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TFM Composers - That Dared and Surprised TFM

Topic started by newtopicworthit? (@ 65.57.13.101) on Tue Jan 8 00:28:25 EST 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

ARR- Thiruda Thiruda (Raasathi, Chandraleka, Puthum Pudu Bhoomi), Minsara Kanavu (Oo la la, Strawberry Kanne)
HJ - Minnale
KR - Grahan in Hindi!
YSR - Dheena
IR - Annakkilli - (orchestration and folk tunes), Sindu Bhairavi, Ullasa Paravaihal, Ennakkul Oruvan, Moodu Pani etc.. Can we find out more about IR's pathbreaking numbers?
MSV - Many, eg.. Oru Raja Raani Idam

Worth talking about?

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• From: Karthi (@ 63.21.181.238) on: Thu Jan 10 00:49:09 EST 2002
  
  "hooof fingers paining" - Kupps I think you have listed most of the memorable hits of IR, piragu enna kai vali:))
  
  
• From: Prabhudas (@ 129.49.160.145) on: Thu Jan 10 00:49:32 EST 2002
  
  
  Hi
  thanks for bringing the discussions about the "uravenum pudiya raagam", "vaanengum " tunes, the tunes which were several years ahead of that particular time.
  Yes, Raajaathi raaja had mostly average numbers, but I somehow ( don't know really how) always thought "vaa vaa vanji malarae" was something new and very experimental, some one with better music knowledge could explain.
  
  " Singara velan" another "paavalar productions" again had couple of good compositions, although this was released more recently compared to the ones mentioned
  
  Prabhudas
  
  
• From: Karthi (@ 63.21.181.238) on: Thu Jan 10 00:53:32 EST 2002
  
  "Ithazhil Kadhai Ezhudhum Neramidhu" - indha song-la edhum pudhumai illaiyaa? I used to think this song was very melodious and kinda different (adhudhaan ennannu theriyalai!) for the times when it came out.
  
  
• From: Mr. Observer (@ 64.105.35.147) on: Thu Jan 10 02:00:31 EST 2002
  
  hihi:) aka aruL, IR of the 80s did not have that disadvantage ofcourse.
  True, 'kaNgaL iraNdum' has great violin interludes and that was in 'mannAthi mannan' (MSV-TKR) in '59. Gulebagavali ('57-'58) by MSV-TKR has 'Asayum en nEsamum' by Jamuna Rani that has a single violin counter melody, which was a novelty those days.
  'vadivElum mayilum thuNai' by G.Ramanathan in 'Ambigapathi' (TMS) must have been certainly the first of the seemingly 'moochchu vidA' types and sounded so different inspite of the heavy classical base. Obviously, no track recording and one is overcome with deep reverence for TMS and GR.
  The same movie had a duet by TMS-Bhanumathi ('vAdA malarE thamizh thEnE') in the sOga rAgam 'mugAri'. MSV-TKR followed this up 'kanavu kaNdEn nAn kanavu kaNdEn' in mugAri in Kannadasan produced movie 'sivagangai cheemai' ('59). If this is not trail blazing then what is ?
  
  
  
  
• From: Venkatesh (@ 212.72.11.66) on: Thu Jan 10 03:42:34 EST 2002
  
  Prabhudas... Meenamma Meenamma (good trumpet score) and the Singaravelan songs have good WCM base in them.
  I remember Raja saying that S.Velan songs have complicated orchestrations. Did it come around the symphony period?
  
  
• From: Mr. Observer (@ 64.105.35.147) on: Thu Jan 10 03:56:08 EST 2002
  
  'ithazh mottu virinthida' from 'bantha pAsam' sung by PBS & PS (MSV-TKR) had seconds and vocal counter melody for the first time in TFM. An innovation!!!
  
  
• From: Guess Who (@ 192.11.188.113) on: Thu Jan 10 07:38:42 EST 2002
  
  I think "Raasaathee" song from Thiruda Thiruda is the most innovative song of all times. The simple fact being that not even a single instrument was used in that song. Chorus & humming was put to maximum effect in that song. Great Work.
  
  
• From: peeps (@ 203.199.207.198) on: Thu Jan 10 08:11:25 EST 2002
  
  Karthi,
  I have read some where that "Idhazhil kadhai" is based on Lalitha.The swara progressions and the build up of that song is very unique is what i read.
  Prabhudas,
  Singaravelan had two nice songs in my opinion."Innum ennai" and "Dhoodhu selvarathadai".
  "Innum Ennai" had the same type of start as "Poongathavey thaazthiravai"..beautiful scream of violins..
  I feel that "Chandirarum Sooriyarum" from Avadharam is a innovative song in the sense it has violin as rythm throughout the song..Any other song has this format??
  
  
• From: Raju (@ 172.189.70.23) on: Thu Jan 10 10:21:10 EST 2002
  
  HJ dared to copy ARR and surprised us at how gullible Tamil audiences are ;-)
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.161) on: Fri Jan 11 23:40:37 EST 2002
  
  Eden, Kiru...
  
  Sorry for the late reply (these days am too lazy to substantiate through postings)
  
  >>>I think the idea of IR not sticking to the `popular pop' sounds and structure of 80's could be that he wanted to have his `own identity'! His song should be known as his own and not similar to, say, George Michael, Phil collins, Stevie Wonder or Madonna...In fact, he would never have wanted himself to sound similar to BoneyM or Abba<<<
  
  Maybe..but he was in the best position to incorporate or rather fuse new genres of music into his world of music...
  but like Kiru has implied Folk, Carnatic and Western Classical itself has given IR an infinite world to explore and he preferred that.
  
  
• From: Mr. Observer (@ 64.105.35.147) on: Sat Jan 12 05:27:09 EST 2002
  
  'thAmtha theemtha Adum uLLam pAdum kAviyam' in pagalil Or iravu is certainly a daring effort by IR, with 30 chorus singers and only 3 instruments. Perfectly placed vocal harmony in the charanams decorate the already strong melody.
  
  
• From: Muthu (@ 24.47.171.220) on: Sat Jan 12 08:48:25 EST 2002
  
  I thought the movie 'Soorasamharam' had some unique songs. They were nothing like IR's compositions before. They sounded completely different.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.168.236) on: Sat Jan 12 11:27:03 EST 2002
  
  You are right Muthu...specially "Aadum Neram" had very modern latin? guitar melodies...
  
  

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