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IR's new albums!

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Dec 23 03:33:44 EST 1998
  
  Sangeetha,
  The ONLY thing the reviews are praising about DG is the BGM (not even the songs).
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 206.103.12.118) on: Wed Dec 23 04:44:10 EST 1998
  
  Just few weeks back, in Kumudam, there was an article about the status of Ration Shops in TN. Even before reading this article, I'd listened to the PK bits in DG and I liked it. After reading it, I only liked it more.
  
  I don't think in any village generally a folk song will be sung by voices like KJY, SPB, HH. It requires a rustic touch and PK has it. Therefore the song bit is apt and good.
  
  
• From: Anbu (@ oxhp.com) on: Wed Dec 23 09:55:02 EST 1998
  
  'En Kanavinai', 'Naan Vakkapattu' and 'Desiya Geetham' from DG are extremely good. No doubt. MSK, I am sure you will love these ..
  
  
• From: venkat (@ fwclient.zip2.com) on: Wed Dec 23 15:21:42 EST 1998
  
  I heard the songs from KK excellent? Hats of IR
  Mr.Nagas I think you have not given any review about KK What happened?
  
  
  
  
• From: Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.26) on: Wed Dec 23 18:23:34 EST 1998
  
  'En Kanavinai' song from DG is very good. Picturization of that song was not that much impressive (Maybe, I expected too much from Cheran). But the other songs were not so good. As usual, IR has done a brilliant job in the BGM.
  
  Sangeetha,
  
  I can never accept that IR composes good music for only level 1 directors or his favourites. I will say only because of IR has so many people survived (atleast for a while) in the industry. Did you see the film 'Chinnathayee'? It was a low budget film with a new director. The director wanted only IR to compose the music and when he told the story to IR, it seems he was impressed and he agreed to compose music for that film. The film was well accepted in rural areas and the songs were real good. The director got a good name and gave one more film and after that he was not seen anywhere. But, as far as IR is concerned, he does his duty very well for every film he works with, be it a Mani Ratnam film or a debutant director's film.
  
  One reason why you might have thought so could be because of the fact that level 1 directors' films and songs become hits even before the film is released. Take the case of Mani Ratnam's "Dil Se". People believed that the songs in a Mani Ratnam movie will be good and so the cassette sales went up. So, even though, the songs in a movie are junk, people buy the cassette or the CD, and after repeatedly hearing those songs they begin to like it and after some few weeks they forget it.
  
  So, please, never again pass such a comment. IR is a very sincere MD and doesn't show any partiality to anyone when it comes to composing music.
  
  
• From: Sangeetha (@ bluebird.state.mo.us) on: Wed Dec 23 19:23:33 EST 1998
  
  Shanmugam Murugappan,
  
  I won't agree with your word's "IR doesn't show any partiality to anyone when it comes to composing music". IR gave lot of alva to so many people.
  
  Whenever he thinks that director or producer won't be back to him for his next movie, or when they back to himself after a break, he will just give alva to them.
  
  I can give few of Examples for this,
  
  For R.K.Selvamani - Makkalatchi, Bhagyaraj- Raskutti, Kovaithambi - Unnai Vaazhthi Paadugiren
  P.Vasu-Saadhu, Manivannan - Amaidhi Padai, KasthuriRaja - Vasuki, etc.
  
  Even he gave big alva to Kamal in Sathileelavathi (Rajanodu song might be an excpetion for Balumahendra's Sake).
  
  How many people knows about IR refused to do Re-recording for AGS Movies Kattumarakkaran? Then it was done by Deva.
  
  Similarly he refused to do RR for lot of films. Some of those films came up with his old BGM Sound tracks.
  
  For IR its not a survival problem. I think he just want to teach them a lesson.
  
  Infact Cheran signed up with ARR as MD for his next film is known fact. That's why he didn't put his special attention.
  
  I couldn't agree "En kanavinai" from Desiya Geetham is a Master piece of IR. Is it comparable to "Ennai Thalatta Varuvaalo"? It can be comparable to "Vidiyum neram Ingu Vandhadhu" in Sethupathi IPS thats all.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ pdxss902.pdx.intel.com) on: Wed Dec 23 20:22:48 EST 1998
  
  Sangeetha,
  
  Almost all the directors you have listed have gone back to IR one time or another. And IMO, all the movies are not junk as you seem to indicate. Are you saying all those movies were great but were spoiled by music? I hope u dont think he did a bad job in Dalapathi(last with Mani), pudhu pudhu arthangal(last with KB??) and list goes on.
  
  Going by ur logic almost all ramarajan movies, mohan movies and many other actors movies should have been junk music bcos they were directed by junk people. I hope u dont claim that if songs are hit, the directors are great. I am not saying IR never shows partiality? Who doesn't? But not for all the reasons you have quoted. There have been many instances where IR would just refuse to compose music bcos he doesn't get along well but ur accusation that he would compose bad music to teach others a lesson seems preposterous. Well I guess it is he who suffers not the directors in such cases. Well just for the record, Cheran has not gone up to a level where he picks an MD. It was the producer who picked the MD and director. He infact told that it was a great experience working with IR. Please dont come up with an argument that he said it to please IR.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.228) on: Thu Dec 24 00:33:40 EST 1998
  
  wee said raj. misconception that raja is vindictive and all that.R.K.selvamani has indeed gone back to raja for his next film 'rajasthan' *ing sarathkumar and vijayashaanthi.
  
  
• From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.37.75) on: Thu Dec 24 04:14:13 EST 1998
  
  What is IR latest offers?Please send to this forum.
  
  
• From: Ram (@ 206.103.12.126) on: Thu Dec 24 04:42:16 EST 1998
  
  amaidhipadai, sathileelavadhi.... Who said IR work in these movies are not upto the mark? Those who have seen these movies will definitely know the quality.
  
  Kattumarakkaran...The songs are really good ones. IR didn't do the RR due to some misunderstanding with P.Vasu. That's all. But today they are again working togher!
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Thu Dec 24 06:37:50 EST 1998
  
  sangeetha,
  Can u mention a few RR movies having the BGM pieces of Old movies.
  Cheran has NOT yet signed ARR for his next movie.
  In fact he said, IR might be the MD for his dream venture "pAraseega rOjA".
  
  The story shud give him some inspiration. Can u compare the story line of DG and KM??
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ spc-isp-tor-uas-72-92.sprint.ca) on: Thu Dec 24 10:50:51 EST 1998
  
  I have heard that the music for kaadhal kavidhai is lousy. So are people in here just praising IR or is it really good. Let's say compared to kaadalukku mariyaadhai.
  
  
• From: Magend (@ sp-69-90.tm.net.my) on: Thu Dec 24 13:03:31 EST 1998
  
  Aruvi,
  you should listen to this method of songs very slightly. Kaadhal Kavithai is the best if compared K. Mariatahai. The song Diana is more impressive.
  
  
• From: Shanmugam Murugappan (@ 208.236.83.16) on: Thu Dec 24 18:06:32 EST 1998
  
  Sangeetha,
  
  Again I can't accept what you say. It is true that some people were affected because of their bad personal relationship with IR. But, inspite of being a musical genius, IR is just another human being. He is not a GOD as some people claim. Remember the fate of TMS' career after his tussle with IR. We may have lost a great singer but IR still made SPB and KJY more popular in Tamil film music by repeatedly using them, particularly, SPB. Inspite of all the misunderstandings, the directors, you have mentioned, had with IR, he has done a good job and has never compromised on his music quality. If your point were true, then that will mean that IR is not a sincere MD and he is not honest to his job. Can you ever think of saying that? According to me, IR is the most sincere MD in the industry.
  
  As for RK.Selvamani, he never left IR till "Makkalaatchi". He didn't sign up IR for "arasiyal" which was released after "Makkalaatchi". Still, do you mean to say, "Makkalaatchi" was bad in terms of the music? The BGM for that film was too good and that was more important for that film. Usually, RKS' films are not known for their great songs. In fact, there will be only 2 or 3 songs in his movies. The BGM will be good like for "Pulan Visaaranai", "Captain Prabhakaran" etc. You can compare all these films with the BGM of "Arasiyal" (MD : Vidyasagar).
  
  Do you mean to say songs in the film "Unnai Vaazhti Paadugiraen" (It had a good song sung by SJ. "kaalai kuyilgalae... kavidhai paadhudhae") and the BGM in "Amaidhippadai" were bad? "vetri varudhu" song in "Amaidhippadai" was quite good. It suited the situation.
  
  What is wrong with the song "adi naan pudicha kuyilae" song in "Rasukutti"?
  
  As far as PV's "Kattumarakkaaran" is concerned, there was a rumour (which I really don't believe!!!) that IR had first composed all the beautiful melodies in that movie, and when it came to re-recording, he saw the movie and got irritated. The songs were picturized very badly plus some people say that IR felt doing re-recording for that movie was not worth. What I feel was there could have been some misunderstandings between IR and PV. Although, the movie was a junk, the songs were good.
  
  Magend and Aruvi,
  
  I feel music in both KM and KK are on par. Both are equally good.
  
  
• From: R.Balaji (@ 129.130.140.131) on: Thu Dec 24 19:14:27 EST 1998
  
  Hi guys,
  Shankar,
  WHta happened any new news about the 'symphonic fantasy"?
  Is there a website for limca book of records?if so please give me.
  has anyone verified the cassstte release in England?
  why is everybody started discussing something else.
  I thought this was of major importance.
  
  
• From: saravanan (@ mfs-pci-bqh-vty55.as.wcom.net) on: Thu Dec 24 19:41:51 EST 1998
  
  I am surprised everybody is discussing about songs of IR.what about BGM. I doubt anyone could match his performance. He is a Genius and never compare with the newcomers.
  
  
• From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.239) on: Thu Dec 24 21:38:23 EST 1998
  
  Dear Saravan,
  
  You are right. But we have a separate thread for it in the permanent links.
  
  Regards
  
  Murali Sankar
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.228) on: Fri Dec 25 01:31:38 EST 1998
  
  here's a link to a news pice on raja's jaeya jeya he. it seems the symphony guys are playing the instruments and the likes of SPB, lata, alka yagnik are to sing inthis album. produced by rajeshwar who directed 'amaran'.
  http://www.dinakaran.com/weekly/tamil/velli/irera.html
  
  

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