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Topic started by Srikanth (@ passport.proxy.lucent.com) on Mon Sep 15 10:23:15 EDT 1997.
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Any new album by A. R. Rahman generates lot of buzz. Share some of it here. Review, discuss or comment on ARR's new albums.

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From: srikanth (@ host2.cvs.aa.net) on: Mon Apr 3 15:27:46 EDT 2000

shashi, kadukonden has some mand,
like the 3and 4th bars, is similar to masila nilave nam kadalai.....etc song.

The vocal harmonies in every song are wonderful.

also I have question,
talking of 1947-earth, yesterday I happed to hear the piano instrumental theme (thanks to bb),
it sounds very close to Nalam Nalam thirunalam, except the RE- which is sharp, your comments !
From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Mon Apr 3 18:22:34 EDT 2000

Srikanth,
have u heard the main theme from the 1947-earth, not the piano one. I like it very much. your comments.
From: Krishnan (@ fw2.torolab.ibm.com) on: Mon Apr 3 19:31:32 EDT 2000

Shashi,

Excellent review of KK. I liked it very much. I really like the way you analyse each and every instrument used. I learn a lot of things from your reviews. I like (so far) the title song, Yenge enadhu kavithai & Kannamoochi enada.

Keep it up !!

Krishnan
From: haris (@ inet-fw2-o.oracle.com) on: Mon Apr 3 19:41:27 EDT 2000

sashi,

anandha vikatan says that ARR has mixed sahana with nattaikkurinji in kannamoochi...
From: MR.RIPLEY (@ abe1ec4a.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon Apr 3 21:04:04 EDT 2000

dearest music afficianadoes
please check in check out this final frontier for fusion:http://drarun.l.tripod.com
{a kind request please do click on the songs directly as the check boxes are yet to be coded]
From: Shashi (@ eed02958.mayo.edu) on: Tue Apr 4 10:19:09 EDT 2000

Hi Srikanth

Agree. There are some shades of Maand in Kandukondain... song. That is why I limited myself to saying that the song was composed in C major scale with shades of certain ragas.
From: Neels (@ 202.54.125.210) on: Tue Apr 4 11:41:27 EDT 2000

I liked KKKK very much.
My favorites are 'KaNNaMoochi' (9/10); 'Enge Enathu Kavithai' (9/10) and 'Kandukondein Kandukondein' (8/10).
My only complaint is with the pronunciation.
Clinton, Sadhana Sargam and even Hariharan need some help. VM are you listening?
Talking of Vairamuthu, he still is obsessed with 'sweat'! Note the number of times he uses the word 'Vervai'?
In 'Suttum Vizhi' (which incidentally the singer pronounces as 'Sutrum Vizhi', as in 'revolving'), I felt Hariharan was in a hurry towards the end. Even though there is no rhythm, the song did follow a space pattern in the beginning. I liked the 'Sivamani-ish' effects in the song (bells, wind etc.)

Overall, a refreshing score from ARR.
Neels
From: chidam (@ 38.23.1.248) on: Tue Apr 4 13:57:00 EDT 2000

In KK, Yenna solla pogirai is quite nice too. In the lines of VennilaveVennilave of MinsaraKanavu.
From: Sundar (@ proxy.netsetter.org) on: Thu Apr 6 13:31:22 EDT 2000

Look this site...
http://www.intamm.com/kandukondain/index.htm
From: Ajit (@ na-216-214-255-220.corecomm.net) on: Thu Apr 6 13:51:28 EDT 2000

Hi,

Where can I get the lyrics (in thamizh) of Mudhalvan songs?
From: Swami (@ nat135022.ericy.com) on: Thu Apr 6 14:07:52 EDT 2000

Bought KKKK CD lat weekend. I wanted to give my 2 cents after listening to it atleast 10/15 times. First, I thought of giving a detailed review, but the album is not exciting to give one :-(. Here are my 2 cents,

* The highlights of the album, Chitra and lyrics of Vairamuthu. Chitra has given life to the 2 songs she had rendered. Vairamuthu....man this guy has awesome. Whatever he might say and however he is, he's too good in what he had done,

"sollivadu oru ganam poodhum,
illayi yendra sollai thange vendum yendral,
innum oru jenmam vendum"

* The violin solo bit in the first interlude of "kannamoochi..."

Let me breeze thro the songs,

Yenna Solla Pogirai ---> I felt this should have been rendered by SPB.

Smiyai ---> I just can't figure out what that word means and added the singer has done whatever he could do to kill Tamizh. ARR give us SPB please.

Suttum Vizhi ---> sorry no comments

Kannamoochi ---> Lovely song, and very well rendered by KJY and Chitra.

Yenge Enathu Kavithai --> The thavil percussion bit at the start is good.

Kandukonden ----> no comments

Konjum Mainakal --> very ordinary song.

I didn't find anything other than this to mention. Overall very ordinary rythm arrangement.
Second dis-appointment after Alaipaayuthe (not the one as Alaipayuthe though). If you wanna buy this CD, get it with an another movie combo.
From: pal (@ wstisp2c01.ml.com) on: Thu Apr 6 14:48:24 EDT 2000

Swami!

Good review but in a wrong thread. If you would hv placed that in NEW IR Albums you might hv got claps!
From: chandy (@ ws025038.coba.siu.edu) on: Thu Apr 6 15:53:07 EDT 2000

Swami,

I'd be able to appreciate your review better if your "no comments" are explained with some comments... else your review comes across as something written in haste, with a negative attitude.

chandy
From: Swami (@ nat135022.ericy.com) on: Thu Apr 6 16:47:05 EDT 2000

Pal --> I'm not trying to get any kind of applause. its just that I want yo give my unbiased opinion.

Chandy --> I'm a kind of person who avoids controversy and hate to start a comtroversy. Its better that I write "no comments" rather start an another "kozhaai adi sandai". Hope you get what I'm saying chandy :-)
From: Madhu (@ spider-tk073.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Apr 6 21:20:33 EDT 2000

KKKK is awesome. All the songs are just too good.
When I am depressed just the thought of listening to KKKK songs lift me out of my blues. If this is not the signature of great music I dont know what is .

Shashi,

Great review. I enjoyed all your reviews and also learnt quite a few things from your reviews. You are so much better than the so many so called "music reviewers" in the commercial press.
From: arr (@ 195.101.0.164) on: Fri Apr 7 08:18:20 EDT 2000

yeah ..madhu is right ur great sashi
From: Ajit (@ na-216-214-255-220.corecomm.net) on: Fri Apr 7 14:52:12 EDT 2000

hey fans,

I read on aaramthinai today that ARR has agreed to compose music to two other movies. One for 'Anbalaya' Pirabagar' (who is he?) and the other for Balachandar. What are the movies? and is it going to be after "Bombay Dreams" or before?

check these:

http://www.aaramthinai.com/cinema/apr0007/news08.asp
http://www.aaramthinai.com/cinema/apr0007/news09.asp

-Ajit
From: SM (@ nat01smurugap.sgum.mci.com) on: Fri Apr 7 16:13:21 EDT 2000

Ajit,

"Anbalaya" Prabhakar is the producer of "Vaikaasi Porandhaachu", "Thoodhu po SellakkiLiyae" and "Madhumathi". All these three films had music by Deva and the first one was the first film for Prasanth. The first was a hit (atleast in B & C centres) while the next two were flops. He also acted in the last two films. After these three, I don't think he produced/acted in any other film.
From: chidam (@ 38.23.1.248) on: Fri Apr 7 18:21:35 EDT 2000

KKKK's "Yenge Enathu" has the Srinivas's bit is very soothing to listen [though there are traces of Kadalora Kavithai style chorus "Pass Pass" song].
So is AP's Snehidhane's starting bit of chorus. Great chorus bits
From: chidam (@ 38.23.1.248) on: Fri Apr 7 18:21:58 EDT 2000

KKKK's "Yenge Enathu" has the Srinivas's bit and is very soothing to listen [though there are traces of Kadalora Kavithai style chorus "Pass Pass" song].
So is AP's Snehidhane's starting bit of chorus. Great chorus bits
From: srikanth (@ host2.cvs.aa.net) on: Fri Apr 7 18:34:45 EDT 2000

funny, inthe samiyai....
there is 5part vocal harmony, why nobody notices those good things. There are many interesting things in this album, people fail to notice.....
inspite of shashi wonderful balanced review.
From: srikanth (@ host2.cvs.aa.net) on: Fri Apr 7 18:37:55 EDT 2000

will any one buy a CD, if it is not good i dont know why they have to buy the CD. (too after a buying a so called flop album --- alaipayuthe...)

it is very funny...
From: srikanth (@ host2.cvs.aa.net) on: Fri Apr 7 18:42:55 EDT 2000

the song kandukonden kandukonden has 3 ragas in pallavi...wonderful pharses, any geniune music lover will enjoy this change overs.

I found the meaning of smiIii which means jiginaku januku :)
From: prabhudas (@ nico.pediatrics.sunysb.edu) on: Sat Apr 8 02:32:03 EDT 2000

Here is my personal comments/impression on the 2 recent albums of ARR
(I do not have too much of bias on ARR's music , I admire his music, but being a HCIR fan these comments may be specially addressed to nonHCARR fans, so please do not come pouncing on me)

First of all I do not have indepth knowledge about the intricate details of Ragas/minors,majors, chord progression etc....etc like a few other people who discuss in this forum. I admire their contribution very much, in fact a special thanks for Shashi for his detailed review and his work, however my admiration to the albums are not influenced by his admiration to these 2 albums. I actually listenned the songs from Amplitude's site simulataneously reading Shashi's Detailed review, I learnt few things and I enjoyed doing that (not necessarily the songs)

KK
1. Yenna Solla Pogirai: Shankar Mahadevan,
This song reluctantly impressed me or should it be "I reluctantly got impressed by the song"
I know (like majority of music listeners), the main things(components) of any single song to impress a Paamaran are A.Tune,B.Rhythm,C.Singer,D.Lyric,E.Instrument usage (especially interlude music,and beginning of the song), ofcourse there are always 1000 other subtle or straight forward things to impress any given music listener, depending on his/her knowledge/orientation towards music.

this song has an effect of inducing a catchy rhythm eventually, even with 2 or three listenings but alaas adukkulle inda paattai aerkanave kaetta madhiri irukke nnum podhu(Poongaatrile....of Uyire and few other impressions), well one more from ARR avvulodaan nnu thonudhu, the instruments used really give a different feel while listening, I still don't know if it is Accordian or any other instrument, one good thing is that ARR is concentrating more on interlude music these days giving different and some innovative stuff, although sometimes they sound as if they are just taking a toatally different dimension from the main charanam and pallavi

Shankar Mahadevan romba mukku raaru ( I just imagine SPB singing this song, wow the feeling from imagination itself is great)
For IR fans, did you think that the starting rhythm with talking drums/claps or whatever it is
is an inspiration from "Geethanjali/Idayathai thirudade" BGM bit , when Nagarjuna goes in search of Girija in the hills in the early hours to find her shivering/scared being lonely in front of fire wood. (too much aayiducha?)

Repeat tune/known rhythm, excellent instrument use

2. Smiyai: Devan/Clinton/Dominique

Sounds like the Remo Fernandes song from "Jalwa", Dileep kku innum Jingles music marandhu pogalai.
(Try singing Sottu neelam doy or some other jingle, u will know)

very very ordinary song absolutely nothing to rave about, has some borrowed loops from LS fusion music, the drum loops in 2nd interlude (well known to all as Dr.Alban)

Outcome: Sodappal, monica Lewinsky illadadu daan kurai

3.Suttum Vizhi: Hariharan,
I may be wrong, just the first three or 4 words of the beginning of the song immediately took me to Hariharan's one of the yesteryear's album(damn , I am not able to recollect the title, it came in mid or late 80's, when HH was pure Ghazal singer Before seeing cinema DABBU), I felt the tune to be a total replica og his ghazal, and as many know most of the Ghazal songs are very soothing especially in some peculiar /different atmospheres, like when u are alone, Little depressed(mind u, little depressed, full depression na PROZAC daan)or when u are having thanni party with ur old buddies or driving alone during sun set time for long distance)

HH has done decent job, I sincerely request Shashi to write reviews on IR albums also, as I feel what ever he has analysed and written about KK/AP albums have all been done by IR in several of the albums though I can not personally analyse, I get that feel after reading Shashi's reviews.
The single chime, bell, punnagai/Stars kku aana special single simple instruments are always soothing but they are absolutely not new or nothing innovative,
the slow pace of this song if not well picturised in the movie is a sure beedi /cigaraette song

I did not feel any thing new about this song, I don't know how big is the difference between this song and the copied song"Meghame Meghame" by SG in Paalaivancholai, if you remember there are those single, chimes etc even in that.

Again a simple song, nothing innovative, definitely not a chart buster

4.Kannamoochi: Chitra/Yesudas , I can just listen and listen this song for just Chithra/Jesudas for n number of times. Gosh..., they are absolutely marvellous, Interludes:reminds a lot of IR interludes, but with trademark ARR rhythms (sounds little repetitive too),
Thanks a thousand to ARR for using KSC/KJJ

Best number in the album

5.Yenge Enathu Kavithai: Chitra/Srinivas,
Again Cithra rules over the entire song and by the time you are halfway thro' even you are ruled by chitra, just fantastic, TFM really misses her songs a much these days.

Tune, a mixture of Nenjinile nenjinile /Snehidane snehidane,(the music experts read my disclaimer above, at least for me while listening it sounds like a fusion tune of those 2) so obviously the outcome is brilliant, interludes are good, suites the song well,

did I say the previous song as the best number in album, well u got it, these 2 songs race with each other, however it is all in Rajiv Menon's hand which would impress u most after watching the movie
6. Kandukonden: Hariharan,
Ennamo, I was not very delighted, 10 le onnu 11 nnu vangale adu maadhiri irukku,

"Thaamaraikodi undan manadilennadi" 100 MPH le povudunna, Kandukonden Kandukonden, adaiye 20 MPH le ottuna maadhiri oru feeling, may be repeated listenings may improvise ur listening pleasue I hope (like most of ARR's songs, also fade from you soon like many other ARR's)

7.Kannamoochi: Chitra , A repeat but solo of song 4, chitra is the great

8.Konjum Mainakale: Sadana Sargam ,
the vocal humming in the start is the non irritating versiom of the vocal version of "thillana Thillana"-Muthu, (for some vague/unexpalinable reasons some of ARR's nonsensible/irritating bits like the start of thillana thillana still does impress us sometimes)innum ethanai naalu daan inda thagar thappu adi oodale kaekkanumo, konjam mathinaal nallairukkum, (few bits of oo lallla laa of MK especially the drums), also, after recent Hindi
trips ARR's flute use sound very NI sh

not impressive

After all these I stil think the picturisation will make some times even 180 degrees change of perceptions in many of us,

personally the whole album is not great as percieved by others, except for those three songs.

Alai Payudhe:
1.September Maadham: waste of time even writing about it, tamil kolai amogham

2.Yaro Yarodi: this is one example of those irritaing(to some), interesting & different (to others) beginnings, Dumdumdumukku...., kulandaingakku nakkal panna nall irukku,
this is a OK song, Nusrat Aliyoda quwwali thirudi adule oru bit Kannalam... kannalam, sagikkale , I mean it just doesn't fit in a regular tamil song, and hence turns out to be irregular

3. Pachai Nirame :Hariharan/Clinton, Honestly I am not a great fan of Film playback singer HH, I used to be a big time fan of Ghazal singer HH, so I do have some element of bias in listening to his film songs, In fact I craved for the telugu version of "Ennai thaalatta varuvaalo" of KM by SPB, I finally vgot it recently, it is just Alaadhi.
Anyway, this song sometimes does give a great feeling of listing to somewhat offbeat kind of song because of the imaginative stuff by ARR (I don't know the details, but I could feel it on repeted listenings),interludes and rhythm are good, n the long run not a chart buster or memorable melody, lot of reminiscences of"Putham puthu bhoomi vendum" of TT

4.Alaipayuthe Kalyani Menon/Harini/Neyveli Ramalakshmi , lots discussed already by many, well it is a known song, definitely with an interesting rhythm

5.Snehidhane Srinivas/Sadhana Sargam : The great song of the album, save the weird lyric, (olive ennai why not Brahmi amla? or vicco turmeric...idu enga poyi mudiyidho, what is wrong with Diamundu?), Bonus is a near perfect rendition by SS, great job, this is one of the examples I always yearned for as an IR kind of composition with ARR style, and what we get the great melody, excellent ARR

6.Kadal Sadugudu Naveen/SPB Charan :This is an absolute beauty ,outrageously mayakkifying for the extra ordinary rendition by the underrated yet the highly talented SPB Charan (Man, he just kills you with the way he has sung this song), IMHO, this song is carried solely by SPBcharan, the same song if were to be sung by any others,it would have been an ordinary or even disater (especially with the odd crowds singing under ARR sometimes)

Naghila Naghila Naghila....(What does that mean anyway? the name of the heroine?) a sure chart buster

Not at all greatest album, considering MR movie

Shashi, How do you just score either AgniNakshtram or Mouna Ragam, just curious?

Prabhudas
From: Prakash (@ inh1ts11-qfe0.ims.bt.net) on: Sat Apr 8 05:31:38 EDT 2000

Prabhu,
where do you get telugu version of ennai thalatta varuvalo...
thanking you in anticipation

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