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Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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• From: MPR (@ 201-34-74.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Oct 20 13:19:04 EDT 1998
  
  MSK,
  
  You are welcome.
  
  
  
• From: Gokul (@ 209.149.247.66) on: Tue Oct 20 15:58:43 EDT 1998
  
  MSK/MPR/Gopal
  
  ippadi veruppEthAtheenga gOpal.:-)
  
  How come none of these albums are available in US?
  I have been searching for weeks. Couldnt find MVU or DG anywhere.
  
  
• From: MPR (@ 205-234-220.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Oct 20 16:39:14 EDT 1998
  
  Gokul,
  
  DG is only two weeks old, so we can
  understand why it isn't available in US.
  But MVU was released last month and is
  available in canada (from Mano's message),
  soon they will be here too, I guess. Till
  then read Gopal's messages :-))
  
  
• From: Mano (@ ecarh800.nortel.com) on: Tue Oct 20 16:50:06 EDT 1998
  
  Gokul: MVU is released by Ramy records, though I'm not sure who holds the copy rights. I'm definitely sure that ramy records has branch in States, so it should be available.
  
  
• From: Gopal Prasad (@ 122.knoxville-01.tn.dial-access.att.net) on: Tue Oct 20 19:52:59 EDT 1998
  
  MSK, MPR, Gokul, guys
  
  I donno how many of you have been listening to
  MVU. Here is the first instalment of my review.
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  yEdhO yEdhO
  by Hari and Swarnalatha
  
  A combo of instruments start this song with a chorus "na na na". Followed by violins the na na na continues....yEdhO yEdhO nenjil oru minnal by Slatha with Raaja setting the BG beat. First of its kind from Raaja. The pallavi comes to an end with the downward strutting of violins four times, and voila you are all set for a treat.
  
  Charanam (mAlaippozhudhum veesumvAdaikkAtRum) is laced with a veena like ‘ersatz' that continues now and then through the charanam.
  The violin ensemble at the BG when Hari renders "nAnAgavE nAnillaiyE" takes you up over kOdaikkAnal free of charge. No tickets!!
  When the charanam ends you are back in the hands of the master magician making you gyrate with the beat that commenced the song, and you have a hum (hari?) at the BG that slowly merges with a macarina kind of loop with a drum (dhigudhigu!)
  rolling into your heart!! Not enough? You have a female chorus that almost ends the macarina loop with violins adding huge huge scores at the BG......Pure western classical ensemble there.
  
  The veena ersatz continues through the second charanam and the beat is there for you to romp around. You feel you are riding on a roller coaster. Here too you have the violins teasing you when Slatha renders "pArkkAdhadhu kErkkAdhadhu"
  like Hari in first charanam "nAnAgavE nAnillaiyE" The feast comes to an end with the male solo hum at the BG......
  
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  iLavEnirrkAlappanchami
  avaL vAnil vandha pournami
  --Hari/ Bhava bg hum
  
  Another different beat from the composer. This beat should be a direct cousin of the twists
  of the sixties! I think the astute Raaja must have danced to his own beat after composing!!
  
  When Hari sings (pallavi)
  yengaL pArvai nindru pOnadhu
  vAnam boomi yenna Aanadhu?
  you are sure to be lifted off!
  
  The first interlude carries the beat as the BG with shehnai/ keyboard ensemble following suit.
  The first two lines of charanam (thookkam pOnadhu....and pArkkum idamellAm....)end
  with "must listen" guitar bits that should shake you off!! Only Raaja can play that bit of
  subtle guitar!!
  
  The second interlude is just as inexplicable as this composer's myriad composing abilities.
  No need of antidepressants, sOmabAnams, or sleeping doses. This song sure to lift you
  off planet earth!! Or, just listen to this song and you must be heading to hold
  someone in your arms at the end of the song! For a twist!!
  
  There are two more excellent songs!Hari has done a good job. I'll be back!!
  
  
• From: The Fan of the Almighty! (@ spider-te012.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Oct 20 20:08:40 EDT 1998
  
  Gopal Prasad:
  
  In you place I was going to write on MVU. Your review is one of the best i have read. MVU is truly outstanding tunes. IR is trascending the universe and also a few mutliverses right now. This God is God of the God's!
  
  Listen to MVU the second time to get to know the newness of the tunes. Except for the rhythms which is now the ARR trend, IR amazes you with each one of the SIXERS!
  
  Gopal Prasad please continue. I am waiting tohea how you captivate us like IR in describing the SPB song and the Chorus number, side B first one.
  
  
• From: MSK (@ marimuth-nt.qualcomm.com) on: Tue Oct 20 20:26:07 EDT 1998
  
  Ayyo Gopal, Konnuteenga..
  
  I listened to Ilavenirkaal song ..Nice one..
  
  Fan of the Almighty,
  
  What is the rythm that u are referring to as ARR style.??
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Swami (@ 129.107.8.138) on: Tue Oct 20 23:59:37 EDT 1998
  
  I got MVU yesterday. Well to be honest, "ilavenir kala panjami" is my first choice. But the rest are ok stuff. No mesmerizing instrumentation, but for the organ note in the other Hariharan song.
  
  >Swami
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ ntws127.cs.wisc.edu) on: Wed Oct 21 01:10:09 EDT 1998
  
  I found Ponnu Veettukkaran better than MVU. The songs "Ilaya nilave" and the solo numbe by HH (and IR) are very good. I found one of the songs sung by SPB (not "Ponnu veettukkaarangale") similar to April Mayile of "Idhayam". In MVU "ilavenir kala panjami" was my favorite too. Even in this, I thought the beat had some influence of Mustafa Mustafa.
  
  
• From: The Fan (@ spider-tk081.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Oct 21 01:24:18 EDT 1998
  
  Please give the MVU one more hearing and you will see a big difference. All the songs are on par with one another. Again, I am just shattered. This album is like KM a bolt from the blue. I thought song four and song 7 Edho Edho were just too perfect tunes. Not at all IR's algorithmic stuff.
  
  MSK
  As I said all beat/rhythms are the ARRR/Deva/Vidyasagar type. Not that IR is dumbfounded or lost ideas but that is what the market is for now, the same pop beats
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.246) on: Wed Oct 21 02:26:03 EDT 1998
  
  observer,
  how come u have a very poor opinion about MVU? can u explain? iam a little bit confused after reading conflicting reviews. i agree tastes are purely subjective but not to this extent.
  
  and the shopkeeper in trichy told me that ponnu veetukaaran is mediocre and not selling well!
  
  
• From: Rajesh (@ pdxss902.pdx.intel.com) on: Wed Oct 21 03:42:01 EDT 1998
  
  Nandhavana.. song from Ponnu Veetukaran is excellent. One of the best songs I have heard recently. The BG teasing violins in the song adds
  value to the song. In MVU, yedho yedho is easily the best. Gopal, dhool reviewing style.
  
  
• From: shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Oct 21 03:57:00 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay,
  Were U there in trichy for diwali????
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.246) on: Wed Oct 21 12:29:44 EDT 1998
  
  shankar,
  nope. i came back about a month ago. but ponnuveetukaaran cassetes had already hit the market. since i do not buy pre-recorded cassetes i did not get the album but asked for the opinion of the shopkeeper ( not supersonic). i do not fully believe in their taste but he said that the albums were not selling well and that nilaave vaa and uyire were selling like hot cakes.
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ ntws103.cs.wisc.edu) on: Wed Oct 21 15:11:53 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay: It is very unfortunate to hear that Ponnu veettukkaaran is not selling well. I thought the songs were great, esp Ilaya nilave and Nandavana kuyile. They were also catchily presented. I wonder very much why they are not commercially successful - maybe its something to do with publicity, and the quality of the movie itself.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.246) on: Wed Oct 21 15:49:31 EDT 1998
  
  kaushik,
  maybe now after the release of the film the sale has picked up. anybody in india knows the situation? are any of IR's new albums in top 5?
  
  
• From: krishna (@ utopia.mse.ufl.edu) on: Wed Oct 21 16:12:56 EDT 1998
  
  any idea where i can the latest thalaivar's (raaja)songs.eager to know.i am presently in the US
  
  
• From: MSK (@ marimuth-nt.qualcomm.com) on: Wed Oct 21 16:30:11 EDT 1998
  
  Kaushik,
  
  That's the whole problem with IR movies these days.. A lot of movies with gema of a songs go to trash b'cos the movie has low profile stars and very weak publicity...
  
  Annan , Veerathaalatu , Kizhakkum Merkum , Poonthottam all met with the same fate.. Good songs but the movies could'nt survive for various reasons.
  
  That's why whenever i see a new IR movie , i ask people abt how the movie is doing. Only if the movie has some life , the songs can survive no matter how good the quality of the songs are .!!
  
  Ellam Neram appa..
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.246) on: Wed Oct 21 17:22:33 EDT 1998
  
  for a change i was happy to see vidyasaagar's songs from nilaave vaa at the top as against deva's or ARR's.
  
  of the above mentioned films poonthottam fared well at the box office. or atleast it figured in the top 5 movies in SUN TV.
  
  
• From: Gopal (@ 5.knoxville-01.tn.dial-access.att.net) on: Wed Oct 21 17:56:23 EDT 1998
  
  MSK
  
  In PVK, iLayanilavE and nandhavanakkuyilu are very good. My love is Raaja's nandhavanakkuyilu. I dont have words to explain this song. The pathos, the arrangement of instruments, above all, the simplicity...Raaja, you are great.
  
  There are two more songs in MVU, I wish to write about. This is no abstemious music by Raaja!! Especially the song "manasakkiLLi yedukkarA vaLLi" a dappankuththu/folk kind of song
  which no other MD in Thamizh, I repeat, no other MD in thamizh can even dream of!!!!They can only listen to that song and COPY it!!!
  
  
• From: Observer (@ spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Oct 21 20:26:03 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay ,
  this is what I felt about MVU,
  iLavEnirkAla panjami , avaL vAnil vantha pournami
  -- nothing great , very simple tune and lyrics. I canNOT justify IR's choice for having this sung by HH. Whenever the songs requires high pitch singing in the middle, HH has failed miserably. His nasal usage is more pronounced and voice modulation is poor. Look at the way he used HH for the number 'Ennai thAlAtta varuvALo' in KM. It is a slow number and required less high pitch singing and the modulation in that song was comparatively OK. IR should have got this sung by SPB instead. Bava's humming is just OK. Overall the rendering is bad and the only plus point about the song is good tune which is as usual IR .
  koottuk kuyilgal
  -- once again by HH. For some reason, the tune does not look new and reminds me i have listened this earlier. This number requires less high pitch and so HH has done nasal singing only at few places. This requires voice modulation in which he has failed again. IR should watchout next time. Could have been sung better by SPB or MANO.
  poomAla ponnukoru
  -- BEST of the lot! by SPB thank IR. Marvellous voice modulation by SPB (as usual). Tune is rejoicing! Lyrics is good too
  " thanga kiLi thoLil vachcha neethanE meenAkshi
  kayil oru karumba thanthA kAnjeevaram kAmAtchi
  onakku munna santhiran udhicha ooru sollum sandiran karuppu,
  onakku Munna vairatha vachcha, mangi pogum vairathin jolippu
  azhagE azhagE...."
  interludes are just awesome (piano piece!). Chorus reminds IR of late 80s.
  manasa kiLLi edukkurA vaLLi
  -- swarnalatha, sn surendar,sreenivas,nepolian. Typical IR like tune, chorus singing is a good part of the song. We have listened great many number of songs like this in the 80's . Though good, sounds OLD. swarnalatha has done decent job. Flute interludes are good.
  vanathil aadum oar nilavu
  -- slow , rythmic , melodious number like "chinnan chiru kiLiye" type in film mundanai mudichchu . I am NOT saying the tune has similarities. I also remember typical slow, sad number in chinna gounder(anda vAnatha pOla manam padaicha mannavanE, i think). This is a simple piece for IR calibre.
  This song is sung by both chitra and mano in parts. If you split the song "chinna chiru kiLiyE" in the two parts and record them , still you could have them inserted in the film. Situations must demand.
  edho edho ennam
  -- good , melodious tune. HH done better in this song. Rendered without much pitch experimentation. Sujatha is good. Violin interludes are excellent. But this is expected out of IR. So no great scores.
  
  Overall, barring the number by SPB (poomala ponnokkoru) , none of the others created any BIG impact on me. May be i am used to all these IR type of tunes before (from 80s) and my expectation was something different (or NEW) from IR. Could have done better usage of any other singers(SPB, MANO) for songs 1 and 2. That would have added value to the album. 4 and 5 should have been more refreshing tunes rather than reminding some of his numbers in the past. Also, I don't see any great piece of orchestration in any song. I am NOT comparing this with GURU. I am comparing with pieces he has done in the 80s and early 90s. So I can rate this album as just ORDINARY, if NOT bad (i cann't say that). IR fans can certainly like this album as being his fans apart from other fact that tastes are very subjective and you may differ in your tastes.
  
  manasa kiLLi and poomala ponnukoru (SPB) are likely to become popular hits.
  
  
• From: The Fan (@ spider-tk071.proxy.aol.com) on: Wed Oct 21 21:33:00 EDT 1998
  
  Observer, that is a conservative review. I am okay with that. You are speaking in terms relative to Raja's capabilities. Please compare to what is available these days in the last six or seven years. I think the songs are fascinating, cannot expect Raja to churn out like his first 500 films. I would MVU as Exceptional songs.
  
  

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