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IR's new albums!

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

Check the IR reviews page

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• From: Jawahar (@ 212.138.47.11) on: Sat Jan 20 05:34:47 EST 2001
  
  Friends,
  
  "FRIENDS' is really a super movie with excellent Camera Work and Fantastic songs/BGM from IR. Really an enjoyable movie in this new year begining. I wish this year be an IR year as 2000. Hey Ram, Bharathy, Kannukkul Nilavu, Karisal Kaatu Poovae, Kakkai Siraginilae, Friends - all are excellent in quality as well as in cassete sales.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat Jan 20 09:14:00 EST 2001
  
  cram :
  I saw that in the 2nd page...but he has completely avoided spking about IR in the first page in his references to the 70s and 80s. That is gross injustice.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.164.189) on: Sat Jan 20 09:16:11 EST 2001
  
  hei dignity;
  
  it is surprising to see two totally conflicting opinions about Friends. Friends, as per me and as per most of others here is a wonderful album. People who say it be a crap or whatever, somehow don't like IR for some reason. 50:50, kumudam rating is not bad. They have also mentioned "Thendral Varum" Song is wonderful. Chennai online says "Poongatre Song" is excellent. As per Raga website the "Rukku Rukku' Song stands top. Many fans here like "Manjal Poosum' song. Collectively if you see, every song has attracted different sets of people. That is something great which we have not seen in many other movies. Kumudam is the odd one out in making that statement. Rest every other magazine says (chennai online, tamil cinema, indiainfo..etc) that friends songs are good. Majority wins. You guys by arguing friends songs are not good, that too with us, are not going to win a single heart..So take rest...
  
  
  "We pray Almighty to save Dir. Siddiq &co for a better luck next time, as he has paid already for IR obsession"
  
  Poor guy. Siddiq after seeing the IR's music in Friends has publicly announced that he is going to use IR for all his next movies. Take a big breathe....
  
  
  
• From: Venki (@ 12.72.88.73) on: Sat Jan 20 11:06:24 EST 2001
  
  Nalla soninga Fliflo.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.161.122) on: Sat Jan 20 23:45:42 EST 2001
  
  Box office hits (on 21st Jan 2001) : Dheena, Friends, Vaanchinathan
  Audio Hits (on 21st jan 2001) : Friends, vanchinathan, Dheena.
  
  Read this
  
  http://www.sysindia.com/tamil/cine/box/jan212k1.htm
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jan 21 02:41:10 EST 2001
  
  Fliflo
  
  The majority is always never right...say "by popular taste"...if songs by Deva, SA Rajkumar can become hits...it only means that majority of the people are not into sophisticated techno music yet and still like old sounding sounds and songs....
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jan 21 02:44:08 EST 2001
  
  So this means that if IR can give some better fare...it is naturally liked by the majority but it doesn't mean they are excellent...the "Rukku Rukku" song has got poor lyrics..it is more malayalam sounding...
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jan 21 02:46:06 EST 2001
  
  TV and MP are melodious...better than what Deva or SA Rajkumar can give but still very in the early-90 bracket of his style...nothing remarkable.
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 210.18.20.74) on: Sun Jan 21 03:50:02 EST 2001
  
  cosmician,
  i read that crap article a long time back-i thought it was something not worth writing about-why work yourself into a state over others'"expert " views-it is a well known fact that when these northies write about "indian"music they mean hindi music-for them that is synonymous with the entire range of film music.ignore that link-it is not worth the wear and tear on your keyboard trying to act wounded and hurt.the world does not go dark if the cat closes its eyes.
  another thing i have always wondered -this is actually a digression-will AR rehman be as popular if his nam had been something like,say ,ramanathan or rajkumar or deva?even maragadhamani changed his name to kreem (!) or something when he did music for a few hindi films.
  again,ignore the tunnel vision of whoever wrote that silly article.
  
  
• From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189) on: Sun Jan 21 03:51:15 EST 2001
  
  Cosmician,
  
  Forgive me. Song become hit for its tune, not necessarily for lyrics. If your logic of 'majority of people liking does not mean excellent song' holds good, then ARR did not give good songs so for. Will you agree? I would also say majority of the people are fed up with the techno music (or atleast fed up with recycles!)
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.164.50) on: Sun Jan 21 10:03:04 EST 2001
  
  Ennappa "Friends" Hitnnu Otthukka Maatengale. Rajas rule....Ayyio Patikichu...
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jan 21 11:32:56 EST 2001
  
  Yaaro...thanks :-)
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jan 21 11:38:10 EST 2001
  
  STS
  
  AR Rehman is popular right now...the majority look upto the trendsetters...AR has set the trend because of his innovations ..IR is not setting trends...that is my bone of contention...
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jan 21 11:47:19 EST 2001
  
  Remember the songs in "JOhnny"...at that time they broke new ground...songs of Friends still remain in those pattern..
  
  
• From: Venki (@ 12.72.88.60) on: Sun Jan 21 12:11:46 EST 2001
  
  Everybody
  The stuff on Sysindia is not an article. It is a survey. It is what the fact is. I am happy, IR fants are happy that his album is in the top selling list. It is the fact that IR trend is continuing to rule.
  
  
  Venki
  
  
• From: vanavil (@ 210.212.251.59) on: Sun Jan 21 12:16:55 EST 2001
  
  Hey a real surprise. IR walks away with the screen videocon award for best background score for heyram(hindhi). Surprise is the fact that the fun loving guys in the north who always admire copy cats has first time rewarded an orginal genius. Well done genius.
  
  
• From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189) on: Sun Jan 21 13:19:07 EST 2001
  
  Cosmician, You seem to apply different rules for different MDs. To me Thenaali follows the same pattern as Roja (Excessive sounds over voice). Do you see any other trend in ARR's music friend?
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.165.124) on: Sun Jan 21 13:33:45 EST 2001
  
  cosmician
  
  Whom you are going to convince; Your anti-IR feeling will only spoil your peace of mind..
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.168.31) on: Sun Jan 21 15:08:24 EST 2001
  
  Vanavil:
  
  Here is the total list of people who won screen-videocon awards. See who's there for best BGM
  
  http://in.news.yahoo.com/010121/48/hq44.html
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.168.31) on: Sun Jan 21 15:13:05 EST 2001
  
  Here is the copy:
  HINDI FILM AWARDS (Screen Videocon Award 2001)
  Best Film: Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai
  Best Director: Rakesh Roshan (Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai)
  Best Actor: Hrithik Roshan (Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai)
  Best Actress: Tabu (Astitva)
  Best Actor in a Supporting Role: Sanjay Dutt (Mission Kashmir)
  Best Actress in a Supporting Role: Sonali Bendre (Hamara Dil Aapke Paas Hai)
  Best Performance in a Comic Role: Paresh Rawal (Hera Pheri)
  Best Performance in a Negative Role: Rajpal Yadav (Jungle)
  Best Music Director: Rajesh Roshan (Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai)
  Best Background Music: Illayaraja (Hey Ram)
  Best Male Playback Singer: Lucky Ali (Ek pal ka jeena: Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai)
  Best Female Playback Singer: Alka Yagnik (Panchi nadiya: Refugee)
  Best Lyrics: Anand Bakshi (Humko hamise churalo: Mohabbatein)
  Best Story: Mahesh Manjrekar (Astitva)
  Best Screenplay: Neeraj Vora (Hera Pheri)
  Best Dialogue: Neeraj Vora (Hera Pheri)
  Best Editing: Sanjay Verma (Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai)
  Best Sound Recording: Mike Dawson, Jitendra Chaudhary, Shantanu Hudlikar and Manoj Sikka (Mission Kashmir)
  Best Cinematography: Binod Pradhan (Mission Kashmir)
  Best Art Direction: Nitin Desai (Josh)
  Best Choreography: Farah Khan (Ek pal ka jeena: Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai)
  Best Action Director: Allan Amin (Mission Kashmir)
  Most Promising Male Newcomer: Hrithik Roshan (Kaho Naa... Pyaar Hai)
  Most Promising Female Newcomer: Shilpa Navalkar (Kairee)
  Special Jury Award: Mahesh Manjrekar (Astitva and Nidaan)
  Best Publicity Design: Rahul and Himanshu Nanda
  Lifetime Achievement Award: Pran
  Noorjehan Award for Music: Lata Mangeshkar
  Screen Award for Landmark Year, 2000: The Roshan family
  Award for 50 Years of contribution to Hindi Cinema: B R Chopra
  Award for 50 Years of contribution to Hindi Cinema: Dev Anand
  
  
• From: PRASAD (@ 24.189.124.91) on: Sun Jan 21 19:33:12 EST 2001
  
  Dear cosmician,
  
  I agree that ARR has set trends in sound engineering and selection of voices.
  
  But the point to note is, he do not keep setting trends. He continues with the trend which he set in Roja.
  
  Now coming to IR, you are saying that IR has not set any trend! I differ in that. When he took over the tamil field, he set the trend of folk songs in movies. It was welcome. Then he set the trend of hot songs with Janaki and that was also appreciated. He made fusion with all kinds of music. He set the trend that film MDs can also satisfy classical experts. It is from his time only that MDs got recognition of having photos in posters. It is from his time that movies start coming solly depending MDs(Otherwise who will see Ramarajan, Rajkiran movies). The list can go on and on.
  
  What he is not doing is, he is not setting any new trend now. Also he is adamant with his ideology.(Look at the difference between IR and ARR. IR had problem with Vairamuthu and he maintains it even in the present situation. He refused Bharathi Raajas project because of this. But whereas ARR is ready to accept him back because his two movies Rhythm and Thenali did not do well than his earlier movies. Just for comparison no offense. I don't say which is right).
  
  For setting trend, he should get the right platform. He had tussle with all good directors Balachander, Maniratnam, etc and hence was not getting good platform for experimentation and setting trends. Consider the fact that until his last movies with these directors, he was doing good and tried to innovate. Now he is getting good people like pentamedia, director Siddiq etc. We have to see how he is fairing in those movies. Kamalhaasan is one who knows what IR is capable of doing, but then he himself is in difficult situation after Hey Ram!
  
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Jan 21 22:45:13 EST 2001
  
  Good points, Prasad...Thanks..:-)
  
  I meant that IR is not setting trends now...I still hope he will start doing something futuristic adding Ambient-techno sounds to his "Tamil Folk+Carnatic+Western Classical" fusion. YSR is doing that..."Dheena" songs - "Nee Illai Endral" and "Sollamal thatti.." were really good...
  
  

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