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Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

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• From: Anand Mahadevan (@ 192.11.226.123) on: Thu Apr 19 14:01:06 EDT 2001
  
  One of the important virtue's for a composer is to quit playing instruments. Else his musical work will be a resultant of that instrument. IR quit playing guitar once he got into composing.
  This gave him the ability to see the big picture.
  The same is also true for Bach & company.
  To step out of the instrumenalist shoes and get into the composer's will definetly help the budding, so called composers(including ARR) to give more mature works.
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Thu Apr 19 14:21:06 EDT 2001
  
  I dont think so, playing an instrument is a skill, if they are good in that I dont know why a composer should give it away.
  
  Can you tell me how can this improve to produce mature works?
  
  
  
  
  
• From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Thu Apr 19 14:23:12 EDT 2001
  
  key point to note here is a composer should have the ability to think like other instrumentalists,
  regardless of he playing it or not.
  
  
  
  
• From: bm (@ 172.129.147.115) on: Thu Apr 19 14:30:17 EDT 2001
  
  Anand M,
  "The same is also true for Bach & company"
  dont know how true it was...as for beethoven and mozart .. they were both great pianists and continued to play for long .! i will be happy and to know (if u can provide us with some links) about the contrary. as for the wcm maesteros..most of them were violin / piano players and have come up with wonderful compositions for the orchestra..i dont see their failure to see the big picture despite being good instrumentalists ... ! i dont agree that playing an instrument for long influences one's composing !
  
  
• From: Anand Mahadevan (@ 192.11.226.123) on: Thu Apr 19 14:45:53 EDT 2001
  
  bm,
  Agreed mozart was a great painist but that was
  only a manifestation of his thought process.
  He did'nt use the piano for his compositions nor
  did he see his work as pianist.
  Mozart for most part wrote his work without an
  instrument(Watch the movie Amadeus).
  I guess we should open a seperate thread for this.
  Lets continue discussing IR new albums.
  
  
• From: bm (@ 172.129.147.115) on: Thu Apr 19 14:59:18 EDT 2001
  
  AM,
  i only responded to ur statement of being an instrumentalist doesnt help the composer see the big picture..! and never said he used the piano to compose !
  
  
• From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227) on: Thu Apr 19 16:05:48 EDT 2001
  
  Analog,
  
  "Rahman's major chunk belongs to POP, isn't it?"
  
  I'm not sure.It would involve the drudgery of going thro his songs and classifying and quantifying them.I'm yawning thinking about that.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Thu Apr 19 16:29:05 EDT 2001
  
  "I'm yawning"
  
  contagious..I get it now...Haaaaoooooooffffe.
  
  
• From: kooththan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Thu Apr 19 16:34:06 EDT 2001
  
  Trend said: "I think this should be seen from a contextual perspective and not a absolute one.I think his thoughts seem to convey the feeling people are misusing it in a lot of instances. "
  
  Didn't this whole digression start because Trend didn't like Kiru reading between the lines of IR's comments?
  
  And now, Trend is reading between the lines of ARRs comment?!
  
  yaaruppa ange,
  
  namma manu neethi cholan saara oruvaatti vara sollungappa! neethi ketkanum!
  
  ....later
  
  
• From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227) on: Thu Apr 19 16:38:27 EDT 2001
  
  kooththan,
  
  Maybe you are right.But "hiding behind technology" is a hypothesis beyond intolerable degree.
  
  If you think what I said is intolerable too,I'll take it back and sorry for hypothesising like that in the first place.
  
  
• From: prakash (@ 172.130.237.158) on: Thu Apr 19 18:56:20 EDT 2001
  
  http://www.screenindia.com/music7.htm
  read this -although written keeping hindi film composers(read as 'indian'film composers, this is quite good-i think raaja satisfies all the criteria with flying colors(although in my opinion he isd above all this yard sticks)
  
  
• From: bm (@ 172.145.229.155) on: Thu Apr 19 19:35:36 EDT 2001
  
  this rajiv vijayakar is the same guy who writes in rediff as DR.RAJIV VIJAYAKAR ..?
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 64.173.9.199) on: Thu Apr 19 22:23:23 EDT 2001
  
  To set the record straight - I did not say 'ARR is hiding behind technology'. Interested people should read my exact comments which goes like. "Also, it is the media's responsibility to comment about the music/trend etc..Can IR say SAR's music sucks ? Deva is one hell of a copy cat ? ARR is hiding behind technology ? (okay..I made these up..I am not saying it is IR's opinion). No..it is not good thing to say. So these sort of questions should never be asked (see IR says he is an insider). "
  My comment is totally different than what it is being made out to be.
  
  
• From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.226) on: Fri Apr 20 01:38:55 EDT 2001
  
  Where can find Andan Adimai songs?
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.132) on: Fri Apr 20 06:24:55 EDT 2001
  
  What ARR is doing now is what IR had done when he took over from older MSV...introducing a lot of WM and instruments like th Oboe and Horn and really giving a classy and sophisticated touch to TFM at that time...so ARR had done justice by digitizing music as it the trend today...times have changed, accept it....no point in calling "Pop" music trash or accusing ARR of "hiding beyond technology"...achievements speak louder than words and ARR's achievements prove it...u can't deny that his songs don't sound good or pull your heart strings...if you do then it is only your spite and hate speaking...
  
  IR had previously said in a TV interview on DD in 1991 during the release of "Thalapathi" - "music is just 7 notes and their combination"...
  genius lies in knowing how to combine these notes to get the effect desired (my addtion)....both IR and ARR have done it well enough and are still doing it for their respective audiences.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.5.219) on: Fri Apr 20 08:12:18 EDT 2001
  
  Cosmician:
  "hiding beyond technology"
  Did you really read Kiru's posting properly? Who has told like this...that's a satire by Kiru and if some are not intelligent enough to understand...
  
  both IR and ARR have done it well enough
  I'm finding tough to identify even 15 songs in which ARR had done it "well enough" and how some people can put both of them in the same level is difficult to comprehend:-(
  
  
• From: badri (@ 202.9.148.232) on: Fri Apr 20 10:25:35 EDT 2001
  
  "THENDRAL VARHUM MUNNE MUNNE THEMMAAHNGU VARUM PINNE PINNE"
  SCINTILLATING STUFF OF ILAIRAAJA FOR film DHARMASEELAN
  VIOLIN NOTES THAT DRIVE US TO THE 1st CHARANAM OF THE SONG!!
  ANOTHER GREATEST MUSICAL IMPACT FOR HUMAN ON EARTH.
  
  In the book from sembulum publications INTERVIEWER :PREM-RAMESH says
  even cameraman like THANGARBACHAN had tough time in reaching out for
  a beautiful location for the BGM ILAIRAAJA SCORES,
  MOST OF THE TIME THE SHOT(to mean after shooting) LOCATION FOR CAMERA WAS UNFULLFILLING
  for CAMERAMEN .
  
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Fri Apr 20 11:11:29 EDT 2001
  
  eden,
  I am getting tired ..thanks for helping me out :) cosmician..firstu posting nallA padingappA..naan onnum ARR music paRRi theriyAthavan alla.. I along with other musically knowledgeable people wrote a html doc on ARR's song structure/style. I will forward that to you if I have it anywhere.
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Fri Apr 20 12:21:36 EDT 2001
  
  eden:
  
  I'm finding tough to identify even 15 songs in which ARR had done it "well enough"
  
  
  Probabaly, you might have heard only twenty of his songs. Try to hear more. You will still have just 5 to quote as bad ones.
  
  Okay. I am going thru your collection of 1000 songs. I would like to send you back the same .xls file with my comments( or grade to say how much I liked it) for each songs on that. This is because, for the first 300 songs that I have heard or tried to recollect, some have impressed me , but many makes me feel that how such a song can be called a great one. Few songs I could not recollect, may be I might not have heard them at all. My source of film music over the last 18 years has largely been AIR.
  Since, you have arranged them in alphabetical order of film names, I beleive that I will get many great ones as I scroll thru.
  
  I have one complaint. In the film Anjali, you have only put four songs, if I am right. It is one of my faveroit albums and all the songs are great and well ahead of ARR time. Had Sound Engg. been that good to those songs, it would have sounded even greater.
  
  
  
• From: hari (@ 129.116.226.162) on: Fri Apr 20 12:45:22 EDT 2001
  
  Dear eden,
  
  can u send me that list of 1000 songs? My email is hariprasad77@hotmail.com
  
  thanx
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.139.40) on: Fri Apr 20 14:35:48 EDT 2001
  
  Who is the MD for 'En Bommukkutti Ammaavukku' ?
  
  Those who say IR - please visit this page.,
  
  http://tamil.cinesouth.com/cgi-bin/persondb.cgi?name=yuvan shankarraja&role=music director
  
  Sema Joke :-) Antha padam vantahppo YSRkku 8 vayasu irukkumaa ? ;-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Fri Apr 20 15:07:45 EDT 2001
  
  Anjali was one of the well-recorded tamil albums. Common Friend, could you give us a primer on 'good sound engg' ?
  
  
• From: kooththan (@ 198.73.152.100) on: Fri Apr 20 15:19:21 EDT 2001
  
  Nagas,
  
  I too was surprised to see 'en bommukutti ammavukku' and 'thaalaattu ketkuthamma' among Yuvan's filmography.
  
  But, if you click to see the details, it the Music Director - Illayaraja.
  
  ....later
  
  
• From: arai drouser senthil (@ 207.188.29.249) on: Fri Apr 20 15:19:45 EDT 2001
  
  CF said....
  "This is because, for the first 300 songs that I have heard or tried to recollect, some have impressed me , but many makes me feel that how such a song can be called a great one. Few songs I could not recollect, may be I might not have heard them at all."
  
  Yeah.... when u say 'poove semboove' is by Chandra Bose.... what to do??????
  
  
• From: Gowndamani (@ 63.224.65.186) on: Fri Apr 20 17:49:35 EDT 2001
  
  Paravayillai enn sishyan puthisali ayyitaan...kalakitta
  
  

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