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New Releases by ARR??

Topic started by Srikanth (@ passport.proxy.lucent.com) on Mon Sep 15 10:23:15 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

Any new album by A. R. Rahman generates lot of buzz. Share some of it here. Review, discuss or comment on ARR's new albums.

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• From: e.hari (@ webproxy05qfe0.sbi.com) on: Thu Jul 20 10:36:06 EDT 2000
  
  Aruvi,
  Thanks for posting the reply from indiainfo. But IMPO, if this whole episode is true, as it appears, it is bound to create aspirations among his fans. What if this selective prejudice extends to all other forms of movie making, does his mom will stop rahman composing a non-islamic devotional song? or a movie with religious tone?. THough I am great fan of ARR, I dont agree with defending ARR in this issue, and so far every one seems to be doing.
  e.hari
  
  
• From: Geetha (@ host-146.gw-int.com) on: Thu Jul 20 10:48:55 EDT 2000
  
  e.hari
  
  What do you have to say about Alaypaayudhe Kanna, Mangalam Thandhunaanena, Anbendra Mazlai?
  
  If he was so predjudiced, he would never do stuff like that, neither would his Mum permit him to do so!!!!!
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ webproxy03qfe0.sbi.com) on: Thu Jul 20 11:04:22 EDT 2000
  
  Geetha,
  We are not talking about the past here. Im talking about what could happen after this event?. If they can get away with this, they can very well with something else too. I am not saying that ARR
  is predujiced or not, but since it allows this to happen, it is bound create doubts.
  
  e.hari
  
  
• From: chandy (@ ws025038.coba.siu.edu) on: Thu Jul 20 12:54:19 EDT 2000
  
  Aruvi,
  
  thanks for posting. I got the exact reponse, albiet delayed, in response to my query to indiainfo.com. I'm glad they gave a quick response in defense of the article, clarifying the facts. We cannot shut it off as another offshoot of "sensational" news without any base.
  
  Anyway, it appears that this incident was based on ARR's mom, with him having little role to play. We arent even sure if ARR knows about these incidents given that he has been away from home! Even so, I dont think its appropraite to doubt hius secular credentials based on this info in the article
  
  
• From: fan (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Thu Jul 20 13:03:05 EDT 2000
  
  ....so what, who cares, he gives me good music period. I have come across few "top" musicians from other religions who have denied to play for hindu devotional albums.
  
  Just take it easy and ignore, arr knows the world more than anyone else, I dont belive that he would have done something like this.
  
  I dont think its appropraite to doubt his secular credentials based on this info in the article
  
  This reporter would have called Arr's home, since he is not around his mom would have answered him couple of times - say he is not around.. the angry/disappointed reporter would have penned such a story. Hows is this ?
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 38.169.77.68) on: Thu Jul 20 13:43:36 EDT 2000
  
  How come Swamy and the rest of these soldiers of equality and tolerance didn't write an incendiary article about Hindu intolerance when KJY wasn't permitted inside the Guruvaayoor temple because he was a Christian? I only came to hear of it from one of KJY's devotional albums.
  
  The point is, this article is specifically targetting to defame a wildly successful individual for his religion. Whether the mother feels a certain bias towards a religion is entirely based on her good and bad experiences with both religions, obviously Swami and the likes weren't feeding her family when she was in dire straits. So where does he get off judging her faith and tolerance. If her life had prejudiced her in favor of all the good things that one religion gave her then at worst, she's showing misguided faith in her censorship of religious motives. But, guess what, it's her son's intellectual property left in her judgement to execute. She can do what she damn well pleases with it. In the Hindu tradition I've seen people exclude certain colors from religious ceremonies because they're indicative of other religions, would this practice be religiously intolerant? I think not. Remember, intolerance also applies when you deny one's enjoyment of one faith and force one to participate in another. The word for that practice would be fascism.
  
  If the article had any business considering this news, it should have been written with the delicacy which such a subject deserves. There's no need for the "mama's boy" angle. The guy is married and has been conducting his own business since his teens for crying out loud. He doesn't need his mom to make his decisions. He left her to run his business in India while he's abroad, pure and simple fact. Also, if the mother made this decision in ARR's abeyance then how come he's mama's boy? Then why all these drummed up charges against ARR? Look at his track record, there are enough examples of songs from other faiths.
  
  Who's being selective in their coverage, now? A person's belief should be that person's business.
  
  I do believe this article is fanning religious frenzy and it's harm goes beyond defaming one individual, it goes towards dividing the fans. All in all a digressive trend in journalism.
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ webproxy05qfe0.sbi.com) on: Thu Jul 20 14:52:32 EDT 2000
  
  >>How come Swamy and the rest of these soldiers of >>equality and tolerance didn't write an >>incendiary article about Hindu intolerance when >>KJY wasn't permitted inside the Guruvaayoor >>temple because he was a Christian? I only came >>to hear of it from one of KJY's devotional >>albums.
  That is an personal opinion of a religious temple, nothing do with this issue. I certainly remember this issue was being discussed and condemned in magazines before.
  
  >In the Hindu tradition I've seen
  people exclude certain colors from religious ceremonies because they're indicative of other religions, would this practice be religiously intolerant?
  
  What if, we extend the logic to all religion and we can find something similiar. What is that to do with this issue?. So what, no one should speak about this, just bcos, our background is not clean? Why all of the sudden, we have to indulge in Soc.culture.indian type of discussions here.
  >He left her to run his business in India
  while he's abroad, pure and simple fact.
  Now, what is the proof for that. Even it is true, his mom is still a phone call away?.
  
  Until we know all the facts, it is one down for ARR.
  
  e.hari
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ proxy2o.dpn.deere.com) on: Thu Jul 20 15:03:59 EDT 2000
  
  cool down guys. we'll talk about 'New Releases by ARR'
  
  Naveen
  
  
• From: chandy (@ ws025038.coba.siu.edu) on: Thu Jul 20 15:21:39 EDT 2000
  
  Naveen, there are no imminent new releases of ARR insight in TFM! theres only this news! :-)
  
  e.hari, Udaya's point about intolerance should be noted! As long as a person believes and acts in accordance with his/her fath, without hurting other competing faiths, the act would not be intolerant. If ARR's mom feels very immensly about her faiths, thats her perogative to do so. But if this kind of faiths of ARR's mom continues to interfere into ARR professional functioning, that signals danger for ARR.
  
  Its easy to stamp someone as a "regiliously intolerant fanatic" based on a remote incident - but such stamping just shows a desparate attempt to malign someone rather than contribute to any worthy cause.
  
  
  chandy
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 38.169.77.68) on: Thu Jul 20 16:06:42 EDT 2000
  
  e.hari,
  
  >What if, we extend the logic to all religion and we can find something similiar.
  
  U: This comment lost me.
  
  So what, no one should speak about this, just bcos, our background is not clean?
  
  U: No one need speak of it journalistically because it's a non-issue. A person's action concerning his/her faith and how that person practices it is that person's own holy business. It's not for any reporter or medium to dictate or question. The exception would be if sacrilege was done to another religion; I don't believe that to be the case in this "much doodoo over nothing" issue.
  
  >He left her to run his business in India
  while he's abroad, pure and simple fact.
  Now, what is the proof for that.
  
  U: It's been well recorded that ARR's been in London for awhile now. Geetha attests to that fact.
  
  Even it is true, his mom is still a phone call away?.
  U: That's not leaving someone in charge is it if you're calling that person to check on every single decision?
  
  Why all of the sudden, we have to indulge in Soc.culture.indian type of discussions here?
  
  U: Because this article isn't about his music, it's about his mother interfering with his music, about intolerance towards faiths and such written in a very condescending, righteous tone that is deplorable.
  
  Until we know all the facts, it is one down for ARR.
  U: That's the beauty of freedom and tolerance. You're entitled to your view and so am I in feeling that ARR's being hounded by the dogs of religion. Well, it's time to go listen to "Alaipaayuthae kanna" by ARR, "Allah un aanaipadi" by IR and realize that both those guys are far superior to the mutts that deride them in the media.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 206.152.113.140) on: Thu Jul 20 16:57:02 EDT 2000
  
  It may be fun and energizing to judge
  the mom's (supposed) action,
  the journalist's action and the son's
  action (inaction?). And each of us
  can take a different stance and argue.
  
  Ultimately, what matters is, what is YOUR
  response to this?
  
  Assuming ARR's mother blocked the Hindu
  broadcast, how and why should it
  enrage you? How do you care if she is
  strangling her son's career? Is that the
  real concern of the journalist?
  
  Maybe the journalist is doing this to defame
  ARR or his religion,
  or to really help him escape religious
  branding. (From the tone of the article,
  the former seems probable!)
  
  But what matters is what is your
  response?
  
  Such controversies, if anything, only expose
  our biases and prejuidices, not Begum's or
  Swamy's.
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ webproxy05qfe0.sbi.com) on: Thu Jul 20 17:25:06 EDT 2000
  
  udhaya,
  Yes this is a free world.
  WIth availble few facts, you are saying that article is biased and irrelvant. Based on the same facts, I like to reserve little judgement over the people involved.
  The core question is not, whether ARR is secular or non-secular. Whether he should allow it to happen, and there I differ not to defend him.
  
  
  Rjay,
  
  Such controversies, if anything, only expose
  our biases and prejuidices, not Begum's or
  Swamy's.
  
  May be, but as long as there is no pretension and criticism is backed by good reasoning, there is no scope for bias or prejuidices. But you raised an important question?. How this news touched each of us and make us react in different ways, is itselt interesting.
  
  regards
  e.hari
  
  
  
  
• From: VS (@ wwwgate32.motorola.com) on: Thu Jul 20 17:27:00 EDT 2000
  
  This issue reminds me of an article that I came across in rediff a few days ago - with regard to the immense popularity of Hrithik Roshan among the people today and that a publication had said that he was the first Hindu actor in a long time to have challenged the supremacy of the ( Muslim ) Khans ! The article went on to describe how the underworld (run by Dawood Ibrahim and his henchmen) was threatening the Bollywood producers to sign up Muslim actors in their films or else...
  
  Another recent incident that comes to my mind is the alleged statement by the former India captain Azharuddin that he was being accused of match-fixing because he belonged to the minority community ! (That he had to apologize after it had upset a lot of people, including his fans is of course another matter).
  
  But the point is this, when people enter public life, be it in art or sport or cinema, and become successful and famous, they become icons in the eyes of a vast majority of people - almost an entire nation so to say ! They also become the mdels and aspirations of the people of the society. Such being the case, it becomes imperative that they rise above such divisive issues and behave responsibly, so much so that it becomes thier responsibility to ensure thet they do not cause an unrest by their actions directly or indirectly. This is a price that they have to pay for being the stars they are !
  
  One cannot say, how can you blame him if his mother/father does such and such a thing ! As a person of immense public limelight, it becomes a duty of the person to put such things to shade.You may ask, "do you expect the star to be responsible for the gossip of some third-rated yellow journalist ?" Well, the answer to that is obviously not ! But is'nt the distinction between a well-reputed and decent reporting and some libellous paparazzi obvious to most of us ? Do we need to really search hard to tell them out !
  
  Secondly, calling a report that we do not agree with as a cheap gimmick to satisfy ouselves would mean stark escapism. Agreed that there are reporters out there out to make a fast buck or two at the cost of a celebrity, but come on, don't we know the difference ? If we don't, then we have all the more reason not to shoot off our mouths without knowing for facts.
  
  No one watches a Tendulkar because he is a Hindu or a Viswanathan Anand because he is a Tamilian, or such thing. The fans know no religion or language. If it had been so, the Tamils had no right to adore an MGR or a Rajini ! Azhar did not become the Indian captain because he was a Muslim, and ARR did not become the nationwide music phenomenon today because he was a Muslim ! And they need to acknowledge the fact, and make sure their releigious or linguistic or whatever feelings remain to themselves and their private life. Then, there will be no questions asked !
  
  

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