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- From: vimalan (@ tp-71-29.tm.net.my)
on: Fri Nov 5 22:11:13 EST 1999
arr is unbeatable
- From: observer (@ nova.singnet.com.sg)
on: Fri Nov 5 23:04:12 EST 1999
hi,
yes, i agree with you Vimalan.
arr is unbeatable in lifting beats.
arr - Always Remix Rahman?
regards
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- From: spike (@ 203.115.31.10)
on: Sat Nov 6 01:50:35 EST 1999
Hey if arr is not good who is good ? My fathre can give a tune better then deva & ir
Spike
- From: ARRPakku (@ enpc2559.eas.asu.edu)
on: Sat Nov 6 14:46:04 EST 1999
spike is your father Andrew Lloyd Webber...?
- From: ARRPakku (@ enpc2559.eas.asu.edu)
on: Sat Nov 6 14:46:41 EST 1999
spike, is Andrew Lloyd Webber your father .....?
- From: john (@ pc027.trillion.com.my)
on: Mon Nov 8 08:20:24 EST 1999
dfg
- From: Toplan (@ pc027.trillion.com.my)
on: Mon Nov 8 08:21:49 EST 1999
for ARR fans,,good news Mudhalvan songs will surely
become a super duper hits . i saw Mudhalvan yesterday,
and the songs sequences are nicely filmed; all the
songs are the best in their own . different
choreographs. no sundaram's family member's are
involved. Mudhalvane is the best with lavish spending
which is similar to Maya Machindra but not same. Then
3 village based songs were handled by shankar
superbly.There are no group dance in these songs
except for shakalaka baby by sushmita sen.Shankar has
introduced a new ways of filming the songs
sequence.You have to watch this movie more than once
,definitely because it not enough just one show to
visualised all the good aspect of the film, especially
the wonderful camera work by kv anand, he might won
the national award ,but we have to wait for MR's
alaipayuthe . the fighting sequence is another plus
point. there is one fight sequence where \Arjun with
only his u/wear and his body is covered by mud. Then
the BGM of ARR is fantastic, Arjun got his break again
after gentleman and again it is Shankar that had done
this..he,d given the break for Prasant, prabu deva and
national award for kamal after more than a decade.
another good aspect of this movie is the dialogue by
sujatha.I think this is the best political movie i had
ever seen .manisha got nothing much to do in this
movie but sehe involved in four songs.Superb acting by
Arjun and raguvaran.The comedy by vadiveloo and
manivannan is laughable.minus point are ;some of the
plot looks imposible and very imaginary. i dont know
whether this movie will be doing well in collection or
not but i seriously going to watch this more than 2
times. movie that i watched more than 2 times were
Indian and Kathalan. its a must watch in cinema .
- From: ajen (@ bkj-cache81.jaring.my)
on: Mon Nov 8 12:39:25 EST 1999
i think arr has compose beautifully for mudhalvan soundtrack. he had compose the village base tune as same as the other md too,because people think he can only produce modern hot songs and not vilage base.even tajmahal has beautiful vilage base tune
- From: Vaasan (@ lac460-329.carleton.ca)
on: Mon Nov 8 13:37:43 EST 1999
Maniratnam's ALAIPAAYUTHE is released today
A.R.Rahman did a beautifull job for this movie.
This songs are wonderful.
I never expect that Alaipaayuthe songs will beat all previous Rahman sons.,
Movie: Alaipaayuthe
Music: A.R.Rahman
Lyrics: Vairamuthu
Camera: P.C.Sreeraam
Direction: Maniratnam
Label: VinnThendral
song released: Nov 8, 1999
Movie Release; Dec 17, 1999
Singers: S.P.B, Hariharan, UnniKrishnan, Sreeraam, Sreenivaas, Janahi, AshaBonsle, Chitra and Anurada Sreeraam
1. Thoddaaththu poovil vaasam kandaen
--S.P.B, S.Janahi
2. Soornthuvidda sonthame vanthudu
--Sreeram, Chitra, Anurada Sreeram
3. Alaipaayuthu sunthariye unaikaanum poluthu
--S.P.B, Hariharan, UnniKrishnan
4. Sevvarali muththuppenne senkamalam unnaale
--Hariharan, Asha Bonsle
5. Sumantha Sumaithaanki sumappathu murayo
--Hariharan
6. Puruvam virikkum poonkuyile vaa vaa vaaraai
--S.P.B, Hariharan, Sreenivas, chitra
7. Alaipaayuthe en ujire alaipaaynthathaal
--Chitra
- From: Vaasan (@ lac460-329.carleton.ca)
on: Mon Nov 8 13:39:33 EST 1999
Maniratnam's ALAIPAAYUTHE is released today
A.R.Rahman did a beautifull job for this movie.
This songs are wonderful.
I never expected that the ALAIPAAYUTHE songs will beat all previous Rahman songs.,
Movie: Alaipaayuthe
Music: A.R.Rahman
Lyrics: Vairamuthu
Camera: P.C.Sreeraam
Direction: Maniratnam
Label: VinnThendral
song released: Nov 8, 1999
Movie Release; Dec 17, 1999
Singers: S.P.B, Hariharan, UnniKrishnan, Sreeraam, Sreenivaas, Janahi, AshaBonsle, Chitra and Anurada Sreeraam
1. Thoddaaththu poovil vaasam kandaen
--S.P.B, S.Janahi
2. Soornthuvidda sonthame vanthudu
--Sreeram, Chitra, Anurada Sreeram
3. Alaipaayuthu sunthariye unaikaanum poluthu
--S.P.B, Hariharan, UnniKrishnan
4. Sevvarali muththuppenne senkamalam unnaale
--Hariharan, Asha Bonsle
5. Sumantha Sumaithaanki sumappathu murayo
--Hariharan
6. Puruvam virikkum poonkuyile vaa vaa vaaraai
--S.P.B, Hariharan, Sreenivas, chitra
7. Alaipaayuthe en ujire alaipaaynthathaal
--Chitra
- From: dev mannemela (@ prxy-01.softimage.com)
on: Mon Nov 8 16:03:32 EST 1999
I am not insinuating not ARR lifted this song,
but the first two lines of 'Uppu Karavadu' from
Mudhalvan are the same as IR's 'Enga mulla Allah' from
Dharmaseelan...
Did anyone else notice this ??
dev
- From: aruvi (@ kirk09.slip.yorku.ca)
on: Mon Nov 8 19:01:33 EST 1999
Vaasan
First of all, I hope that even if ARR had sons that they would not get beat:-)
Anyhow, on the serious side, if what you say is true, how is it possible that the cassette is releasing simultaneously(oo..big word) in India and Canada. Secondly, if what you say is true, how did you get the cassette today. Considering that all the tamil stores are located in Toronto, did you make the nearly 4hr trip from Carleton University to Toronto? Thirdly, why is it that there are no advertisements about this in any of the tamil stores?
I am not trying to be offensive or anything. I mean, if what you say is true then I would be the happiest person in this forum. But as it seems highly unlikely, please confirm that what you have said is true. There have been enough false alarms about ARR releases already and with this being a MR film, the expectations are quite high and people are going to hassle those poor audio store owners who have no idea.
Not to mention the fact that if I find out Chithra has not sung in the film, I will take a trip down to Carleton:-)). Just kidding.
- From: poy mannan (@ 203.106.35.79)
on: Tue Nov 9 02:35:51 EST 1999
dey...vaasan...
neethanda...ARICHANDRAN paramparai.....
pothumada sami...
nalla karpanai
- From: pg (@ gate02.merck-medco.com)
on: Tue Nov 9 10:46:25 EST 1999
rOjA rOjA from kAdhalar dhinam sounds exactly like
'ennai vittAl yArumillai kaNmaNiyE kaNNuRangu' sung by k.j.yEsudas in ?? film.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.62)
on: Tue Nov 9 11:05:08 EST 1999
good observation pg, but the song was sung by by SPB ?
- From: chandy (@ 209.125.83.228)
on: Tue Nov 9 11:13:34 EST 1999
Vaasan and likes,
What pleasure do u guys get by giving hoax news here??? What do u guys actually gain by giving false news??
Ravi/BB : we should have some mechanism for deleting hoax-messages!!
chandy
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ 207.18.199.140)
on: Tue Nov 9 11:24:53 EST 1999
Just listened to Muthalvan & Taajmahaal.
In muthalvan, 'azhagaana raatchasiyE' an excellent song set in reethi gowlai. IMO, this is the best song in these two movies. The SPB/Harini combo sounds great. I liked kurukku chiruthavaLe too (sivaranjani).
In Taajmahaal I liked both the versions (male & female) of 'chotta chotta nanaiyudhu taajmahaal'. The intermittent usage of tabla is very catchy. 'maayE maayEyO', 'sengaathE' & 'thiruppaachi' songs are also very good.
Go ahead and buy the CD's. It is certainly worth it...
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Tue Nov 9 11:29:35 EST 1999
MS & pg:
The song "Ennai Vittaal Yaarumillai, Kanmaniyey Unn Kaiyyanaikka; Unnai Vittaal Veiroruthi Yennavillai Naan Kaathalikka" was indeed sung by KJJ in "Naalai Namathey" - an MGR starrer and Music by MSV.
- From: Shashi (@ eed03413.mayo.edu)
on: Tue Nov 9 11:41:40 EST 1999
Hi everybody
I know it is kind of delayed but wanted to listen to a good recording before completing this detailed review on Muthalvan. Here it is.
Review of Muthalvan audio album
Music: AR Rahman
Lyrics: Vairamuthu
Director: Shankar
Song 1. Shakka-lakka baby--by Praveen Mani & Vasunthradevi: Only the name of the singer is archaic; this is a 'techno' type song composed specifically for the discotheques and their patrons. Starts rather mildly with a gentle ticking rythm and a good voice intro by the new singer. This is however quickly followed by a fast but wonderful rythm and hefty bass score. Pallavi
is catchy and the male voice backup is interesting for the first few times but becomes
rather irritating as it repeats on and on and on...in the course of the song. 1st interlude is completely a motley of "stuff" (for lack of better definition) and sounds techno and
uninteresting. The charanam once again shows that Vasunthradevi is talented but the melody line could have been more imaginative. 2nd interlude is brief and consists of some spanish shouts (?@#%) 2nd charanam similar to 1st but since the male voices lead towards the end, there is no irritating male backup voice!(so it sounds better). The song ends with the pallavi again now accompanied by a dholak + techno rythm loop which sounds interesting (a hint of the same is shown in the 1st pallavi but this time it is more elaborate). Ends with 'adios amigos' and that precisely summarizes my feeling for the song. Rating 4.5/10 (this however will be a definite hit among the younger generation!)
2. Kurukku Chiruthavale--by Hariharan & Mahalaxmi: Wonderful flute intro; goes right to your soul!! This is supported by acoustic rythm--what a relief from the previous song. Prominent 'Kolusu/Payal' sounds accompany the rythm and an imaginative 1/2 beat just before the pallavi starts (as a percussionist myself, I loved this 1/2 beat although a lot of folks might not understand what I am talking about). Never mind, continuing on--The pallavi is superb! More so because of the honey that flows out of Hariharans vocal cords!! The flute backups are good in the pallavi. 1st interlude starts out with rythm continuation, but soon a sarangi/violin (played in Rajasthani folk style) joins followed by voices and claps--good. 1st charanam is more imaginative and warms the heart. The song shows shades of raga 'Vaasanthi' (ARR must have had a hang-over from 'Adi manja kizhange from tajmahal or vice-versa) & is rendered equally well by Mahalaxmi. 2nd interlude is more of the folk sarangi, this time free flowing imagination backed later by flute which repeats the prelude piece. The 2nd charanam similar to the 1st with more sarangi and flute backups. Back to pallavi with more decorative rythm backup voices and closes with a wonderful string section. Overall rating 9/10
3. Uppukaruvadu--by Shankar Mahadevan & Kavitha: Starts briskly with a 'sangathi' on Thenmozhiye
by Shankar M followed by a folkish flute (which takes you right to the country side). As you are enjoying the tranquil country side you are suddenly transported by this rythm on the Dafli(played by sticks) & the sarangi/flute combo to more interesting locales where the action
starts with the Pallavi, accompanied by rythm guitar chords and harmonium. This by itself is
very catchy but wait--Shankar touches new heights. 'Odai karai oram' line is more catchy than the pallavi and better yet the 'Kola Kola Kolagala' that follows is even more infectious and tops it all. 1st interlude has synth harmonica/reed instrument followed by sarangi playing the same intro before pallavi. 1st Charanam is again very catchy and imaginative. Kavitha Krishnamurthi competes with Shankar Mahadevan effectively and her pronunciation is good as well. 2nd interlude has 'Thenmozhiye' repeated followed by a banjo piece, voice and sarangi repeat. 2nd Charanam similar to 1st with less backup instruments. Ends with the pallavi at Kolagala. Both singers have put in ample enthusiasm and this fares well for this feet tapping number. My only complaint--interludes could have been more imaginative. Overall rating 8.5/10
4. Muthalvane--by S Janaki and Shankar Mahadevan: Interesting synth with 'marching thumps' rythm reminds one vaguely of 'Kapaleri poyachu' from Indian. Rapidly this is changed to an interesting vocal effect. I would have raved about it had I not heard 'secret story' from Pat Metheny, from which it is adapted (1st track). The pallavi starts after the 'Muthalvane vane, vane.. prelude (male). The melody is neutral (neither catchy nor too boring) and the rendition average (definite Pisuru's in SJ's voice--especially, when she repeats the pallavi after the first charanam. But before I get to the charanam about the 1st interlude--starts with synth variations followed by a 'choir' type singing (reminescent of the chants in Omen) followed by giant pipe organs/church organs building a wonderful 'eerie' mood, climaxing with a rapidly moving rythm. Here it breaks into the 1st charanam which is simply superb! The wonderful acoustic tabla (reminds me of Prasad's tabla--MSV troupe) with a nicely done huming by SJ scores full points for the charanam which by itself is imaginative and better than the pallavi. Ends with Muthalva, va, va (female) and pallavi before the 2nd BGM which has more of 'Patmethenys' vocal adaptations and synth (okay imagination). The 2nd Charanam is similar to the 1st and truly the variations on the tabla once again deserves a special mention--really well done. The song ends after the pallavi repeat (this time more irritating because of the male, female
abrupt cut and pastes) followed by vane, vane and the 'Omen' type chants. Highpoints are the
interludes and the charanams; pallavi is tolerable. Overall rating 6.5/10
5. Ulunthu Vithaikayile--by Swarnalatha, Srinivas & Hariharan, Mahalaxmi: Starts with a good
huming piece by Swarnalatha (which replaces the flute melody line); this is more free flowing
with the chords in the background and sounds melodius(one of the best portions of the song).
Pallavi is similar to song 2 (lyrics different). 1st BGM has a santoor/Dulcimer lead with
variations on pallavi (not much imagination but pleasant to hear). Pallavi is repeated again
by Srinivas (lyrics are once again different) and he definitely sounds great. From this point the song is entirely 'cut & paste' from the 2nd interlude, 2nd charanam till the end from 'Kurukku
Chiruthavale' (song 2). Both Srinivas and Hariharan score full points for their rendition
although personally Hariharans' voice is emotionally more expresive. Overall rating 8.5/10
6. Azhakana Ratchasiye--by SPB, Harini & Prakash: Begins with a rythm on the Ghatam along with a 'recorder'(kind of flute) melody joined by voices, synth and strong bass; this ends with 'interesting slaping sounds' on the Ghatam. SPB renders a flawless ReethiGowlai in his inimitable fashion. But Harini to her credit does a superb job as well--"she is no Arugampul when it comes to singing"--"Aamam". The 1st interlude has more rythm and mandolin/banjo type instrument with voice & strings (good). 1st charanam is imaginatively composed and SPB shines in both the lower and higher octaves. The Ghatam run at the very end of the charanam reminds one of the classic 'Shakti' recordings (Vikku, Zakir, L Shankar, J Mclaughlin). ARR introduces 'Urumi mELam' in the 2nd interlude and Prakash does his bit of the job, with strings and original
'recorder' prelude to the pallavi (repeat). The 2nd charanam is similar to the first with the
voices reversed from the order in the 1st charanam. Pallavi repeats at the end, but this time with the 'urumi mElam' it sounds even better and fades to voice with strings backup.
Overall rating 9/10
Overall album rating: 7.6/10
Final comments: I had rated TajMahal at a 6.8/10. Although both albums have good songs there are fewer wasted songs (energy) in Muthalvan IMO. Even 'Shakka-lakka' although musically gets a 4.5/10 is sure to be a hit among a certain 'population'! My prediction is that this album would do much better, both in terms of popularity and sales, compared to TajMahal.
- From: thathuvavaathi (@ 207.18.199.140)
on: Tue Nov 9 15:56:23 EST 1999
azhagaana raatchasiyE
...
muttaasu vaarthaiyil
pattaasu vedikkiriyE
Meaning of "muttaasu" :
muttaasu = muL + thaasu
Original meaning of thaasu is idiththal. indha idathil (muL) kuththudhal-nu artham.
"muL kuththuvadhu pOl suruk suruk-nu pEsara vaarthaiyaala, ippo pattaasu maadhiri vedikkiriyE" appadinnu artham !
(oosi pattaasu vEdikkaiyaaga vediththaalE vedi damaar damaar :-)
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