Topic started by rajaG (@ daecfp01.sprint.com) on Fri Jun 11 14:47:33 EDT 1999.
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My ideal song will have the following features:
Lyrics : Kannadasan
Tune (Melody): MSV
Orchestration : IR
Arrangement/recording : ARR
Male Singer : SPB
Female Singer : Chitra
Male lead actor : Kamalahaasan
Female lead actress : Sridevi
Cinematography : Balu Mahendra
Comments/feedback any ?
Responses:
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Jun 11 14:58:45 EDT 1999
Listener/Viewer: rajaG(ONLY)
;-)))
(Uncle kovichukkadheenga...TOO MANY COOKS gnabagathukku varuthu;-)))
- From: bb (@ inehou-pxy04.compaq.com)
on: Fri Jun 11 14:58:50 EDT 1999
mine will be similar, sj instead of chitra, pcs instead of BM.
- From: Daniel Doraiswamy (@ sagramolapc.cc.bellcore.com)
on: Fri Jun 11 15:52:20 EDT 1999
RajaG !!
What is the difference between orchestration and arrangement ?
- From: Muralidharan (@ host035.databahnsoft.com)
on: Fri Jun 11 18:52:37 EDT 1999
DD:
I believe orchestration is composing of the prelude/interludes. Arrangement could be to do with sound engineering.
rajaG,
I fully back your selection, except for the female singer's (SJ or Chitra, kuzhappama irukke?).
- Murali
- From: R.Balaji (@ 129.130.140.143)
on: Fri Jun 11 23:10:18 EDT 1999
RajaG,
I think IR can handle the melody(tune) also.Isn't he not a good produceer of melodies?
One thing for sure, he doens' concentrate is --quality of recording/ which need lots of improvements.
Regarding teh actor--I think it cannot be said that Kamal makes a better choice cos for e.g--song "nilaavae vaa.." Mouna ragam movie.
Mohan did a exceptional job.
I feel it is a more senistive area.
- From: munniappan (@ www.akiprima.com.my)
on: Fri Jun 11 23:29:29 EDT 1999
maybe cinematography should be handled by
PC. Sriram.would be better.
even IR can take charge of tune(melody) too.
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.137)
on: Fri Jun 11 23:34:37 EDT 1999
Balaji!
If you look into the recording aspects of Kaalapani, Guru, KM, KK... i.e. those of the recent ones, I feel it is really very good. Raja is a man of kaizen!
rajaG: Your list seems good (except KSC who does not have that great a track record with SPB as SJ and hence should be replaced with SJ), but who is going to direct the video?
- From: karthi :)) (@ 1cust236.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net)
on: Sat Jun 12 01:26:20 EDT 1999
I would rather have a solo by P Susheela composed by MSV, lyrics by Kannadasan/Vaali, starred by Savithri, in a black & white picturization, directed by Sridhar!
RAj: I would like you to accompany me to enjoy this!
- From: S (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Sat Jun 12 01:37:10 EDT 1999
bb,
u too!!! PCS for balumahendra.sorry. BM is the king (IMO ;-) )
- From: bb (@ dialup-209.245.193.39.houston1.level3.net)
on: Sat Jun 12 02:14:32 EDT 1999
i beg to differ, shankar:) how about ashokkumar? (saw kaamaaaaaaa?:))))) )
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Sat Jun 12 04:07:27 EDT 1999
Karthi:PS,Savithri, Sridhar,Kanndasan ellam ok but then you know...;-)))
- From: rajaG (@ daecfp01.sprint.com)
on: Sat Jun 12 12:01:12 EDT 1999
Kamal is the best to provide expressions and the only other person in the same class was Sivaji. But, since the singer is SPB and not TMS, I chose Kamal.
Raj,
The list comprises of "ideal" features. Thanks for selecting me as the ideal listener/viewer. Plus, by adding RajaG (ONLY), you have also concluded that, while for the other categories there could be choices, in the listener/viewer category, I'm the MAN!!!. Thanks again.
Karthi,
sevaru pooraa PS PS PS nu kirukki vachhirukkELaa?
Eden,
Good point about direction of the video. Manirathnam may be a good choice. What say?
- From: karthi (@ 1cust6.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net)
on: Sat Jun 12 19:22:00 EDT 1999
RajaG, manasu + ear channel poora.
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.141)
on: Sat Jun 12 23:23:14 EDT 1999
To direct - BR is equally good as MR except that there has to be a precondition : no white dressed angelic stuff!!!
- From: Jana (@ pppa24-columbus7-3r230.saturn.bbn.com)
on: Sat Jun 12 23:26:15 EDT 1999
Balaji:
I beg to differ from your view of Mohan being the hero than Kamalahasan. We can't bear to see the pimple bore face of Mohan, whatever expressesions he makes. yucky....
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-86-85.sprint.ca)
on: Sun Jun 13 00:08:20 EDT 1999
RajaG
Excellent choices. But lets take out Kamalhassan and put in Karthik.
Oh yeah, and your choice of singers is EXCELLENT! Did you notice that everyone who differed with the opinion that KSC be replaced brought in their own FAVE:-)) Anyhow, KSC has many great duets with SPB...and she will do great, thank you very much:-)) Long live the 'chinnakuyil Chitra'!
signing off
chitravin pugal parapazhi
aruvi
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112)
on: Sun Jun 13 01:30:13 EDT 1999
aruvi, are you related to thomas ? :-) NOM to you.
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.153)
on: Sun Jun 13 01:36:03 EDT 1999
aruvi!
Parapazhi?? Appadinna ennanga? Your usage of l, L and zh is intersting!!
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.153)
on: Sun Jun 13 01:36:56 EDT 1999
Sorry
interesting (typo)!
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-86-85.sprint.ca)
on: Sun Jun 13 02:21:44 EDT 1999
anna Eden ANNA
I am a Canadian raised tamil girl who had the misfortune of not being able to learn the language properly. I had to teach myself tamil at the age of 14 by reading through ananda vikatan and the likes. Please overlook my errors, for they are not on purpose. Trust me, I think for quite a while before typing but it is still tough.
MS
What does NOM stand for? I know Thomas. He's the thunaiye-parapaLi:-)) (Eden anna, ithu eppadi?)
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Sun Jun 13 04:03:33 EDT 1999
aruvi,
No offence Meant :)
rajaG,
MR for song picturisation??? sorry....
bb,
nAn innum kAmA pAkkalai :-( nee vitturukka mAttiyE :-))
- From: eden (@ 202.54.71.157)
on: Sun Jun 13 06:00:49 EDT 1999
Thangai aruvi!
Thanks for your kind refernce (anna)!
My comments are suggested with the sole idea for improvement and absolutely not to belittle your efforts - no way! If everyone starts overlooking errors, how can the language become better? (BTW, the people in TN are no better in pronunciation!! You're by no means at a disadvantage!! I often hear Keralites complaining our pronunication of `la'garams! One guy even went to the extent telling that there's no `Zha' in Thamizh and it's an exclusive alphabet in Malayalam..all because most of the TN visitors to Malampuzha dam call it malampula!!)
Now to the topic:
How many great songs by SPB-KSC combo can you list? IMO, SPB-SJ combo's great songs will outnumber that by 10 times - easily!
Others:
Sorry for the digression!
- From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-78-6.sprint.ca)
on: Sun Jun 13 18:45:36 EDT 1999
Edenanna
It is not my pronounciation that's a problem. I speak tamil as well as any 'yaazh' tamil. It is only my literary knowledge.
It is not the number of songs that KSC has sung with SPB that is in the question. Anyhow, I had not said anything about Janaki's singing. It is more of my personal preference. And I have a grudge against these biased tamil MDs anyhow. But even if you pointed a gun at me I would still stick to KSC.
Digression: Did you listen to HariKrishnas songs. They are really nice if you like melody. Check it out sometime if you don't have them.
- From: yvs mani (@ hub.nic.in)
on: Mon Jun 14 01:50:53 EDT 1999
I would like to have Male singer as Jeyachandran,
Female singer as Vani Jeyaram,
Actress: Revathi
Director: KB
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.8)
on: Mon Jun 14 02:30:02 EDT 1999
Lyrics : A restrained Vairamuthu (Kannadasan is no more :-()
Tune & Orchestration : IR in the style of the 80s
Arrangement/recording : Deva (cheaper and equally good :-))
Male Singer : SPB (past, present all perfect)
Female Singer : S. Janaki of 80s, if not Chitra woul do fine
Male lead actor : Aravind Swamy (present day)
Female lead actress : Aiswariya Rai
Cinematography : Santosh Sivan
Direction : Shankar
- From: JarJar (@ pg1proxy.pg.com)
on: Mon Jun 14 13:17:38 EDT 1999
Lyrics : T Rajendar
Tune (Melody): T Rajendar
Orchestration : T Rajendar
Arrangement/recording : T Rajendar
umm...you get the idea ;-)
- From: Daniel Doraiswamy (@ sagramolapc.cc.bellcore.com)
on: Mon Jun 14 13:23:42 EDT 1999
RajaG !!
What is the difference between orchestration and arrangement ?
- From: karthik (@ charon.amdahl.com)
on: Mon Jun 14 13:46:20 EDT 1999
NOV- I like ur choice of Santosh Sivan for cinematography. I think he takes the cake for song picturisation, though PCS wins in novelty, creating the mood and special effects
- From: karthik (@ charon.amdahl.com)
on: Mon Jun 14 13:46:45 EDT 1999
NOV- I like ur choice of Santosh Sivan for cinematography. I think he takes the cake for song picturisation, though PCS wins in novelty, creating the mood and special effects
- From: aruvi (@ tbefw1.scar.edu.on.ca)
on: Mon Jun 14 15:03:00 EDT 1999
Nov
S. Janaki of the 80's? Why 80's? I think that she is still great. Arvindswamy of the Roja days was more appealing. Ashwaryaa Rai, !!!. I prefer Bhanupriya.
RajaG, what about art direction? ThodaThaarani?
- From: rajaG (@ daecfp01.sprint.com)
on: Mon Jun 14 17:57:50 EDT 1999
Daniel,
My interpretation is:
Orchestration would be composing the chords, counter points, strings and winds section coordination etc. Arrangement (strictly my interpretation and advance apologies if incorrect) would be establishing the balance, pan, tone of the instruments (reverb, sustain, treble, bass, etc..). Also, while MSV, or IR can establish the rhythm patterns, I would definitely want ARR to select the appropriate percussion instruments while recording.
- From: Daniel Doraiswamy (@ sagramolapc.cc.bellcore.com)
on: Tue Jun 15 09:56:59 EDT 1999
RajaG,
I would suggest you a book which can throw more light into orchestration, arrangment.
"Leonard Bernstein's Young People Concert"
- From: NOV (@ bkj-cache81.jaring.my)
on: Wed Jun 16 04:30:16 EDT 1999
Go here for some inspiration:
http://newtfmpage.com/forum/17025.14:22:41.html
- From: rameshg (@ 206.175.177.123)
on: Wed Jun 16 10:53:04 EDT 1999
Daniel
antha bookla enna erukuthunnu konjam surukkama solungalaen.
- From: rajan (@ )
on: Thu Oct 12 01:31:59 EDT 2000
most i like is actor savithri she is most beautiful acteress in tamil cinema . i like so much because decense woman in tamil cinema . and others are nadigar thilagam sivaji ganesan . the most successfully annan thangai in film pasam malar . i like them so much . until no want can,t act like them in cinema world . padmashree kamal hassan and radha .
- From: rajan (@ )
on: Thu Oct 12 01:32:57 EDT 2000
most i like is actor savithri she is most beautiful acteress in tamil cinema . i like so much because decense woman in tamil cinema . and others are nadigar thilagam sivaji ganesan . the most successfully annan thangai in film pasam malar . i like them so much . until no want can,t act like them in cinema world . padmashree kamal hassan and radha .
- From: rajan (@ )
on: Thu Oct 12 01:33:55 EDT 2000
most i like is actor savithri she is most beautiful acteress in tamil cinema . i like so much because decense woman in tamil cinema . and others are nadigar thilagam sivaji ganesan . the most successfully annan thangai in film pasam malar . i like them so much . until no want can,t act like them in cinema world . padmashree kamal hassan .
- From: rajan (@ 202.188.212.180)
on: Fri Oct 13 09:14:03 EDT 2000
tamil songs in 50,s ,60,s or 80,s are the great songs i ever get in my life . the songs are just simply superb and intellegent and olso every songs are intetrsing .
- From: vicky balan (@ 219.93.67.42)
on: Sat Jun 14 00:14:17 EDT 2003
male and female playback singers are the best choice.
they are marvellous!! i wanna listen thier duet again...like "guruvayoorappa(puthu puthu arrtanggal), thoda thoda malarnthatenna"(indra)
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