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comparing IR with others...r u agree

Topic started by siva (@ klj-230-241.tm.net.my) on Sun Oct 17 13:05:56 EDT 1999.
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Hey guys nowdays everyone do underestimate about IR capability in way comparing with other musicions... Exspecialy in Malaysia ...
Whats your opinion.....???

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• From: Sabesan (@ ws-209-233-228-254.webvangroup.com) on: Fri Oct 22 18:49:27 EDT 1999
  
  Swami.... just guesses till now about this 'DD' character.... i first thought it was Raj.... then had a doubt it was Srinath in a different 'avathar'.... now i doubt that its 'Srikanth'.... reason is he is the one who from day 1 is hell bent on 'thituffying' IR for the 'symphony' stuffs.... and whenever he does thituffy IR comparing with MSV, all the people here (IR worshippers / non-worshippers) pounce on him and he will disappear (Srikanth enga Sir andha pathu points????).... so i feel he is taking purposely the 'Deva' avathar and enjoying... whoever he is, as rajaG mentioned, 'DD' is 100% not a Deva fan... probably a real IR fan who is 'nothufied' a lot with the latest IR's stuffs....
  
  
• From: vimal (@ enpc2559.eas.asu.edu) on: Fri Oct 22 18:57:01 EDT 1999
  
  hey bb.. did you remove my posting...? Ifso, why may I ask...?
  
  
• From: Devathi Deva (@ ascella.anonymizer.com) on: Fri Oct 22 19:16:15 EDT 1999
  
  Sabesan:
  
  My name is Devarajan, to be precise. Let there not be a mistaken identity. When some 'Desikans' can become 'Raja's, then I hope you can understand my own thoughts behind 'Devathi Deva'. Well that is not the point. The point here is, I have come with a mission and that mission is a vision to make Thenisai Thendral Deva sir known to each and every Tamilian of this cyberworld. "kathiyinri rathaminri yudham onru varuguthu, sathiyathin nithiyathai kandu neeyum arindhideer" - this is my principle. You can hardly see IR's songs in TOP 10 rankings. Maybe our TT Deva Sir might have been kind enough not to sign for more than 8 movies at a time, so that at least the 9th and 10th spot can be reserved for some 'Desikans' to catch up with him!! See the benevolence of our Thenisai Thendral Deva Sir. If copying is what your allegations are, then even you could have become a MD. What prevents all of you from attaining that stature? Come on IR Fans! You guys are too quick to bash Deva Sir and of late my own self. Tell me one good reason, that if Deva Sir is 100% copy, why can't so many Deva's pop up in Tamilnadu?
  
  For me and for the millions of Thenisai Thendral Deva Sir's music is "ORACLE". He might have used some "STORED PROCEDURES" here and there. But he delivers very good "PACKAGES". He has his own "CARTRIDGES" (Sabesh & Murali), who perform the "FUNCTION"s of "DAEMONS" or "LISTENERS". It is they who listen to other requests and tunes, and primarily pass the information to our TT Deva Sir for "ACTION".
  
  All the aforesaid properties of Deva Sir makes me feel enthralled, that I would loudly acclaim him to be the "ORACLE DATABASE OF TAMIL FILM MUSIC"
  
  
• From: Sabesan (@ ws-209-233-228-254.webvangroup.com) on: Fri Oct 22 19:34:27 EDT 1999
  
  hmmm.... something is wrong somewhere.... yaro sonnanga long back that someone has escaped from 'Madras - 10 (Kilpauk)'..... now even i have that doubt....
  
  aioo paavaam ORACLE..... adhukku edhuvum vennum ennamum veenummmm.....
  
  
• From: fan-of-saar-paaNdiyan (@ cache01.erlm.siemens.de) on: Sat Oct 23 06:10:52 EDT 1999
  
  Deva Saar, Oracle music database'la irundhu thaan, ovvoru song'aa veLiya eduththu vittuttu irukkaar! sondhamaa oNNum pOdra maathiri kaaNOm? apdi ethuvum nadandhaa, athu Miracle thaan!
  
  
• From: Devathi Deva (@ ascella.anonymizer.com) on: Sat Oct 23 11:04:55 EDT 1999
  
  What does this word "COMPARISON" mean? You compare those things which can be compared. Rather you can do a comparison amongst the likes. You can never compare apples to oranges. When dignified members of this forum started comparing Deva Sir with IR, there itself they have bestowed their recognition upon Deva Sir as one of the 'best' MDs of TFM. If Deva Sir, is not a force to reckon with, then his name should not deserve a mention anywhere else. That is not the case. So be content with the fact, that Deva is very much a force to reckon with in TFM.
  
  I did listen to the recently released TIME album of IR. It is nowhere near our Deva Sir's KAADHAL KOTTAI. The song Nenachapadi has some tune borrowings from Vellarikaa Pinju Vellarikaa of KADHAL KOTTAI.Listen to that carefully.
  
  Also, Deva Sir's ALAGARSWAMY has been released. Does anyone have any idea as to the success of this album?
  
  
• From: DD_Fan (@ ascella.anonymizer.com) on: Sat Oct 23 21:48:44 EDT 1999
  
  DD,what is Alagarswamy is a success or a failure?TTD Sir is playing symphony in the hearts of millions of his fans (actually, only we two).People,oh sorry,only myself in this forum were/was longing for someone,qualified and intelligent,to popularize TTD Sir's music in this forum and now our long wait is over.I believe you have come straight from TTD Sir's abode.I can find only one mistake in your brilliant postings;comparing TTD Sir with Oracle DBMS would not be a correct idea.TTD sir should be compared with the file "copy" and "cut-and-paste" utilities available in all the systems that we have today.
  I felt so bad that IR has borrowed some tunes from TTD Sir's song.Now I can understand why Time is not good.
  Who are you calling dignified members of this forum?Only you and me deserve a special recognition as we stand as odd men out in this group of HCIRFs and HCARRFs.Besides,only we are using anonymizer domain.(are you a paid member or a free member?)
  For me,ARR and IR are not forces to reckon with in TFM as we have TTD Sir as the lone star shining in this dark world of TFM.As I said earlier,Sirpi and Adhithyan light up some candles occasionally.But only TTD Sir is lighting up TFM with his everlasting tunes.Don't worry soon you will have lot of fans like me and we can together fight for a just cause;to promote TTD Sir's music in this forum.In that way ONLY DFers will be affected.
  
  
• From: siva (@ klj-229-194.tm.net.my) on: Sun Oct 24 13:15:25 EDT 1999
  
  DD & Others TTD fans
  i think IR no need to copy atune frome other musicion...
  altough it seems to like that actualy i realy sure thatt tune is already IR was use at past & suddenly Whom (other musicion) are copy that tune Yesterday, make the 'MAYA' that IR copy it today..
  
  Nowday most of musicion (TTD&SAR) were copy IR tunes... To find it, u have to listen their songs carefully
  
  The song Sivappu Lolakku from film Kadal Kottai Is similar to IR old song ..this fact is inform by Malaysia Tamil Radio on air.....
  
  DD vilanggugindratha
  
  
• From: Siva Fan (@ daecfp02.sprint.com) on: Mon Oct 25 10:26:16 EDT 1999
  
  Siva,
  
  ungaLukku thimir dhaanEy? ivvalavu 'clear' aa oru post ezhudhittu, appuram kadaisila 'vilanggugindatha' endru kEttaal enna arththam?
  
  I like your strategy. unga post a padichchuttu, thalai kaal puriyaama, andha DD thannOda mandaiya pichchundu, indha DF a vittEy OdodaNum. sariyaa?
  
  
• From: siva (@ klj-230-132.tm.net.my) on: Mon Oct 25 12:29:09 EDT 1999
  
  Siva Fan,
  
  Ellam sarithan, anal enakku thmirnu sollirukka vendam...??? irunthalum nandri...siva fan avargale..
  
  
• From: siva (@ klj-228-154.tm.net.my) on: Mon Oct 25 12:37:23 EDT 1999
  
  Siva Fan,
  
  Yen 'vilanggugindrtha'nu pottena silasamayam DDkum & DDFangalukkum ithu puriyathu...Konjum Tube ligth...!!!!
  
  Athu terinjalum teriyatha marithan avargal iruppangga... Ethu unmai Andavanukke veliccam...
  
  
• From: DD_Fan (@ bellatrix.anonymizer.com) on: Mon Oct 25 13:44:30 EDT 1999
  
  Siva,please read my post again and then you will realize who is a tube light
  Here are 7 points for why TTD Sir is the best.DD will give the remaining 3 points.
  1.His music is of "International" standards
  2.Widely accepted music-"Buffalo soldier" in the US,"Akila Akila" in TN
  3.TFM's answer to all current day north Indian MDs esp.Anu Malik
  4.Popularized "Ghana" songs and gave us the opportunity to listen to his great voice.
  5.Sabesh and Murali.now these guys are helping ARR to survive as a MD.If not for these guys most of ARR's films will not have BGMs.These guys are helping TTD sir day and night and still they have time and heart to lend a helping hand to another MD.This proves TTD sir's great heart and his superiority over ARR.
  6."Cheap and best" music.he is producer's MD
  7.Still surviving as the most popular MD
  
  
• From: DD_Fan2 (@ proxy2o.dpn.deere.com) on: Mon Oct 25 15:31:07 EDT 1999
  
  DD_Fan Sir,
  International Standards, Symphony, 'Buffalo Soldiers' appadiyellaam solli sathamaa pesaadhinga... idhellaam namma circle a mattum pesa koodiyadhu.. if everyone hears this, (because of jealousy) seekaram namma thalaivara uzhzha thooki pottiruvaanga.
  
  
• From: siva (@ klj-229-141.tm.net.my) on: Tue Oct 26 13:04:00 EDT 1999
  
  DDfans
  regarding your point
  1. international level not proved yet.
  2. Deva sir just copy tune from bob marley song (Akila)
  4. Gana!! IR also Famous for gramiya mettu & ghana, Engga Ooru Pattukkaran aiya ellathilum… Deva sir copy the tune of this song.
  5. Deva sir cann’t work without his brothers help… wonder how he can manage aal song…IR work alone in 80’s to compose for 52 film in one year.
  6. Cheap & Chiplak MD.
  7. Most popular in Quantity not in Quality.
  
  Could anybody reply for 3rd Point....!!!
  
  How is it
  
  
• From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Tue Oct 26 14:19:36 EDT 1999
  
  Devarajan = Deva + raj + an ? :-)
  
  
• From: satheesh (@ sandalwood.cisco.com) on: Thu Oct 28 05:29:07 EDT 1999
  
  
  DD_fan,
  
  nee TTD-a kindal panriya illa praise panriya? :-)
  
  
• From: ANTI FAN OF IR. (@ 203.116.186.39) on: Sat Oct 30 00:02:08 EDT 1999
  
  IR may have been good in his old days.But now i feel that his music is a load of rubbish.Did anyone listen to his latest movie TIME? I feel that all the songs in the picture are horrible.please don't waste your money buying those cd and cassettes.
  
  
• From: gnanam (@ 98aef677.ipt.aol.com) on: Sat Oct 30 10:53:54 EDT 1999
  
  THAMIZH ANBARKALAY! THAYAVU SEIDHU ILAYARAJAVAI MARTAVARHALODU OPPITTU ILAYARAJAVAI IZHIVU PADUTHUVATHAI VITTU VIDUNGAL
  
  ANBUDAN,
  ELIYA RASIGAN.
  
  
• From: thenisai thendral (@ nr-beta.anonymizer.com) on: Sun Oct 31 02:33:56 EST 1999
  
  Friends!I went through some of the previous pages and many of you seem to be IR fans or ARR fans.Some of you have said that only because of IR many people are surviving in the film industry.I can only laugh.One of them has said that only because of IR directors Barathiraja,Balachandar,Maniratnam have survived.Why stop there?what about MGR?what about Vajpayee?only because of IR MGR became chief minister.Vajpayee became prime minister.I am still laughing.LOL.ROTFL.
  
  But although such comedy postings are in this forum there is one sad part also.people here seem to underestimate Deva a lot.he is a very very talented musician.everyone is human and he has some flaws.what about IR?what about ARR?they have their own shortcomings.
  
  Another complaint about Deva is plagiarism.Friends,there is a big difference between inspiration and plagiarism.
  
  I have a good knowledge in carnatic music and I can talk musically also.If you guys want I can give a lot of examples to prove the brilliance that Deva is.But now I dont have time and so I will write more later.
  
  
• From: bb (@ ts001d41.cha-il.concentric.net) on: Sun Oct 31 05:25:35 EST 1999
  
  thenisai thendral, looking forward to ur comments on deva.. may be on deva's fascination and use of sindhu bhairavi.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 202.54.71.145) on: Mon Nov 1 00:50:22 EST 1999
  
  bb:
  It's safer to be precise, like telling `sindhu bhairavi ragam':-) One never knows whether this guy has lifted a no. of tunes from the film SB!:-))
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ mail.startec.net) on: Mon Nov 1 10:13:04 EST 1999
  
  eden :-))))
  
  
• From: bb (@ franck.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Mon Nov 1 10:15:32 EST 1999
  
  eden:-)) i meant the raagam only:)
  
  
• From: Sabesan (@ ws-209-233-228-150.webvangroup.com) on: Mon Nov 1 19:32:01 EST 1999
  
  hello Srinath.... enna nowadays becoming a 'silent observer'aaaaa....
  
  
• From: R A J (@ ukhost.wilco-int.com) on: Fri Nov 12 07:12:07 EST 1999
  
  hello everybody!!
  I have no regular access to net.
  Maybe I can see once in a month or so.
  And in any case, even in jest, I cannot claim to be a Deva Fan!
  
  (very seriously;-)))
  R A J
  
  (Uncle,(rinath, ms and others, please mail me if you have anything to say because the next time I see this might be a month down the line!)
  Sorry for digression!!
  
  
• From: Sabesan (@ ws-209-233-228-42.webvangroup.com) on: Fri Nov 12 16:49:54 EST 1999
  
  we miss u Raj.... u, ur English, ur stroooonggggg support to IR songs... we miss all...
  
  
• From: Shrikanth_g (@ gatekeeper.aspect.com) on: Fri Nov 12 19:09:28 EST 1999
  
  DD_Fan,
  
  "TFM's answer to all current day north Indian MDs esp.Anu Malik"
  It sounds more like a complain than a compliment. TTD is himself a question in TFM, So he cannot be a answer to be a Question,in the same category, in Hindi film Industry. More appropriate would be that TTD has been Inspired by Anu "Xerox" malik.
  I am not tring to correct you.But you realize that humans are not perfect.
  
  Thanks
  
  
• From: utdf (@ klg-58-226.tm.net.my) on: Mon Dec 13 12:51:43 EST 1999
  
  gfzxkm
  
  

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