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New Releases by ARR??

Topic started by Srikanth (@ passport.proxy.lucent.com) on Mon Sep 15 10:23:15 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

Any new album by A. R. Rahman generates lot of buzz. Share some of it here. Review, discuss or comment on ARR's new albums.

Check the ARR reviews page

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• From: aruvi (@ morticia16.slip.yorku.ca) on: Sat Jul 8 21:05:50 EDT 2000
  
  Hmm...I can't believe that just mentioning his future concert would bring so much activity on the thread:-)
  
  The news that there was some fake numbers in ARR's Dubai concert is old. But you are wrong in thinking that the entire concert was fake. Some numbers were real, as pointed out by some friends of mine who watched the video. They mentioned that the numbers by SPB, KK and Chithra were live, except for HH and KK duet. They also said that Rahman faked his singing for Vande Mataram and Mustafa. I believe them because these were HC Rahman fans. But one way or another, those that went to the show enjoyed it immensely.
  
  Anyhow, I am going to add a bit of article that I found on the show, I have translated to english. Please bear with any mistakes with word usage:ARRAHMAN - LIVE IN DUBAI
  
  "A show like this has never taken place in India till now" says Javed Jaffry, compere at this show. We went to this show from Toronto, Canada. It was a bigger hit then expected. The rehearshal for the show took place at Al-Shaff Stadium. More than 1000 people came just to see that. That day, Rahman made all the singers sing the songs many times and made corrections. It is important to note that all the leading singers of India were there(?). Suddenly ARR started playing 'Happy Birthday to you' on an instrument and SPB followed by singing this. Sivamani cut a cake and celebrated his birthday. The stadium looked like there was going to be a festival.
  
  On December 1st at 5 pm the gates were opened and spectators were allowed in. The sponsors were happy that over 40000 tickets were sold. At 7:30 when Javed Jaffery came to compere the show the audience cheered loudly. As Sivamani played the drums alone and said the count down, ARR came on stage. The people who came to do the show were 80 people from ARR's troupe and 30 audio/video technicians. Two large 16' TVs were installed on both sides of the stage. Rahman called SPB to sing the first song of the show and SPB came and sang the song in his style. Hariharan and Kavitha Krishnamurthy sang 'Hai Rabba' in hindi. In between, ARR played the theme of Bombay with Naveen on the flute. As Chithra sang her first song 'Kannalanne' the back dancers came on stage for the first time. These young dancers were coached by Shanthosh Shetty from Mumbai. There four month training helped the successous of the show tremendously. In this show, udit Narayanaan, Shubha, Anubama, Sujatha, Sreenivas, Saathana, Suckwinder Singh sang their hit songs.
  
  The crowd kept shouting 'Chaiya Chaiya'. Rahman sang 'hamma', 'Dilse' and 'Mustafa' for the crowd and they danced. When he sang 'Mustafa' people put on there lighters and and made the stadium look beautiful.
  
  At last when Suckwinder Singh sang 'Chaiyya' it took a long time for the clapping to stop. He sang that song three times. To end, Rahman called all singers up and sang 'Vande Mataram' and that was all.
  
  This is Rahman's second show and everyone said it was better than the last. The lasers used in this show were very good. They sang 33 songs and left the audience in joy.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: know (@ pm-82-111.tm.net.my) on: Sat Jul 8 21:10:25 EDT 2000
  
  While you people are cribbing about the loss in value for the money you never spent please do consider this. It is not true that ARR, Sivamani and his group. It seems so because some people in UTV which released the dvd's of the concert to satelite tv's etc. "voice over-d" some parts which had a poor recording. You dont expect so many well known artists to give such an animated performance for recorded music. Don't you?
  
  
• From: know (@ pm-82-111.tm.net.my) on: Sat Jul 8 21:11:56 EDT 2000
  
  While you people are cribbing about the loss in value for the money you never spent, please do consider this. It is not true that ARR, Sivamani and his group acted out the show.It seems so because some people in UTV which released the dvd's of the concert to satelite tv's etc. "voice over-d" some parts which had a poor recording. You dont expect so many well known artists to give such an animated performance for recorded music in front of so many frenzied audience(In Dubai- that too). Don't you?
  
  
• From: CF (@ kscya010-0581.splitrock.net) on: Sun Jul 9 01:32:23 EDT 2000
  
  know: Of the many oxymorons I have come across, your pseudonym is a classic:-)
  
  I was told this recently: Rajnikanth's dialogue in Muthu - "EmaaththaravaaLa vida, EmaandhupOravaa mEla thaan thappu adhigam" (or something to this effect). Your quote "You dont expect so many well known artists to give such an animated performance for recorded music. Don't you?
  
  I do! Unfortunately you do not expect that.
  aruvi: Thanks for your reproduction of the review. But the fact still remains that it was a "NOT LIVE" live show for the most part!
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ uhura03.slip.yorku.ca) on: Sun Jul 9 02:46:46 EDT 2000
  
  I wonder just how many of the people who are complaining attended the show:-))...
  
  
• From: raju (@ 202.75.176.35) on: Sun Jul 9 10:24:16 EDT 2000
  
  hey guy check this page,i just download some musics of arr: www.arrahman.mainpage.net/
  
  
• From: fan (@ sttl6400gw3poola154.sttl.uswest.net) on: Sun Jul 9 13:49:31 EDT 2000
  
  Aruvi
  we cannot justify it to be correct, just for the reason majority did not complain. :)
  
  There is no harm in playing live recorded tracks if you run short of artists. I am for it,
  
  What if people starts accepting, I feel there will no live shows at all in future, it will become something like "there are not many original scores in tamil film music anymore", thank to Deva and brothers, majority have accepted them.
  If you had been in madras in 70-80's, there were about 5000+ music band who performed live in tamil nadu, Now most of them record or play a sequence. Whom to the blame for this change?, I do not know.
  
  Any way this is going way out of topic, and one of the df friend was already kind enough to point it out in a very soft way, so I feel I should stop and honour the title and discuss about "arr's new albums".
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Sun Jul 9 16:39:24 EDT 2000
  
  http://www.tamilcinema.com/cinenews/news/cinenews.htm
  
  A news in these lines.
  
  
• From: jaykumar (@ 202.75.176.31) on: Tue Jul 11 05:09:45 EDT 2000
  
  www.rahman.musicpage.com/
  each page contains bgmusic
  
  
• From: shathriyan (@ 202.188.127.2) on: Tue Jul 11 05:58:15 EDT 2000
  
  (("Did you know that in both the much publicized "live show by ARR and his group" performances in Malaysia and Dubai, NONE of the songs were played by ARR or his musicians (yes that includes Sivamani, Naveen, etc). They all ACTED in front of the audience but the actual music was played through a DAT tape. For most of the songs, the singers sang live to track music. For some of the songs, even the singers faked it - which explains why we saw Malgadi Subha (singing i.e. acting) for Caroline's Thee thee thithikkum thee. All this I believe, so that the audience is given only the 'best'.
  
  Tell me! Would you like to churn out Megabucks to see ARR's "pretty face" when you know that he is not 'performing' on stage. I would like to know the opinion of DFers on this topic, as this disturbing trend is creeping into second tier performers too.))"" by a CONCERNED FAN
  
  Has HCIR fans got nothing more else to bash Rehman?? TFM is nothing more than a place to throw ones venom. Gone are the days when we use to read much information of various MD's capabilities, their up coming projects, pros and cons arguments on their abilities in a proper decorum, but now it is pure hate mail!!
  Rehman's music was pure crap to these guys and now his live concerts are nothing but pure cheat!!(has CONCERNED FAN being to Rehman's live show or he has some authentic proof to say that they were using DAT's. I read none in his posting but there is pages of arguments on that subject after that) Next his music colloboration with Lord Webber is actually a bluff. I do no know how can so called music lovers can have that much hatred towards another MD just because he sees him as a competitor to his own favourite MD. Either you like ones music or you dont. Period. The more you show your hatred towards another MD, it shows the more insecure you feel on your favourite MD's position. This very typical of Indians. Favourite politician, actor, actress,singers, MD's etc and willing to bath in fire for them, when they are all attaining glory and money from you all!!
  
  
  
  
• From: CF (@ 208.24.179.211) on: Tue Jul 11 09:34:15 EDT 2000
  
  shatriyan,
  
  I can only show you the way, I cannot lead you to it. Even though you have the "aattumandhai" mentality, I am not Jesus:-)
  
  DFers: Aaah, I have been branded HCIRF here, and HCARRF in pro IR threads. I have arrived! My life's mission is finally coming to fruition:-)
  
  
• From: fan (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Tue Jul 11 12:25:46 EDT 2000
  
  
  "Aaah, I have been branded HCIRF here, and HCARRF in pro IR threads. I have arrived!"
  -- CF, yes yes we have made it...great.
  
  
  "as this disturbing trend is creeping into second tier performers too"
  ......ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....he he he hooo hooooo...poor musicians. Guys learn to sequence and use the on/off button instead of the stack of keyboard keys.
  
  finally then he blames all the indians for all the cause....mmmm, basically rather than being a arr fan, ir fan ,our friend is big karoke fan.
  :)))
  
  
• From: HCAnand-Milind fan (@ 208.49.174.9) on: Tue Jul 11 13:28:15 EDT 2000
  
  CF and fan are actually HCSAR (SA Rajkumar) fans masquerading as HCIR fans and HCARR fans whenever convenient.
  
  
• From: SAR = Dheivam!! (@ 208.24.179.211) on: Tue Jul 11 13:54:25 EDT 2000
  
  HCAMF: You found us out!:-)
  
  
• From: hcamfansfan. (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Tue Jul 11 13:54:55 EDT 2000
  
  ahhhh truth is out....:)
  sar is great,
  there is topic all songs hits in a movie,
  but i wish someone would start
  
  "just one tune for any movie" for SAR.
  
  
• From: know (@ hlr-81-171.tm.net.my) on: Tue Jul 11 21:23:33 EDT 2000
  
  Way back in 1988 I attended a live performance by Ilayaraaja and GA in chennai. Even at that time he had prerecorded Drum Beats for the song Raja Rajaadhiraajanengal raaja in that show.
  
  Tell me one show by the westerners where they dont use track music. Still, millions turn up for the shows.
  
  CF , U called my psuedonymn an oxymoron. Look where your's is taking you:-)(Just kidding)
  
  
• From: CF or whatever (@ ip100.kansas-city7.mo.pub-ip.psi.net) on: Wed Jul 12 02:33:43 EDT 2000
  
  know: I called your psuedonym an oxymoron because you had claimed a knowledge that the TV or DVD version of the live show had voice over (a supposedly live show). In fact (for the Dubai show) for which I absolutely claim that I was not in the same continent and not even in the same hemisphere HH went badly out of tune in Chanda rE..... If it was a voice over version which I saw, pray tell me, why would they voice over "intentional abaswarams". My contention that it is a DAT tape which was played is based on a) my observation of the perfect balancing of instruments which is almost impossible to achieve in a live show b)some inside industry information c) reliance on several independent forumers whose opinions I have come to respect over a period of time.
  
  Your initial claim was that it was a LIVE show. Now you are taking a stance that 'it may not be a live show' but live with it AND so do many others. Those are two separate contentions.
  
  Non-live live shows doesn't bother some people - It bothers me.
  Copying of film songs doesn't bother some people - It bothers me.
  Audio piracy bothers many people - Sometimes doesn't bother me.
  Napster vs. Metallica is a whole different ball game. I don't even "know" where I stand on that.
  
  You, among others, have claimed that only people who attend the programs have a right to crib. Tell me please. I am in the U.S. The referred shows were in Malaysia and Dubai. Is your contention realistic? This entire issue was triggered off by a post in this thread announcing ARR's "Live" shows in the U.S. and Canada. As a potential paying customer, I have every right to ensure that I am entitled to a quality product - even before it is delivered to me. More passive customers may wait until the product is delivered, and some more are either totally passive or blissfully ignorant.
  I have been in the music business for quite some time. Sequencing percussion tracks or creating a pattern for repetitous play is a matter of convenience. Many sounds used by contemporary MDs are not available for live drumming because the original itself is probably programmed using an R-8 (Roland), Alesis, or a Korg sound module. But that is totally different from playing an entire minus one CD, which is nothing but a karaoke. Plus, it is one thing for some amateur musicians to sequence because they don't have the luxury of a 20 member orchestra versus ARR, Sivamani, Naveen synching upto tape - IF SO!!!! The jury is still out:-)
  
  
  

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