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IR's new albums!

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
All times in EDT/EST +9:30/10:30 for IST.

A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

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• From: Pandu (@ 203.199.236.19) on: Thu Jan 25 08:44:19 EST 2001
  
  Hi Prasad,
  
  Your final statement agrees to all your disagreed points prior to that. The truth always comes at the end.
  
  MSV did an 'instrumental orchestral melodies' compilation of ten theme music in 74 for HMV. Even today tunes from that LP record (Todays ALBUM) are used in AIR and Srilanka Broadcasting corporation between programmes as fillers between announcements. Even his counter part TK Ramamurthy individually composed a 'Carnatic Jazz' album for HMV. Both these LPs were super success at that time. It is unfortunate that a lousy HMV administration has not promoted CDs, cassetes and the composers after that. It really had all the variety in music. What Iam referring to is to your querry about How to name it! Yes, there is a precedence for that too by MSV and TKR. Try to listen to that too before naming anybody!
  
  We do respect IR as a hardworking MD with a hardworking down-shadowed team with sasi, Puru, Sundarrajan, VS Narasimhan, Sekar, Jaicha, Viji Manual etc., on watching and enquiring closely.
  
  Just one thing, A Megalomania and a sychopancy as an 'avathar', the first of its kind etc., is all crap and unacceptable. MD is a TEAM work!
  
  
• From: Bhagavathar (@ 209.43.57.58) on: Thu Jan 25 08:49:57 EST 2001
  
  IR talks about the importance of BGM in TFM. He
  says "music hides directors mistakes. Music can express things what director's cannot". Read his speech here:
  
  http://www.dinamalar.com/2001jan25/index3.htm
  
  (You need dinamalar font to read this. Here is the link to the font download:
  
  http://www.dinamalar.com/font.htm
  
  
• From: Veerabagu (@ 203.199.236.19) on: Thu Jan 25 09:01:09 EST 2001
  
  Prasad,
  
  He might have used other MDs as assistants -
  >> There was a write up in Kumudham in 90 which stated that MSV is doing assistant Music director work for IR. The truth was that MSV had accepted IRs movie directed by Kalaivanan Kannadasan, on request from IR to facilitate early release.
  
  It would have been appropriate for IR to give a press release denying the facts in the Kumudham writeup and telling the truth. That would have been the best thing to offer a Senior MD like MSV honouring him, even better punniyam in his bio- data more than the Rajagopurams built, Swamijis worshipped and Thiruvannamalais visited! But IR remained quiet! Even after years, until date, he has not talked about it. MDs like IR should be humane too! Fans including me who like his 'Sangeetham' would also like to see his 'Ingitham'.
  
  If that is a fact, this is a fact too!
  
  
• From: Ego (@ 209.187.151.146) on: Thu Jan 25 09:18:28 EST 2001
  
  nvd:
  
  Your last point seems to be apt for IR's downturn early 1993 till 1998. But now IR (IMHO) has realized this and more open to the idea that movie is a
  teamwork and TFM has other great talents too! Anyhow, IR is still unchallenged in terms of soul-catching melodies.
  
  NOV, You have the answer right there in your message why he is not giving such melodies now. IR needs his ego and arrogance to come up with such compositions. I liked his personality before but when I see the changes in him nowadays, I simply couldn't accept him as the way I did before. Anyway enough for digression.
  
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.203.137) on: Thu Jan 25 09:38:19 EST 2001
  
  Dear Friends
  You Guys argue so much have anyone of you had any oppurtuntiy of meeting Mr IR.
  I had back in 1997 in Hyd.bad.
  And he was such a gentle and humble person.
  I walked from the crowd and approached him,he was discussing something with his fellow artist.
  He could have turned away or asked his assistants to take care. But he didnt do that,but was gentle and answered my questions patiently.
  If he was really the person you guys are saying I think things would have been different
  I think Mr.IR is very nice person personally,our press makes demons out of angels and angels out of demons they are such a hypocrites.
  so dont go just by the press.
  BTW someone was talking about IR and RajaGopuram
  MR let me tell you onething have you ever undertaken any such task in your life.
  Do you know the responsiblities of such important social religious task. Mr IR did that wonderfully.
  So dont bring or compare these issues.
  
  
• From: :-| (@ 192.135.244.69) on: Thu Jan 25 10:35:43 EST 2001
  
  I have a lot of friends who have met Raja in person (a coupla them post regularly in this DF)
  and till date none of them have said Raja was arrogant. One mr. madan from goa had spent 1.5 days with Raja and was ecstatic about the meeting
  
  One of my dad's friend also visited him when Raja was at his peak (86-90: he visited him in 87) and
  he too was of that opinion that he's a nice person
  to talk to.
  
  I donno these guys come from somewhere having read some article by the likes of D S Ramanujam (for one) and talk about ingidham and all that...
  
  Unless u have met someone or know the real reason
  behind some incidents, one shudn't comment about anybody.....i can always say, hey i know this xyz character and i heard from his uncle's aththimbar that this guy is a crook and so on...
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.30) on: Thu Jan 25 11:22:33 EST 2001
  
  My thoughts:
  
  Any talented and famous personality will not show his ego and arrogance to his fans, unless he is arrogance personified. The ego surfaces only when he has to interact with some other famous/talented person. That ego/arrogance is necessary, he thinks, to prove his superiority over the other person.
  
  But when he talks to a fan, he knows he does not need that ego/arrogance to prove his superiority. That so called fan is a very small person compared to him, and hence the humility.
  
  Of course, there are hard-core arrogant people who show that to everybody, including fans.
  
  
• From: Subbiah (@ 192.39.1.92) on: Thu Jan 25 11:56:21 EST 2001
  
  Meet IR once in person and you would realise how nice man he is...
  
  I met him last year... he was very obliging and answered the queries / posed for photos inspite of lot of crowd and urgency.
  
  Nice to fans & arrogant to media - could not resist my laughter at this imaginative argument. Sorry doubter - u r proving your name.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on: Thu Jan 25 12:18:47 EST 2001
  
  Read about friends and its music
  
  http://tamil.chennaionline.com/cinema/vimarsanam/friends.asp
  
  
  
• From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.116) on: Thu Jan 25 13:44:48 EST 2001
  
  Subbaiah
  
  Did I ever say anything about 'media' in my posting?
  
  
• From: sats (@ 139.177.224.100) on: Thu Jan 25 14:27:23 EST 2001
  
  SPB honoured with padmashree award , latha mangeshkar bharath rathna
  
  felt very bad that IR was not given anything
  
  
• From: Bhagavathar (@ 209.43.56.144) on: Thu Jan 25 15:56:25 EST 2001
  
  I will never say IR is arrogant but he has big ego. Its common to people who knows their stuff especially when they are among empty vessels that make more noice. IR still ruling TFM even now,its almost 25 years. When IR came to TFM within 10 years he eclipsed every one even MSV. But ARR or others cannot do it to IR. He churns out fresh tunes and his BGM is unbeatable. ARR is really arrogant as if he has achieved something great. He has limited skills and he survives because of that.
  
  People talk about IR has copied some songs. Its common with MDs even those days Ramanathan copied music from others. IR has given thousands of songs but bashers can give just few copied songs which you can count with your fingers. MDs who have been in the field for 8 years copy from MSV, IR, KVM etc., and they ran out of gas.
  
  
• From: Vem (@ 129.186.5.201) on: Thu Jan 25 16:15:40 EST 2001
  
  Guys
  If anyone likes to listen to songs from pow(Tik 3) please find the golden collection in Raaga.com.
  
  It has updated some evergreen numbers from the genius.
  
  
  
• From: Bhagavathar (@ 209.43.56.144) on: Thu Jan 25 17:21:13 EST 2001
  
  Here is another review for Friends:
  
  http://www.the-hindu.com/stories/09260223.htm
  
  
• From: PRASAD (@ 24.189.124.91) on: Thu Jan 25 18:56:26 EST 2001
  
  Hi! Pandu!
  Your final statement agrees to all your disagreed points prior to that. The truth always comes at the end.
  
  >> It has to be my last statement because this is IR forum which reaches die hard IR fans. I don't want to hurt them and anyhow that was not the purpose as well. No one is perfect in this world.
  
  MSV did an 'instrumental orchestral melodies' compilation of ten theme music in 74 for HMV. Even today tunes from that LP record (Todays ALBUM) are used in AIR and Srilanka Broadcasting corporation between programmes as fillers between announcements. Even his counter part TK Ramamurthy individually composed a 'Carnatic Jazz' album for HMV. Both these LPs were super success at that time. It is unfortunate that a lousy HMV administration has not promoted CDs, cassetes and the composers after that. It really had all the variety in music. What Iam referring to is to your querry about How to name it! Yes, there is a precedence for that too by MSV and TKR. Try to listen to that too before naming anybody!
  
  >>This is a real news to me. Thanks! Should here them some time.
  
  
  We do respect IR as a hardworking MD with a hardworking down-shadowed team with sasi, Puru, Sundarrajan, VS Narasimhan, Sekar, Jaicha, Viji Manual etc., on watching and enquiring closely.
  
  >> I can't recognize anybody's name here as MD except VS Narasimham. Do they have atleast one movie to their credit(Not asking in sarcastic way. Just asking for info.). Now coming to the point, all these artists, had they worked in IR group, definitely contributed towards his outcome. If say IR comes up with a happening tune and say a flute interlude, he will definitely discuss this with the concerned artist. Sometimes the artist could give some ideas which could be better and improvised version of what IR conceived. That way they contribute, I agree. But this is not only the case with IR. MSV too had such members in the troup.(team work). Did MSV gave credit to such fellow artist openly?(Again not sarcastic). To my knowledge No? If they start giving credits like that openly, people will start thinking what MD was doing? In which case why IR alone becomes the target of attack?
  
  But I agree that there should be some way that these guys are to be appreciated.
  
  I don't know what is the real source of your info. However close these members may be to you(even if it is your father or brother), they may not tell the truth. Always in all places in all professions in the world, people think that they do more, but get little.
  
  In my opinion, if any of them are fully talented to become an individual MD, some director or other might have really trusted them. So let we give the benefit of doubt to a genius like IR in this case.
  
  Just one thing, A Megalomania and a sychopancy as an 'avathar', the first of its kind etc., is all crap and unacceptable. MD is a TEAM work!
  
  >> I agree with you on this. But as I listen to others in the forum, IR has changed a lot. Such self-centricity could happen to people who has reached heights beyond their own expectations. Continous appreciations from all quarters are likely to mask their eyes and senses. I am not ready to substantiate that this is right. But again very few people are able handle themself properly under such situation. Evidently IR was not one. But considering his achievment, let us forgive him and hope that he don't repeat any such mistakes.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.167.213) on: Thu Jan 25 20:09:51 EST 2001
  
  Such self-centricity could happen to people who has reached heights beyond their own expectations.
  
  How do you know this. If you quote example of IR-Vairamuthu fight, that is total nonsense. I have seen VM's speech on many occasions. He can talk anything for money. He has a big mouth.
  
  IR-Mani, Balachander might be due to various reasons. I don't want to comment on this.
  
  IR is still havig good relationship with Panchu Arunasalam, Keyaar etc..etc. If you see singers S. Janaki, SPB are still singing in his movies. I see lot of fury over Arunmozhi singing. Arunmozhi would have sung less than 2% of total songs composed by IR. This fury is unnecessary.
  
  MD is a team work!
  
  If that is the case why others could not shine like IR. The reason for IR's longlasting is his tunes were so successful. He was able to create excellent tunes out of his mind. Basically, he felt himself 'avatar' because of such creations.
  many eccentrics do that way.
  
  But again very few people are able handle themself properly under such situation.
  
  I that the reason for his successful completion of 800 movies?
  
  Our job is to commenet on his music and not on his personality. Nobody's perfect. Everybody has flaws.
  
  Remember!
  
  "When you poinnt finger toward somebody, your thumb points yourself"
  
  I have always found great music out of him. how good or bad he is, who bothers.
  
  

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