Topic started by Mukund (@ sdwwwgw01.sd.nmp.nokia.com) on Sat Oct 3 20:06:55 EDT 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
Everyone is pretty bored and fed up with arguing on differences of opinions regarding MDs right ? After all typically, what would we TFMers discuss suppose we meet in person ?. Song discussions right ? So here is the thread.
Idea is someone will introduce a song and we all will discuss about the song, period. Limitation is we will automatically move to another song after 5 days of discussion. ie. anyone contributing to the thread after the first set of 5 days will have to come up with a new song!. Also whoever is starting first can state the ending date of five day period.
Some help from Ravi is required for this until some time for people to really start adhering to this.
BTW why 5 days ?? Obviously to keep the thread fresh and alive !!
Responses:
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- From: Raj (@ hydrec2.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Wed Feb 3 04:59:22 EST 1999
Udhaya,Point taken. :)
- From: Raj (@ hydrec2.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Wed Feb 3 06:46:35 EST 1999
BB: Thanks!
Lot of things cleared for me!That sahttering glass bit was a good interpretation.Thanks on the whole.
Parisu kidaikkutha OR yaaraavathu nakkeran ungal paattil kutram kandu pidikkaraangala, inime thaan paarkkanum.
BTW, I think there is a nakkeran in this forum:)
Now, we shall resume our "CoMPARE pannalama koodatha " discussion in the otehr thread!
- From: nakkeeran (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com)
on: Wed Feb 3 16:21:51 EST 1999
nakkeeran indha paadalai choice-l vittu vittadhaal sariyaaga padikkavillai. enave, thavaru kaana ondrum illai! parisu umakke!!
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Wed Feb 3 22:41:53 EST 1999
Aha! Thiruviliyadal rewritten! Enna nakkerare, BB-in objective Netrikkannai kandu bayandhu vitteera?
:)
Ethu eppadi iruntha enna, parisu enakke! But , pandiyan inge yaaru? Oh!Adhuvum naan thaan..because I was the one raised the doubt! Cha, ippo enakky naane enna parisu thandhukkarathaam!
- From: bb (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Wed Feb 3 23:17:17 EST 1999
nakkeeran, a timely appearance:-))))))
probably the next song we can dissect is "poove sempoove"..
- From: karthi (@ lab3.theatrium.net)
on: Thu Feb 4 01:55:51 EST 1999
ThiruvilaiyAdal PadaiyE! Adhukku munnAdi oru chinna correction:
bb, it's "Alai mOdhudhu" not "pAyudhu".
I have a different interpretation for "En Nenjam Endrum KannAdidhAn" - may mean that her heart is so clear and transparent and that she's so serene always. I feel this because the use of the word "Endrum"! One's heart cannot be "udaindha Nenjam" or "Shattering Glass" 'always' given the slight hope that shows itself in the meaning of the song. It can only mean to emphasize her "pavithram" so that she can alway expect things to change in her favour for the better.
- From: karthi (@ lab3.theatrium.net)
on: Thu Feb 4 01:59:30 EST 1999
Me again, I noticed another "BLUNDER" bb!
It's "En Nenjam alaiyaadhadhu" not "alaiyaadudhu". Ethanai azhagu illa namma thamizh? OrE oru ezhuthu mArinaal ethanai artham maarudhu?
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Thu Feb 4 02:32:11 EST 1999
karthi,
i think it's alaiyAdudhu.
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Thu Feb 4 05:03:37 EST 1999
Shankar is right.
It is :
"Enn veettil endrum (k?)alaioduthu
Enn nenjam alaiyaduthu".
BB: Karthi has turned out to be the Nakkeran! I also feel his point is valid..the keyword is "ENDRUM" kannadi thaan. Whdya' say?
Um paattil kurai kanda Karthi-yai enna seyya pogireer..mukkannane?
BTW, Both of you seem to have deserted the "Why IR is not.." thread?
- From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Thu Feb 4 10:39:36 EST 1999
raj,
summa kidakkara sangai............vittuduvOmE :-))))
no offense meant ;-)
- From: Raj (@ hydrec2.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Thu Feb 4 11:39:54 EST 1999
Shankar:
As it is, to take on Karthi and BB, I dont think I'll normally attempt it. But then, namma yaarai defend pannarom? Antha Rajavoda saadhanaigalai munniruthina, we can easily stop the arrows of anyone,illai? Antha dhairiyathula thaan BB and Karhtikku meendum antha thread-ukku varumaru invite panninen.
Like, in Mahabharat, Krishnanai munniruthi Arjunan jeyikkalaiya? Our Raja is so great that even though I am no Arjuna, even a novice like me can take on Dronacharyas like Karthi and BB by simply placing IR's achievements before me. Hence my dhairyam:)
BTW, Srikanth is proving to be a hard nut to crack. Padmavyuhathila maattikkonda Abhimanyu pola naan antha Thread-la muzhithu kondu irukkiren.
Srinath! Vijay! Suresh! Shankar! Help! Help!
- From: bb (@ schubert.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Thu Feb 4 14:12:22 EST 1999
karthi, (new nakkeeran), iru, sunday paakkumbOdhu neRRik kaNNai vachu posukkidarEn:-)))
yes, ur interpretation is also valid.. a poem can be interpreted in several ways.. about the usage of "endrum", may be because her hopes have been squashed throughout her life, and she has very little to cling on to, as is shown by the next line "en dheivam maangalyam thaan"..
- From: nakkeeran (@ inet-fw4-o.oracle.com)
on: Thu Feb 4 16:08:38 EST 1999
Raj, ippadi oru paer vachikittu, dharumi level-ukku vanthutteere! paravaayille.. parisai neere vathu koLLum! netrik kannai paathu bayappadura aalu naanille.
innaadhu? oru avaiyile iru nakkeeraargalaa? inna karthi vaathiyaare, ore paatle nammai kavuthittiye! :-( bada bejaara pooduchimmaa.
sari.. adutha paattukku vaangappa!
- From: vj (@ chme118pc16.ecn.purdue.edu)
on: Tue Feb 9 00:03:49 EST 1999
i really would like to initiate a discussion on
Hello, my dear wrong number... in manmada leelai
that is one outtax amazing song i have heard!!
subtle yet sexy.....
vj
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Tue Apr 13 09:17:17 EDT 1999
Raj revives his favourite thread..karthi, nakkeran, udhaya, vj, bb ellam odiyango:))
- From: Thamizhan (@ fibre38.vds.com.au)
on: Tue Apr 13 11:21:37 EDT 1999
to VJ
Vera paatte kedaikalya. En ya uyira vangureenga. Sexiya irukkanumna ethavathu sex puthakam parum.
- From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Tue Apr 13 11:37:29 EDT 1999
Ravi: Yaar indha thamizhar? Konjam gavaniyungo
:)))
- From: Srinath (@ ss08.co.us.ibm.com)
on: Tue Apr 13 11:50:06 EDT 1999
Raj:
Avar yedho anubavathula pesaraar pola irukku ;-)))
- From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.22.112)
on: Tue Apr 13 13:36:12 EDT 1999
Raj/Srinath - mere dil ke dhosthon - thamizarukku yEdho phobia irukkumO ? :-)
- From: puls (@ 208.242.36.102)
on: Tue Apr 13 15:29:47 EDT 1999
Thamizhan I think it is high time you start moderating your posts in this thread and the others too. Man you act so immature and childish. peyar mattum "thamizhan'nu" vachukitta pathathuyaa..try to act and behave like one.I have already sent mail to the TFM admins and requested them to block your domain.
- From: Ravi (TFMP Admin) (@ hope.cs.umass.edu)
on: Tue Apr 13 17:33:23 EDT 1999
Thamizhan: By this time you must have realized that the tone/content of some of your postings are not appropriate for this forum. Please moderate your language and try to contribute more usefully. This is the only warning you will receive and any future transgressions will result in your machine being blocked from accessing this site.
- From: Sri (@ t-34-182-179.dialup.wisc.edu)
on: Wed Apr 14 01:00:50 EDT 1999
I am not sure if this kind of like starting a new topic. But nonetheless...I am searching for a great Kamalahasan song that he sang way back in the late seventies. The song is 'Nyairu oli mazhayil..thingal kulikka vandhaan'. I have no idea what movie this is from but remember the tune like it was yesterday. Would someone know?
- From: bb (@ bernstein.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Wed Apr 14 02:21:26 EDT 1999
sri: u can ask this in the song stats permanent thread.. gnaayiru oli mazhaiyil is from andharangam..
- From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102)
on: Wed Apr 14 07:12:12 EDT 1999
why don't we discuss the song, or some other more familiar one? nalla oru paattai alasi romba naaLaachchu.
- From: rags (@ palwebproxy1.core.hp.com)
on: Wed Apr 14 07:48:24 EDT 1999
Nalla patta..Can you call present pattu as nalla pattu?????
- From: Leanne (@ cache41-noc.kornet21.net)
on: Wed Apr 14 08:33:27 EDT 1999
I'm not sure if this is on the right part of the page, but I'm wondering if anyone has done English translations of songs from "jeens." I recently returned from a visit to Chennai and fell in love with the music from that movie. I found the Tamil/English transliteration, but I want to know what the songs are about (especially "enakkae enakkaa" and "vaaraayoa thoazhi vaaraay en thoazhi"). And does anyone know where I could get a copy of the video? Thanks for your help.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112)
on: Wed Apr 14 16:35:41 EDT 1999
For a detailed review on "monisha en monolisa" visit "Review of New tfm" thread.
- From: bb (@ compq1.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Fri Apr 16 07:02:41 EDT 1999
can we discuss "uLLaththil nalla uLLam urangaathenbadhu" from karNan?
- From: Rasu (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Apr 16 08:24:16 EDT 1999
BB: Aha! Daaralamai! Nalla pattu. Kannadasan thaane?
A lovely tune. Chakravaagam?
One of my favourite oldies.
Post the lyrics first however. This is AFAIK:
Ullathil nalla ullam urugathrnbathu
vallavan vaguthathaDa Karna ...
...varuvathai ethir kollaDa
Thaiku nee magan Illai
Thambikku annan illai
Oor pazhi kondayada karna
.....
The lines I like best are
Senjotru kadan theerka
Seraatha idam sernthu
Vanjathil veezhndhayada Karna
Vanjagan karnanada
more later.
- From: neruppu (@ daappc12.daa.uc.edu)
on: Fri Apr 16 10:51:44 EDT 1999
"Vanjagan Kannanada" are the right words- not 'karnanada'!
ayyayyo, kadhayaye maathittenga ponga!
- From: ARR Fan ;-) (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com)
on: Fri Apr 16 11:04:09 EDT 1999
neruppu :))
Typo!
- From: nakkeeran (@ inet-fw5-o.oracle.com)
on: Fri Apr 16 16:08:20 EDT 1999
raj,
after 'oorpazhi..' you missed,
naanum.. un pazhi kondenadaa..'
- From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102)
on: Sat Apr 17 08:05:10 EDT 1999
kondEnada, or sonnEnada?
the missing part of the lyrics:
mannavar paNiyErkkum
kaNNanun paNiseyya
unnadi paNivaanada
karnaaa
manniththu aruLvaayada
kannadaasa, un adi paNinthEnada!!
- From: nakkeeran (@ 1cust246.tnt20.sfo3.da.uu.net)
on: Sat Apr 17 14:13:22 EDT 1999
cram,
i'm sure it's kondenadaa. 'coz, while forcing arjunan to kill karnan, he assures that he(krishnan) will bear the sin. that's what is expressed in this line. ( i think this is told in another song also from the same movie, which goes like kannane kolai seigindraan.. )
- From: bb (@ franck.crhc.uiuc.edu)
on: Mon Apr 19 03:30:22 EDT 1999
raj:yes, this is by KD, MSV-TKR. i like this song essentially because of the great voice of seerkaazhi. this is my second favourite song his, after dEvan kOyil maNiyOsai.
u r right, it is in chakravAgam.
cram: it is koNdEnadA, alright.
the lyrics are very good and simple.
mannavar paNiyErkkum kaNNanum paNi seyya unnadi paNivaanadaa - karNA, manniththu aruLvAyadA.
does anyone remember exactly when this song comes in the picture? before or after the viswaroopam? i don't remember the picturization.
- From: Muthu (@ fw2.de.imshealth.com)
on: Wed Sep 15 21:43:19 EDT 1999
The song comes just before viswaroopam.
karanan gets hit by ambhu but he doesnot
die as his dhramam thalai kaathings.
Then Krishna comes to Karna to ask all his
punniyams as dhanam. The song comes at this time
- From: sk (@ azure.nus.edu.sg)
on: Thu Sep 16 01:55:41 EDT 1999
You can hear uLLaththil nalla uLLam at..
members.xoom.com/goldies3/
- From: MS (@ )
on: Fri Nov 12 18:03:28 EST 1999
there is a review of SPB 's golden hits under the baton if 3 MDs - MSV, GKV and IR. check out:
http://www.themusicmagazine.com/spbsuper.html
- From: Anand (@ dedicated-151.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Thu Nov 18 03:59:10 EST 1999
I love the song "Ullathil.." Its the power of Kannadaasan's thought process that makes him write a song that would really make us think that Kannan might have really sung a song like this to Karna. How beautifully Kannadaasan sums up the entire story of Karna in just three lines :
"Thaiyukku Nee magan illai
Thambikku annan illai
Oor pazhi yetraayada...."
Great ! KANNADAASA !!! We really miss u !!!
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