Topic started by outsider (@ 63.100.210.76) on Wed Jul 24 09:05:56 EDT 2002.
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Shankar-Ganesh are the second most prolific music composers in tamil, after MS Vishwanathan.
Their works deserve to be analysed.
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- From: Oustsider (@ 64.0.99.201)
on: Thu Aug 1 08:01:49 EDT 2002
Thanks Sundar
- From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63)
on: Thu Aug 1 10:59:20 EDT 2002
Outsider -
I hope you did get my email address. I posted it here a few days ago. FYI, here it is again:
naaz99@yahoo.com
Thanks.
- From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Fri Aug 2 09:43:12 EDT 2002
yes Naaz, I have got it. thanks.
- From: outsider (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Sat Aug 3 03:48:31 EDT 2002
A surprising fact is that S-G composed some
quality songs in languages other han Tamil.
I had heard a handful of their composed songs
in Kannada a nd Telugu, a few years ago. I was
really impressed with the liveliness and vividness
of their compositions. Almost all their songs
that I heard belonged to the 1980's.
- From: outsider (@ 66.119.33.135)
on: Mon Aug 5 01:41:52 EDT 2002
ANYONE TO FURTHER COMMENT ON IT?
- From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198)
on: Mon Aug 5 02:34:30 EDT 2002
no one
- From: outsider (@ 216.148.244.38)
on: Mon Aug 5 02:53:03 EDT 2002
peeps, dont be jealous, sir.
- From: outsider (@ 216.148.246.70)
on: Wed Aug 7 11:41:16 EDT 2002
To the "silent majority":
This message is for everyone who visits all these
tfm forum pages. Please do post something. Give expression to your thoughts. It will come out in something better for these fora. And if you would
not, you will also have to experience frustration by seeing the same pages time and again.
Everyone should say something.
- From: OUTSIDER (@ 63.100.210.76)
on: Fri Aug 9 09:24:43 EDT 2002
ANY TELUGU OR KANNADA MUSIC DISCUSSIN FORUM
ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB? ANYONE KNOWS?
- From: outsider (@ )
on: Sat Aug 24 03:04:20 EDT 2002
Someone to elaborate on SG's non-Taamil compositions. In Kannada songs like Chakravyoohaa......, in Telugoo some quality
songs. I am referring to original songs not
re-make or dubbed version.
- From: outsider (@ 195.213.229.12)
on: Sat Aug 24 04:34:40 EDT 2002
Here is the modified reproduction of the previous
posting:
I think there are many non-tamil southerners who
visit this website.
Someone to elaborate on SG's non-Taamil compositions? Kannada, songs Like "Chakravyoohaa......", in Telugoo some quality songs. (I don't remember the words of any song). I am referring to original songs only, not re-makes or dubbed versions.
- From: abinesh (@ 61.11.79.128)
on: Wed Aug 28 00:15:55 EDT 2002
What about the song
"Maasi Maasam Thaan,Ketti Mela thaalam thaan" from Oor Kaavalan. I think it was a wonderful song by SG
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Wed Aug 28 01:57:14 EDT 2002
Abinesh,
>>>>"Maasi Maasam Thaan,Ketti Mela thaalam thaan" from Oor Kaavalan. I think it was a wonderful song by SG<<<<<
True! On listening to it for the first time itself, I fell for it!
- From: LP (@ 162.119.64.100)
on: Wed Aug 28 12:49:53 EDT 2002
Music director for 'Oor Kaavalan' is not SG.. If i remember right, it should be Chandrabose...
- From: Abinesh (@ 61.11.77.75)
on: Thu Aug 29 00:29:29 EDT 2002
No, Oor Kavalan is by SG, not Chandrabose.I'm sure of it.
http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/10090.16.49.17.html
- From: outsider (@ 216.236.220.220)
on: Fri Aug 30 10:16:36 EDT 2002
Just like Shankar-Gane~sh, another music
composer that is completely ignored by most
of the Taamilians is Gangai Amran.
Such weird, inexplicable apathy!
- From: Chand (@ 12.16.33.89)
on: Fri Aug 30 12:03:46 EDT 2002
Shankar-Ganesh duo are definetely excellent composers who didn't get the recognition they deserve! Some of their outstanding compositions:
1. Mehamey mehamey - Vani - palaivana cholai
2. Devi vandha neram - Vani &SPb - vandichakram
3. Muthu muthu - Vani - Aaniver
4. Malargale - Spb SPs - Theeratha vilayattu pillai
5. Raman pola - spb - Thottal sudum
6. Oru kadhal devadhai - spb sj - Idayathamarai
7. Vanam arugil - kj - Nyayatharasu
8. Unai ethanai murai - spb ps - Neeya
9. Nan padum padal - tms - ??? (mgr film)
10. Athi kalayail - spb - kalyana kalam
anymore?
- From: outsider (@ 195.73.17.158)
on: Sun Sep 1 02:13:01 EDT 2002
Anyone else to start the topic about
Gangai Amaran's merits, or I, like
this one about Shankar-Ganesh, will have
to start it???
The purpose for starting a topic about these
MD's is not as much about enlisting their
songs, it is more about discussing their
musical compositions' merits and demerits.
- From: outsider (@ 195.73.17.156)
on: Sun Sep 1 02:18:37 EDT 2002
And it needs not be said that the difference of opinions will be a boon, not a curse.
- From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182)
on: Sun Sep 1 03:39:12 EDT 2002
outsider, on Gangai Amaran, please refer (and revive if you want to discuss): http://newtfmpage.com/forum/26949.14508.03.41.54.html
http://www.newtfmpage.com/my/lyricist/ganga.html
http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/27969.22.42.50.html
- From: outsider (@ 202.163.65.3)
on: Mon Sep 2 07:35:57 EDT 2002
bb, it will not suffice, for the information
there is scanty, shallow and incomplete.
Everyone should be discussed in enttirety.
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.76.183)
on: Tue Sep 3 07:16:46 EDT 2002
Dear outsider,
Pl start a page for Gangai Amaran. Very deserving MD. Outspoken and unassuming MD. I have met him and discussed his songs with him. I have some interesting inputs to share with you. When are you going to start?
- From: outsider (@ 202.163.65.3)
on: Thu Sep 5 02:45:41 EDT 2002
Unfortunately, R. Sundar, I am going to be
away from internet for some time.
How will it be that you start this topic?
- From: outsider (@ 216.236.220.221)
on: Mon Sep 9 01:42:38 EDT 2002
Rpm Sundar,
Sir, where are you???
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.81.112)
on: Mon Sep 9 06:15:15 EDT 2002
Outsider,
I am here only. Since now you are also here, pl start GA thread immediately. I dont have good rasi in starting threads.
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.219)
on: Mon Sep 9 09:35:36 EDT 2002
In another thread "Some great Non-IR songs of the 70's and 80's", Saravanan and I had discussed (albeit in the passing!), some excellent songs by GA. I wouldn't mind dwelling on them a little more if someone starts a new thread on GA!
- From: outsider (@ 216.236.220.221)
on: Wed Sep 11 01:58:12 EDT 2002
Tried to open the thread, but this time all
the efforts have gone in vain as the server
stops responded whenever I try to post
- From: outsider (@ 216.236.220.221)
on: Wed Sep 11 02:00:03 EDT 2002
Error:
Read responding instead of responded
- From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198)
on: Wed Sep 11 02:21:53 EDT 2002
Yesterday in JayaTV's Ari Giri they interviewed Ganesh of SG..They were making fun of him like anything..
Baaski: "IR recording bothu avar ellam windowsayum muda solliduvaramey...but still neenga eppidiyavathu tune thirudiduveengalamey..athu eppidi?Vella dress pota yaarayum IR recording room pakkama allow panna maatangalamey..unmaya?
He also said whn a IR song comes("Ora therinjukiten..olagam purinjukitaen") soon a SG song comes("Samsaaram athu misaaram")..
Many kindals like that..but he never lost his temper..he says its all inspiration and directors ask for such songs..
Has he composed for more than 1000 films?Promise?
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.78.139)
on: Wed Sep 11 05:46:35 EDT 2002
Peeps,
S-G must have composed nearly 1000 films all languages put together. They are excellent composers (particularly Shankar) and many melodies still linger in us to this day. Just because Bosskey had commented something things wont change. They had been in this field several years before IR arrived and had composed some good melodies. They never had any pretensions to greatness and any movie that was assigned to them they did well. Atleast one song in each film they did was excellent. Copying in tfm had been there right from Papanasam Sivan period and there is nothing wrong. Who are this Hari & Giri to talk about SG? They know nothing.
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Thu Sep 12 07:14:59 EDT 2002
Sundar,
Sir, the thread about Gangai Amran is open now.
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Mon Sep 16 10:25:40 EDT 2002
Has everyone ever noted that Taamilian music
directors (MSV, SG) did better in Telugu and Kannada than vice versa?
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Mon Sep 16 10:30:36 EDT 2002
Slip:
Anyone instead of everyone.
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Wed Sep 18 09:11:07 EDT 2002
"Angae maara munnoo vachchaale veerikin vittaale soorkoo appaala ............" is this a song by
S-G?
- From: &((P#@$#^&**()(())^&^% (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Thu Sep 19 03:39:34 EDT 2002
&*^%#@$%^*
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.82.190)
on: Fri Sep 20 07:51:42 EDT 2002
Classical musicians who have sung under S_G:
Dr. M. Balamuralikrishna
Bangalore Ramani Ammal
Madurai Somasundaram
(Radha)Jayalakshmi
Anyone else?
- From: Rgpm Sundar (@ 61.11.77.237)
on: Sat Sep 21 00:08:57 EDT 2002
Classical musicians who has sung under S-G:
Dr.M.Balamuralikrishna- Ramanum neeye krishnanum neeye ( Uyarnthavargal), Kalai nila aadinaal(Kaman Pandigai)
Bangalore Ramani Ammal-Modhagamum athirasamum vaikkinrom ( Velum Mayilum thunai)
(Radha)-Jayalakshmi- Akhilamellam vilangum amman arul ( Amman arul)
Madurai Somu- Thanaivan vazhai thunaivan (Sashti viratham)
Any one else ?
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.235)
on: Sat Sep 21 01:53:45 EDT 2002
R Sundar: One more song which (Radha)Jayalakshmi sang for SG was 'Aadu raatte' from Nathayil Muthu. Her co-singer was another SG! (Seergazhi Govindarajan)
- From: outsider (@ 203.91.150.145)
on: Sun Sep 22 00:39:47 EDT 2002
Well, now to make this topic to cover S-G in some
entirety, let us see the other aspect of the picture: what were the main defects, limitatons of S-G. To be discussed with sincerity and wholesomeness.
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.77.23)
on: Sun Sep 22 04:43:50 EDT 2002
"Idhaya thaamarai" had one beautiful number "Oru kaadhal devadhai boomiyil vandhaal".. i still feel that it was so dangerously close to an IR way of composing and for a very long time i was thinking the song was by IR..!!
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