lines.
  
  "Amaithiyaana Nadhiyinile" is one of my all-time favorites. The combination of the lyrics and the music communicate a sense of peace one tends to associate with sitting under a tree and watch a river flow by quietly.
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ hb-tl02.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 13 01:23:52 EDT 1997
  
  How about a couple of songs from Sumaithangi -
  'manidhan enbavan deivamagalam' and
  'mayakkama kalakkama'
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tj22.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 13 13:21:39 EDT 1997
  
  Also, "Kaalamidhu Kaalamidhu Kannurangu Magalae" from Chithi. Even though the song is written for a female, the lines are apt for both the genders as life progresses, and outlines the multi-faceted demands on one's time as one grows older. The only element of stress it misses is career, obviously since it was written for the non-working female in India in the 1960's.
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-ti42.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 13 19:18:42 EDT 1997
  
  Yet another song which is more of a social commentary than a deep philosophical song from "Karnan":
  Kannukku Kulamedhu
  Karunaiku inamaedhu
  Vinnukku mudivaedhu
  Vilakkukku irulaedhu
  
  Paalinil irundhae nei pirakkum
  paramporul kandae uyir prirakkum
  Veerathil irundhae inam pirakkum
  adhil mael enrum keezh enrum engirukkum
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8) on: Wed Jul 16 05:53:34 EDT 1997
  
  Response ro Gopal Prasad, 22 June.
  
  ninaippathellaam nadanthuvittaal is a gem. The song goes like this:
  
  Pallavi
  -----------
  
  ninaippathellaam nandhu vittaal theivam thEvaiyillai
  nadanthathaiyE ninaiththirunthaal amaithi enRum illai
  mudintha kathai thodarvathillai iRaivan EttinilE
  thorum kathai mudivathillai manithan veettinilE
  
  saraNam 1
  -----------------
  
  aayiram vaasal idhayam - adhil
  aairam eNNangkaL udhayam
  yaarO varuvaar yaarO iruppaar
  varuvadhum pOvadhum theriyaadhu
  oruvar mattum kudiyirundhaal enrum thunbamillai
  onRirukka onRu vandhaal enRum amaidhiyillai
  
  saraNam 2
  ------------------
  
  engE vaazhkai thodangum - adhu
  engE evvidam mudiyum
  indhuthaan paadhai idhuthaan payaNam
  enpathu yaarukkum theriyaadhu
  paathaikaLum maaRi varum payaNam mudinthu vidum
  maaRuvathu purinthuvittaal mayakkam theLinthuvidum
  
  Tremendous!! Isn't it?
  
  Similarly another song which 'stiches your mind' (nenjai thaikkum paattu) is 'pOnaal pOgattum pOdaa'?
  
  pallavi
  -----------
  
  pOnaal pOgattum pOdaa - indha
  boomiyil nilaiyaai vaazhndhavar yaaradaa
  
  saraNam 1
  -----------------
  
  vandhadhu theriyum pOvadhu engE
  vaasal namakkE theriyaadhu
  vandhavar ellaam thangivittaal indha
  maNNil namakkE idam Edhu
  vaazhkkai enpadhu viyaapaaram
  varum jananam enpadhu varavaagum
  adhil maraNam enpadhu selavaakum
  
  saraNam 2
  -----------------
  
  iraval thanthavan kEtkinraan - adhu
  illai enRaal avan viduvaanaa
  uRavai solli azhuvathanaalE uyirai
  meeNdum tharuvaanaa
  kookkuralaalE kidaikkadhu - adhu
  courtukkup pOnaal jeyikkaadhu - andha
  kOttaikkuL nuzhaindhaal thirumpaadhu
  
  saraNam 3
  -----------------
  
  elumbukkum sadhaikkum maruththuvam kaNdEn
  itharkkoru marundhaik kaNdEnaa
  irundhaaL avaLai thannanthaniyE
  eriyum neruppil viduvEnaa
  namakkum mElE oruvanadaa - avan
  naalum therindha thalaivanadaa - thinam
  naadakam aadum kalaignanadaa
  
  How is it?
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tj02.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri Jul 25 10:49:44 EDT 1997
  
  Ramki:
  You first started this interesting analysis topic saying we will discuss various areas such as Thathuvam, Kadhal, veeram etc. Should we be moving on to the next category? Is the discussion on Thathuvam over, in your opinion?
  
  
• From: N.O. Valen (@ 202.184.134.10) on: Sat Jul 26 00:19:06 EDT 1997
  
  Why don't you start a new thread on Kannadhasan's Kadhal songs, then. This page is quite full as you can see!
  
  
• From: B. Sudhakar (@ 164.164.161.36) on: Mon Jul 13 01:39:28 EDT 1998
  
  Vetri petra manitharelam pudhi sali illai
  pudhi petra manitharelam vetri kanpadilai
  please discuss the above lines and i dont know which film it comes. If possible please inform me.
  
  

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