The movie review of kilakkum Merkum says that IR lifted ARR's Vande maatharam music in the movie's BGM. Can anyone who have seen the movie Confirm this.?? Thanks
Topic started by MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com) on Tue Feb 10 14:12:54 EST 1998.
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- From: MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com)
on: Fri Mar 13 19:34:49 EST 1998
Balaji,
I completely AGREE with Madhan. Madhan pointed out Nayagan so as to emphasize on Kumudam's knowledge about BGM music. As he rightly said, that peice of song is the Killer in the film. It not only gives a punch , but adds very much to the visuals in bringing out the best of the visuals in portraying every turmoil the character undergoes in his life. If they say that is the jhavvu music, that shows their .???.
More than anything, I usually observe IR's BGM . If u have seen Raajapaarvai and Salangai Oli , it's the ultimate in BGM.
Neo MD's should watch these movies to learn how to compose BGM.!!!
Especially in Salangai Oli , there are more than 5 different types of BGM, that IR has used throughout the movie to suit the changing scenario in the life of Kamal , Jayapradha . I have seen the movie several times ( I have the BGM in a tape -if u want i can send a copy to you.)These are 1. whenevr Kamal's desires (of giving a public dance performance ) goes unfulfilled 2. the affection Jayapradha shows towards Kamal 3. The budding love between them 4. Kamal's mother's hopes for his son 4. Jayapradha's situation as it realtes to her broken marriage.
He has handled differenent peices for each of these situations in the movie, and each one is a gem. Now if someone says that it's a jhavvu then imagine how harsh a comment it is. See Salangai Oli once and see for urself. U'll be hooked for ever to his BGM.
Is Kumudam capable enough to comment on IR's BGM - atleast it needs more involvement to comment on IR"s BGM. Simply passing a casual remark is very easy. Even i can say , IR is Good or Bad or he copied.
As i said earlier in this thread , If Kumudam is so sure about the credibility of it's report , then it should have said, YES , IR copied. But they did not do it. That shows their standing.!!
Sorry to say this., But like someone said before,
Kai, Kal matrum ithara samaacharangalai pottu ithu entha nadigai endru sollungal - Ithu thaan kumuthathin speciality . SO to expect anything more than that is wrong on our part .
So please don't try to justify Kumudam's stand Please. Even they did not do it.
Thanks
- From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com)
on: Sat Mar 14 01:34:29 EST 1998
YB:
Pathirikkai sudhandhiram endra peyaril,
yEthavadhu ezhuthi, podhu makkalai mislead
panna koodadhu enbadhu thAn DF makkaludaya
karuthu.
appadiyE ezhuthinAlum...
enkitte mOdhadhE nAn rAjAthi rAjanada..
mannAru
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust205.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Sun Mar 15 23:44:09 EST 1998
Kumudham has a dig once again at Maestro Ilayaraja (and his sons this time). 'Lights On' - http://www.kumudam.com.
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Mar 16 00:26:31 EST 1998
I agree. That van(dha)dhE and vandhE maatharam
they have put above and below that news on
Ilayaraja is uncalled for! But I guess, you
can't do anything about such digs. Even if you
respond, you know how they will use it.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Mar 16 01:44:40 EST 1998
gOpal & SK - Am I missing something here?
Another question I have is, must IR use KR as a singer?
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Mon Mar 16 02:16:15 EST 1998
NOV:
IR and his sons' paadalai patriya news item-ukku
mEl vandhadhE endrum, adhan keezhE
vandhE maatharam endrum pOttadhu kiNdal
illaamal vERu enna? Kumudham is making fun of the
Kizhakkum Merkum type of stuff!
I haven't heard KR singing; so I cannot comment.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Mon Mar 16 03:04:02 EST 1998
Sathya Keerthi - Naai sooriyanei paarththu kuzhaikkattum. Paravaa illei - naaiyukku aayul kammi. Athu poana piragum, sooriyanin oli pragaasamaaga olikkum. :-))
I haven't heard KR singing; so I cannot comment.
Koduththu cvaiththavar aiya neengal. :-))
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust244.tnt1.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Mon Mar 16 12:16:31 EST 1998
NOV:
"Naai sooriyanei paarththu kuzhaikkattum. Paravaa illei - naaiyukku aayul kammi. Athu poana piragum,
sooriyanin oli pragaasamaaga olikkum."
The best i have read in TFMP in recent times.
adhu sari, kuzhai, oli, olikkum, enna adhu??
Weekend samAchAramA?? romba thazhAdaramAzhiri thezhiyudhu??:))
SKji:
indha aLavirku IRai kumudham thAkkavEndumendrAl, IR yEdho pirachchinai panni irukkalAm (with kumudham as regards an interview??)
- From: MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com)
on: Mon Mar 16 13:14:29 EST 1998
Gopal.,
Yes, I saw Kumudam's Light's On section. It's preposterous. They did not confirm their first news. and now they are using it to remark IR.
Anyway, I watched Kilakkum Merkum Movie yesterday. I had VM CD by the side and repeatedly listened to both. The only common thing I found was both had drum beats. That's all. I am planning to record the short BGM peice which is alleged to be lifted from VM. I'll also put VM opening beat in teh tape.
Gopal/MPR , can u guys put audio files on u'r web site so that people can listen for themselves. I can send u the tapes.
Man, I hate Kumudam. Nasty magazine.!
- From: MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com)
on: Mon Mar 16 13:16:23 EST 1998
BTW Balaji , Enna sathame illae.?? Still searching for facts to defend kumudam or .??
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust73.tnt2.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Mon Mar 16 20:35:56 EST 1998
http://www.kumudam.com/
- From: gOpAl (@ 1cust73.tnt2.sarasota.fl.gt.uu.net)
on: Mon Mar 16 20:38:31 EST 1998
Sorry !
http://www.kumudam.com/lightson.htm
- From: Yoga Balaji (@ ww-tn06.proxy.aol.com)
on: Mon Mar 16 23:30:45 EST 1998
Hi Madhan & MSK
Ungal vaadhangalai paarthen. Miga arumai. Ilayarajavai nan thaakkiyadhaaga neengal ninaithaal adharkaaga nan varundhugiren, migavum varundhugiren. Ennudaya vaadhathil nan onrai mattum ungalukku miga kurippaaga sutti kaatti irundhen. ILAYARAJA APPADI SEIDHAAR or ILLAI ENRU NAN KOORAVE ILLAI, but ORU PATHIRIGAYAI GLOBAL MEDIA (INTERNET) MOOLAM PAZHIPPADHU enbadhu miga kadumayaana vishayam. Adhai ippodhum nan marukka villai.
Madhan, nan KOLANGAL padathai paarkka villai. Adhanaal ennal adharku badhil alikka mudiya villai. NAYAGAN padathil adikkadi andha paadalai pottadhu kadhaikku othu varuvadhu unmai dhan. Othu kolgiren. Andha paadal oru murai oliparappi irundhaalum adhu hit aagi irukkum enbadhil sandhegam illai enbadhayam nan solli irukkiren. Adhe samayathil oru pathirigayin paarvayil andha paadalai adikkadi oliparappi irukka thevai illai enru kumudham solliyadhil thavaraillai enrum kurippitullen. Paadalgal ethanai murai oliparappaagiradhu enbadhu iyakkunar sammandha patta vishayam enbadhaal adhu IR’kku edhiraaga eduthukolvadhil endha prayojanamum illaye….
Melum Madhan, kumudham IR’kku edhiraaga mattume vimarsanam seivadhaaga thaangal solli iruppadhai ennaal othukollave mudiyaadhu. IR’I paaraatti idhe kumudham ezhudhiyadhai ungalukku eduthu thara mudindhaal nan muyarchikkiren.
Anbu MSK avargale, mele ulla sila vilakkangal ungal vaadhangalukkum porundhum ena nambugiren. Salangai Oli patri enakku vilakkam koori iruppadharku mikka nanri. Salangai Oli cassette illamal nan engum payanam seivadhillai enbadhai ungalukku sollikolvadhan moolam, IR’in isyai enganam nan rasikkiren enbadhu ungalukku puriyalaam. Also, Kumudam commercialize aanadhai nan marukka villai enbadhayum senra vaadhadhil solli irukkiren. Adhu sariyaa thavaraa enru yosikkum munnare perumbaanamai makkal etrukondu vittanar. Perumbaanai makkal etrukondadharkaaga naam etru kolla avasiyam illai dhan. Aanaal vetrigaramaaga pathirigai nadatha adhu thevai dhan enbadhai othukollathaane vendum.
Madhan & MSK matrum anaivarukkum nan solla virumbiyadhu ennavendraal, tamil samudhayathil inraikku oru mukkiyamaana mediavaaga thigazhvadhu INTERNET. Andha internet moolam ippadi oru pugazh petra Pathirgiyai pazhithu koori iruppadhu migavum varutham thakka seyal. Adhai than nan kandithu koorinen. IR isayai nan kurai koori iruppadhaaga dhayavau seidhu thavaraaga eduthu kolla vendaam.
Mister Mannaaru ungalukkum indha badhilgal porundhum. Also, neengal nanraaga paadugireergal.
(Nan oru idathil illaamal, pala client site’galukku senru velai paappavan, adhanaal dhinamum DF’i paarthu update seyya mudiya villai. Justify seivadharkaaga thagaval thedi kondu irukkiren enru oru nanbar koori irundhaar. Avarukkaaga idhai solgiren)
- From: Shanth (@ 199.183.23.135)
on: Tue Mar 17 09:22:15 EST 1998
Balaji !!
I still think that you can defend kumudam !!
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