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New Releases by ARR??

Topic started by Srikanth (@ passport.proxy.lucent.com) on Mon Sep 15 10:23:15 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

Any new album by A. R. Rahman generates lot of buzz. Share some of it here. Review, discuss or comment on ARR's new albums.

Check the ARR reviews page

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• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Tue May 2 19:54:09 EDT 2000
  
  srikanth,
  i have already talked with bb about the page. i'll give him a few originals that i have.
  is it possible for u to give the tamil duplicates in real format if u have them? even otherwise i think we can have direct links to tamil songs on the net with appropriate acknowledgements.
  
  
• From: suresh (@ dedicated-149.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Wed May 3 00:57:35 EDT 2000
  
  wow, what a scorching discussion..
  
  srikanth,
  isainagal.com is a good idea. (btw, how about thiruda-thiruda.com?)i understand the angst that you and other musicians/ music-lovers will feel when they realise that they've been ripped off even by those who they thought were beyond such blatant plagiarism..
  
  but my point is, where do you draw the dividing line? in a issue full of intangibles such as this, where do we distnguish between straight lifts, collage-of-flicked bits, inspirations, and influenced (by director, actor, producer) tunes? what weightage of guilt will we apportion to each of these? can we bring in any scientific rationale that analyse such factors and produce a list that goes something like - (just wild imagination, NOM)
  death sentence, life sentence, 10 years RI, warning-and-let-off.. and so on??
  
  and, do we need to move these to the 'copied songs' thread?
  
  
• From: KK (@ 192.135.245.144) on: Wed May 3 01:40:29 EDT 2000
  
  Joke of the century!!!!
  VM has named Deva as a 'Isai Perarasu'.
  People like VM has to be kicked out, if
  TFM has to be promoted.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Wed May 3 10:16:14 EDT 2000
  
  thiruda-thiruda, will also mean
  thirudathu-iruda
  
  ;)
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com) on: Wed May 3 10:30:09 EDT 2000
  
  Suggested Plan of Action:
  
  1. BB creates a page called Asalum Nagalum
  
  2. We form a fairly objective and more important a knowledgeable group of experts to which a case of copuy is prsented with evidence. Sridhar
  Seetharaman, Srikanth, Rjay, Sashi,...and I can be part of this 'vimarisana kuzhu'. The song will be determined a copy if 3 members of the group conclude so.
  3. The tekkies (Vijay, BB, MS, Srikanth,....) get together and post excerts from the original and the duplicate once a copy is established. I am saying excerpts
  because (especially for western originals) we do not want to deal with copyright issues. I think loading relevant parts of a song for discussion within the
  purpose of the page will not create a legal issue.
  
  4. We can invite the attention of the original and duplicate recording company to visit the site or the relevant segment. That way we have taken a step towards
  informing the right people and yet, do not come across as a group which wants a downfall of somebody.
  
  Ground Rules (to consider):
  1. No MD is above the law
  2. For starters we will present/discuss only cases where the duplicate is TFM and the original is non-Indian. Presenting copies of TFM <-->HFM is fun, but
  useless in terms of any consequence. Presenting non-Indian --> HFM is outside the scope of this forum, but maybe considered for the Forum Hub.
  
  
• From: Swami (@ proxy2.ericy.com) on: Wed May 3 11:14:01 EDT 2000
  
  Srinath endra oru nabarai maranthue vittargal :-(
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Wed May 3 11:45:21 EDT 2000
  
  suresh/rajaG,
  i think inspirations/copies of all kinds have to be included. full-length copies are very minimal and most of teh copies have been interludes, prelude music and some notes here and there. so the length of the song (that is simliiar to the original) does'nt matter in my opinion. its the extent of the similiarity. even if the first 2 lines alone are copied, if they are so much similiar to the original they would find a place in the page.
  
  again, rajaG/srikanth your opinion is sought.
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ kcecfp01.sprint.com) on: Wed May 3 11:45:44 EDT 2000
  
  Srinath 'objective' + 'knowledgeable' requirement la goal vaangittaan.Just kidding:-)
  
  Srinath: If you are reading this, indha committee kku coffee, norukkutheeni, soft drinks supply yErpaadu paNra important vElai unakku:-)
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ daecfp02.sprint.com) on: Wed May 3 11:58:40 EDT 2000
  
  Vijay: agreed!!
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ daecfp02.sprint.com) on: Wed May 3 12:06:57 EDT 2000
  
  Swami: naa adhanaalathaan Sashi Oda perukkum ennOda pErukkum naduvula ..... pOttirundhEn. Naveen, Srinath, Sriram Lakshman, Murali Shankar, Isairasigai, Vijay are all very qualified to discuss/decide on this issue.
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Wed May 3 12:16:05 EDT 2000
  
  GSab, I would suggest to use a common name instead of individuals, we should not list everyones name, I am saying this to avoid some trouble when we go back to India. (I intend to go back...who knows the future)
  
  Especially musicians like us wil be troubled later, the politics they play there is so bad, we are going to clean a gutter so we should be careful we are not counter attacked by germs and what not that comes out of the gutter.
  
  Please dont brand me that I am afraid (if you see i am the one who have trashed deva more:) , it is to safe guard us in the long run.
  
  Any suggestions,
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ daecfp02.sprint.com) on: Wed May 3 12:29:09 EDT 2000
  
  Srik: Good Point! We will just present it to a "TFMForum committee". Apart from some admin. folks, nobody needs to know who is actually a member, who all actually certified it a copy etc. In fact the consensus can be done over phone to preserve the absence of a paper/electronic trail.
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Wed May 3 12:41:38 EDT 2000
  
  Rajag, I doubt whether we can use tfmforum committee, will tfmpage.com admin permit this.
  This name is registerd by them,
  
  BB, can you clarify this...
  
  I am ready...I have already spoken to few free lance journalist who are interested in writing about it.......they are experienced people, they have already published articls in the hindu, outlook, rediff, the week etc,they have also interviewed raja and other big musicians.
  The will be visiting here soon, i have already sent them the links.
  
  Let us set our goal, Jan 2001 there should not be one single flicked song in tamil film music.
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ 205.252.37.3) on: Wed May 3 12:48:23 EDT 2000
  
  Srikanth:
  Aren't you glad to finally be part of a core group ;-))))
  
  Swami:
  Thanks for thinking of me, man ! I will definitely point out any copy if and when I come across it ! But I think my talents are better utilized for lambasting these copy-cats ;-)))
  
  rajaG:
  There used to be a certain Filter Coffee Club in the DF which is currently defunct :-) Perhaps you'd care to revive it !!! You can have all the strong filter coffee that you want ! For further details please contact Vijay, Raj et al :-))) For pakkodas/murukku/cheedai etc., please contact MS !
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Wed May 3 13:16:50 EDT 2000
  
  Srinath:
  
  This is slowly degenerating into comical decantations. Atleast for once, try being serious in life. How did you ever get the idea that I'll take up this job of murukku and cheedais ?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  kaaraaboondhi is a better and easier option :-)
  
  
• From: Srinath (@ 205.252.37.3) on: Wed May 3 13:19:54 EDT 2000
  
  MS:
  :-) You got me there for a moment :-)))
  
  
• From: maapillai (@ dyn2-116.kla-tencor.com) on: Wed May 3 13:40:54 EDT 2000
  
  Srinath,Srikanth,MS and friends,
  Can I also be part of this group.I know a little about what's going on here but I don't know the whole story.Where did it start from and is it achievable?Please let me know more details about this task.
  
  maapillai
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Wed May 3 13:45:07 EDT 2000
  
  maappillai:
  
  Everyone can contribute.
  
  
• From: sitaram (@ 209.166.17.57) on: Wed May 3 14:31:25 EDT 2000
  
  Can you guys discuss about A.R.Rehman's new music?I came looking for info on new A.R.Rehman new releases, but didnt find anything here. if you want to discuss copy,tea, murruku,pakkoda etc etc why dont you guys do it somewhere else?
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ mailserver01.sb.com) on: Wed May 3 15:19:02 EDT 2000
  
  rajaG:
  
  I am a skeptic....I'll tell you what will Happen..There are in your vimarsana Kuzhu people who previously have expressed strong biases pro and against different MDs. You are going to give an opportunity thru' this forum to legitimize their biases...
  
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ daecfp01.sprint.com) on: Wed May 3 15:27:37 EDT 2000
  
  Krishna: I will respond to you in the Copy....thread!
  
  
• From: bb (@ franck.crhc.uiuc.edu) on: Wed May 3 15:37:55 EDT 2000
  
  guys, please get back to the topic of the thread. i will work on the suggestions given. the rest can be discussed here: https://newtfmpage.com/forum/17550.07.23.36.html
  
  (hmmmm, it takes an ARR's copy to wake up people:-) deva left, right and center adichchu oNNum aagalai:) ).
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Wed May 3 16:34:44 EDT 2000
  
  bb,
  familiarity breeds contempt ..and neglect;))- should explain what happened with deva
  
  
• From: kiru (@ surf0004.sybase.com) on: Wed May 3 21:29:16 EDT 2000
  
  Just wanted to post this link http://members.tripod.com/~kbkaran/bakhta.ram
  This is a Khaled song and I think this is the inspiration for 'thangath thaAmarai magalE'.
  I will let the experts decide.
  
  
• From: Bramathalam (@ 208.0.121.75) on: Fri May 5 13:46:41 EDT 2000
  
  K.J. Yesudas has given an latest album on Oothukadu Collection. Probably he would have given a copy to ARR. The whole Oothukadu lifting started from then. Alaipayuthey song and Pal Vadiyum mugam (kanna moochi yenada). I anticipate some more inspiration (copying) in forth coming releases from that album.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Fri May 5 17:02:57 EDT 2000
  
  Bramathalam,
  
  Great job identifying similarity of Pal vadiyum
  mugam! I had listened to Kannamoochi and it
  reminded me another song: "Kuzhaloothi
  manamellam koLLai konda pinnum kuraiyaethum
  enakkedhadi". The pallavi seems even closer
  than "Pal vadiyum". Have you heard that song,
  is it also by Oothukadu?
  
  rjay
  
  

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