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Would viswanathan-ramamurthy have shined in hindi film music?

Topic started by rs (@ 203.124.0.247) on Mon May 6 10:30:31 EDT 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

The golden era of tfm must be the period when viswanathan-ramamurthy reigned supreme in the 1960's. Their songs have become immortal classics! Would they have shined in hindi film music, considering that they used a lot of hindustani ragas in their tamil film music? Just go to this website for a glowing commentary on their 1956 hindi film, Naya Aadmi:

http://members.tripod.com/~ATMJH/in4.html

Even though the songs in this film were well received, somehow they did not get any more opportunities in hindi films after this film. Would they have posed a formidable challenge to shankar-jaikishan in hindi films?
What do tfm surfers think?

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• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Fri May 17 01:02:24 EDT 2002
  
  >> One song of LP which i liked better than its tamil original is 'thumhi meri manzil' from khaandaan <<
  
  No the music of this was by Ravi (known in Kerala as BOMBAY RAVI). (BTW - just a tidbit. his full name *is* Ravi Shankar, though he is different from the sitarist Ravi Shankar).
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 153.39.78.61) on: Fri May 17 12:58:29 EDT 2002
  
  a case of inspiration...EngEyum eppOdhum (SPB)/Sambo Siva Sambo (MSV) of MSV from Ninaiththaalae Inikkum seems to have inspired RDB for the title song of the engrossing DD’s Hindi TV serial Subah sung by himself that created the right mood of drug addicts.
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 63.109.246.147) on: Sat May 18 15:41:51 EDT 2002
  
  naan illatha sila dinangalil this thread has changed from VIsu Ramu to LP's qualities. LP are good (compared to Anu Mallik, anand-milind,sanjeev-dharshan,n-S et al) BUt Visu_Ramu are a class act
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Sun May 19 05:42:08 EDT 2002
  
  Were the other "Pa" series movies remade in hindi?
  
  Paarthal pasi theerum
  Paar Magale Paar
  
  Which had great songs by VR.
  
  What aboutsongs of Rickshakaran remake in hindi with Randhir kapoor?SL,you had mentioned about the crazy of "Charukesi" in Azhagiya TamiZ magal!
  
  Was Ootivarai uravu and UUV remade in hindi?
  
  
• From: bm (@ 67.115.104.250) on: Sun May 19 21:51:34 EDT 2002
  
  While on VR..here is a link to MSV's interview in dinmani..the man's simplicity is his hallmark .. he mentions some of his favourites in the interview..
  
  http://www.dinmani.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=DNK20020517012409&Title=Kadhir&lTitle=%A7%5DU%A6+L%A7o&rLink=0
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Mon May 20 04:43:41 EDT 2002
  
  bm. the interview was really touching. especially the last question. god! everyone has many things to learn. I admire that answer.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Wed May 22 02:28:45 EDT 2002
  
  SL
  
  Your obsession with "Varavendum oru " from Kalaikoil ( THE JAZZ TAMIL SONG)- is proving infectious.
  
  Someone has posted the musiconline link with similar comments that of yours in another thread.
  
  Please post your discussions with MSV about this song here in this thread.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 203.199.228.155) on: Thu May 23 07:23:00 EDT 2002
  
  OISG, please check your mailbox.
  MSV was happy somebody remembered that otherwise forgotten song. When I told him that it was guys like SK who had made that song available for the TFM lovers to hear thro' internet, he felt very pleased and asked me to convey his gratitude to SK, which I am doing now !!! :) He started clapping his hands and singing it incorrectly as 'varavENdum oru nilavu' and then proceeded to send for his harmonium and started singing the song again (with incorrect words) with new chords (different from those in the original song).
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 203.199.228.155) on: Thu May 23 07:25:02 EDT 2002
  
  The arrangement in 'varavENdum...' may have been only a precursor to the great Jazz piece in 'thattungaL thirakkappadum' when Chandrababu breaks into a freaky dance.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Thu May 23 08:16:24 EDT 2002
  
  SL, y dont u write about ur interview with MSV?
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu May 23 08:23:39 EDT 2002
  
  SL
  
  You have already mailed me that.But i wanted that info as a contributing piece to this thread.Thanks.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Thu May 23 09:01:58 EDT 2002
  
  oh SL..please do post it (in ENGLISH please!! ;-))
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Tue May 28 01:08:27 EDT 2002
  
  AVR
  
  Any idea about the Hindi equivalant of "Thavaputhalvan" which has scintillating scores like
  
  "Isai keetal puvi asainthadum" and "Ulagin mudhal isai(Jugal Bandhi Style)"
  
  This movie has Sivaji playing a musician,suffering from "Evening Blindness" (Malai Kann ..Is the translation right??).
  I vaguely remeber a Rajesh Khanna movie with similar knot(?).
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.3.8) on: Tue May 28 02:52:20 EDT 2002
  
  OISG:
  Did you discuss Apna Desh and Nam Naadu?
  
  SL:
  Did you get a chance to meet MSV again?
  He seems to be coming in Ganga Yamuna Saraswathi
  the past three weeks.
  
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Tue May 28 03:49:18 EDT 2002
  
  Can anyone list the difference between
  
  Enga veetu pillai songs and its Hindi eqv "Ram our Shyam" with DK?Who was the MD?
  
  
• From: Jeyaram (@ 203.197.134.131) on: Thu May 30 05:10:27 EDT 2002
  
  All,
  
  After a long time, i have completely read a thread. I do feel that VR's style was unique, tunes very much compatible for an acceptance for Northies. It is just they did not work on it.
  
  If we need to understand their greatness, listen to all songs from Karnan. I am simply amazed how MSV(+ TR) gives so many good songs in one movie . Others from MSV are Ulagam Suttrm Valiban (thank god Kunnakudi was not MD) and Ninaithale Inikkum , etc..
  
  I have wondered about the implicit Charukesi in Azakiya Tamil Magal, simple Kalyani in Sontham eppothum, intricaices of Oru Nalile.
  
  My wife is a Tamilian from Ahmedabad and she is zapped by songs like Nalai Inda Velai Parthu.. (Urantha Manithan), Deivam Thantha Veedu ( Aval Our Thodarkadai), Illakanam Marutho (Nizhal Nijamagirathu... what a perfect song).
  
  MSV is simply matchless.
  
  SL,
  
  Hope you remember me. I got a mail from you long back.As others , iam eager to know about your interview with MSV genius. As already i wrote you, i had a chance to meet at evening 8.30 pm and had a chat with him for nearly 1/2 hour. I was provided some sweets and what a humble person he was! But, i was too overwhelmed to have any meaningful dicsussion on his music during that 30 min.
  
  Regards
  Jeyaram
  
  
• From: Jeyaram (@ 203.197.134.131) on: Thu May 30 05:13:17 EDT 2002
  
  All,
  
  After a long time, i have completely read a thread. I do feel that VR's style was unique, tunes very much compatible for an acceptance for Northies. It is just they did not work on it.
  
  If we need to understand their greatness, listen to all songs from Karnan. I am simply amazed how MSV(+ TR) gives so many good songs in one movie . Others from MSV are Ulagam Suttrm Valiban (thank god Kunnakudi was not MD) and Ninaithale Inikkum , etc..
  
  I have wondered about the implicit Charukesi in Azakiya Tamil Magal, simple Kalyani in Sontham eppothum, intricaices of Oru Nalile.
  
  My wife is a Tamilian from Ahmedabad and she is zapped by songs like Nalai Inda Velai Parthu.. (Urantha Manithan), Deivam Thantha Veedu ( Aval Our Thodarkadai), Illakanam Marutho (Nizhal Nijamagirathu... what a perfect song).
  
  MSV is simply matchless.
  
  SL,
  
  Hope you remember me. I got a mail from you long back.As others , iam eager to know about your interview with MSV genius. As already i wrote you, i had a chance to meet at evening 8.30 pm and had a chat with him for nearly 1/2 hour. I was provided some sweets and what a humble person he was! But, i was too overwhelmed to have any meaningful dicsussion on his music during that 30 min.
  
  Regards
  Jeyaram
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Fri May 31 04:51:57 EDT 2002
  
  Visu-Ramu's Padagotti & my favourite Aayirathil oruvan are great efforts for MGR. Thottal poo malarum's beat is so fresh & foot tapping. Atho antha paravai would make even the deaf shake their head. It is OUr (tamil) good fortune that they did not go up north & get lost ( figuratively!)
  
  
• From: Robin (@ 212.138.47.17) on: Fri May 31 07:57:32 EDT 2002
  
  One Fact everyone have to accept it, Tamil Artists are being recogninzed by Hindi media is after 1990. Because, at that time only these new TV channels spread all over India becuase of the new economic policy. India got shrinked just becuase of the TV Channels. To promote thier channels, everyone wants to cover other states. But when MSV, KV period, India is vast just becuase of lack of communication. ARR/Harris Jeyaraj are hit, just becuase of this factor. This doesn't mean that MSV or KV are inferior to anyone in HINDI.
  
  
• From: Azad B (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Fri May 31 11:36:16 EDT 2002
  
  Hello everyone,
  I need some information please. Is there any site or link to english reviews or criticism where northern/bombay singers songs in tamil or south indian languages is discussed (eg. regarding the songs by Kavita K, Sadhana S, Sonu Nigam, Udit N, Sukhwinder S, Hariharan etc)with analysis of pronunciation, native flavour, fluency etc?
  I am a non-tamilian, but am interested in finding unbiased reviews of these singers reception in south film industry. But the reviews have to be in english or can someone translate important criticsm with source or critic's name for music lovers like me?
  I thank you of helping me in this.
  
  

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