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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.
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- From: rf (@ spider-wc041.proxy.aol.com)
on: Mon Aug 6 15:54:10 EDT 2001
UVII, thanks ;--)
interesting profile of IR
http://classifieds.ceeby.com/celebrities/directors/IlayaRaja.cfm
- From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com)
on: Mon Aug 6 16:56:50 EDT 2001
UVII and MPR,
to tell u the truth I think tim burton is a megalomaniac and a very avergae director. much like SP muthuraman of our land.
2 thinks I hated abt the movie was (unfortunately I have to diagree)
1) Make up:
The make up of the person who trades humans is so artificial. The orig. in 1969 was so good that apes (roddy Mcdowell then) were so original. This movies make up is overdone and really looks very contrived. The make up of the female ape that tags along with mark wahlberg is so so artificial. she doesnt look like an ape but resembles Janet jackson (really!)extremely silly!
2) Walk Like apes: Like men, apes should have shed that kind of an uncooth walk with time, that was the intent of the orig. movie and novel. retaining the silly monkey shouts and monkey like walk on apes that were supposed to be civilized is slightly stupid.
The less told abt the jumps(rajini style) and the directors narration style and logic the better
End Digression:
Guru:
some one had already told me in another thread abt the malayalam guru and I still have that cassatte with me (the mallu one). I really like the BGM of guru but no its incorrect to say both r the same. listen to the title music of planet of the apes in CD and then u will know how different this is.
- From: UVII (@ 63.225.17.254)
on: Mon Aug 6 17:22:39 EDT 2001
Bharath:
I also have POTA BGM cd, and they r totally different. BTW, have u heard Good will hunting BGM score?. Do u have Guru Film in video cassette?
BTW, let us continue our discussion abt POTA/Tim Burton/Danny Elfman thru email ...don't want to convert TFM to EFM page :-)
- From: jeera (@ 206.175.176.2)
on: Mon Aug 6 17:33:39 EDT 2001
DE's interview in IndiaWest (sometime in 2000):
SAN FRANCISCO -- It was around the time that Danny Elfman was composing the soundtracks to Men in Black and Good Will Hunting that he was first exposed to the glorious rhythms of Bollywood music.
"I was at a birthday party for (director) Tim Burton," he recalled to India-West last week by phone from his studio in Malibu, Calif. "Tim had been to India that year, and did an Indian theme for his party ... and a song came on that blew me away."
That the song that touched him so deeply was "Choli ke peechhe" ("What's behind your blouse?") from Khal Nayak, might shock music purists raised on Allarakha and Ravi Shankar.
But Elfman comes from a place far to the left of mainstream. As a cofounder of the energetically loopy art-rock band Oingo Boingo, which burst onto the scene in 1980 (and whose early hits "Only a Lad" and "Violent Love" are considered classics today), Elfman - a vocalist and multi-instrumentalist - always keeps his ears pricked for intriguing, new sounds.
He was so impressed with the music of Khal Nayak that he decided to fly to Mumbai (Bombay) to learn more about how "filmi" music was put together.
Neena and Veena Bidasha, a locally renowned twin sister dance duo known for their boa-constrictor belly dancing, were performing at Burton's party that night, and mentioned that they were going to India. Elfman and his girlfriend decided to tag along. "It was a great experience," he said.
His dream project, Elfman told India-West, is to work with Burton, his longtime collaborator, on what you might call a Hollywood "masala" film that would incorporate the best elements of Bollywood: love, action, and melodrama, with lots and lots of music.
Danny Elfman, 47, is one of Hollywood's top composers. He has a mind-boggling list of credits that numbers more than 50 films, many of them blockbusters, and over a dozen TV series, including the theme to "The Simpsons."
In 1997, Elfman was nominated for two Academy Awards, for the Best Music (Original Dramatic Score) for Good Will Hunting and Best Music (Original Musical or Comedy Score) for Men in Black (he lost to James Horner's Titanic and Anne Dudley's The Full Monty, however). He's been nominated for the Golden Satellite, the Golden Globe, the Grammy and the Emmy, and has won, among other honors, three Saturn Awards from the Academy of Science Fiction, Horror and Fantasy Films.
He composed the soundtracks to two films currently in theaters - the Russell Crowe and Meg Ryan thriller Proof of Life and Nicolas Cage's new The Family Man - as well as the films Mission: Impossible, Anywhere But Here, A Civil Action, Flubber, A Simple Plan, My Favorite Martian, To Die For, Midnight Run, Scrooged, Black Beauty, Dolores Claiborne, Sommersby, Darkman and its two sequels, last year's Instinct and many others.
Working with Tim Burton, Elfman has added his trademark retro-spooky touch to his scores for The Nightmare Before Christmas, Batman, Beetlejuice, Batman Returns, Edward Scissorhands, Mars Attacks! and Sleepy Hollow. It was Burton who commissioned Elfman's very first score, PeeWee's Big Adventure, in 1985. Burton is also a "big Bollywood fan," said Elfman.
Elfman's upcoming projects include Spy Kids, Sam Raimi's Spider-Man and Burton's Planet of the Apes. So he wonders how he will fit in the time to pursue his Bollywood dream: "It's one of those things I very much wish to do, should I ever get a grasp of being ahead of myself, instead of behind myself," he told India-West. "It seems I'm always two or three steps behind ... I'm one of those people who are chaotically disorganized with time.
"When I'm composing for a film, I go into suspended animation. This last year, I went underground for five months, with Proof of Life and The Family Man. Once I get into composition, everything stops."
On that trip to India three years ago, Elfman met a wide variety of Indian music directors and musicians (though regrettably, not Laxmikant or Pyarelal, the composers of Khal Nayak) and sat in with Taufiq Qureshi, the brother of Zakir Hussain, on Qureshi's recording sessions for the score to the Femina Miss India pageant. "It's a funny thing to sit in on, because like all pageant music it was very corny, like it would be in the States," he recalled. "But suddenly, there would be a break with all this wonderful, wild music, with drums and percussion, and then it would kind of settle back in with the saxophone, bass and drums.
"I am very much into percussion," he continued. "Percussion is my love.
"I remember talking to somebody about how the percussion parts were done, and how it had been expressed in 'Choli ke peechhe,' and I was told that it wasn't really written, but it was expressed in a verbal language - but there were many players and a big section, which is what it sounds like, which is why I was so fascinated.
"It made perfect sense to me, because that's how I learned music."
India-West asked if he has any words of advice for the Anu Maliks and others who want to bring their music to the West. "I don't know if I'd give them any different advice than I'd give anybody who asks me out here," he said, "which is 'good luck.' It's incredibly competitive; you need a lot of luck and timing, aside from talent. It's brutal! But anybody from out there who has had any success already knows that. It can't be any less brutal in Bombay than it is in Los Angeles."
In Los Angeles, Elfman sometimes finds himself in the position of trying to explain just what a Bollywood movie is. "The way I describe it to people here is that a Bollywood movie has everything," he told India-West. "It has comedy, it has action, it has romance, and at least five songs."
"Man, I would love to do a film like that. It would be so great. I keep telling Tim (Burton), whenever it's time, I'm ready to do a Bollywood-inspired film in English!"
- From: UVII (@ 63.225.17.254)
on: Mon Aug 6 17:47:13 EDT 2001
jeera,
Thanks for the article...I would like to send you an email, or can u send me an email. Thanks.
- From: rf (@ 3.10.63.207.lth2.k12.il.us)
on: Mon Aug 6 20:02:37 EDT 2001
jeera, very interesting. was Khal Nayak really good? I have heard the song, too noisy but quite different.
very very good, so now we could see competition for IR n ARR!!!
as elfman says, hollywood is mostly about luck and timing much less about talent.
- From: UVII (@ 63.225.17.254)
on: Tue Aug 7 18:41:23 EDT 2001
Any news on Kutti film songs?, when is the album going to be released?. I read somewhere that the film is going to be released soon.
- From: UVII (@ 63.225.17.254)
on: Wed Aug 8 11:41:21 EDT 2001
Review of Kutti in Tamilcinema
http://www.tamilcinema.com/cinenews.asp?fname=Kutti.htm
Read about IR's music
- From: LEELS (@ spider-loh-te064.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Aug 9 07:02:02 EDT 2001
just heard kadhal saathi after reading the reviews by u guys (so called hcirf), what a disappointment.also heard thalapathi and pagal nilavu and repeatedly 'poomalayey'- what a difference. makes u think whether its the same person!!. whatever ever happened to those haunting tunes.
disappointted (for the last few yrs ) IR FAN.
- From: leels (@ spider-loh-te064.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Aug 9 07:04:03 EDT 2001
sorry about the extra 't'.
- From: krishna (@ mailserver01.sb.com)
on: Thu Aug 9 08:25:49 EDT 2001
I have the total opposite perspective..."Kathal Jaadhi" is one of my favorite albums..My feeling after listening to the album was that only Raja could produce such melodious rustic tunes and how he is a class above above the rest.
- From: Venki (@ 216.115.36.65)
on: Thu Aug 9 09:44:21 EDT 2001
Kadhal Saathi is absolutely a good album. Typical IR brand melodies. It's been long time since I heared songs like that...
- From: pg (@ 167.211.200.150)
on: Thu Aug 9 10:31:58 EDT 2001
Wanted pstats for this song :
adi araichu araichu kuzhaichu kuzhaichu - manO, s.jAnaki
Does anybody know which film this song is from ?
- From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ jhb-cache18.jaring.my)
on: Thu Aug 9 12:13:04 EDT 2001
Kathal Sathi is really outstanding.But what about the story?Story must be very nice.There is no problem for Raja music.That is very easy to him.Heis the one and only musical genius.See lah IR quality movies recently.There is no ending to this genius.Everybody must respect him.He is the TFM saviour.There is one and only Raja in Music and that is our Maestro Illaiyaraja.Raja's latest movies songs Kutti,kathal sathi,Friends,kanna Unnai Thedukiren,Bharathy,karuvellampookel and many more.Go and listen to Lajja song which IR composed music.There is no better songs in HFM than this one.There is no question about Raja BGM.He is the king of music.All the best to Our ragadevan.
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