Topic started by Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on Sat Jul 26 05:27:10 EDT 1997.
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- From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate6.ca.us.ibm.com)
on: Mon Jun 22 16:37:38 EDT 1998
Ramki... YengE aaLaiyE kaNNom??
Thank you about the MD of PM:):)!!
DhooL kiLappalam aanal 'thooL'-a N-inaichchu vittuda poranga :);):)..
- From: Rajesh (@ pdxss902.jf.intel.com)
on: Mon Jun 22 16:38:31 EDT 1998
Prakash,
This is the first time I am hearing that IR survives because of GA. I would say IR is not
commercially popular ever since 1993 or so. Anyway, I cant prove that GA did not compose songs
and you cant prove he did. However, the news is hard to believe. Please dont give the same old theory that I am not accepting bcos I am an IR worshipper and all such crap. I am curious to know
how exactly GA helps IR? If anyone knows actual facts please post. I cannot give a list of songs
IR composed as Paatukku mettu bcos I am not into
these statistics. Sorry about that. Perhaps someone else can give. I dont mind how the song is
composed so long as the tune is good. Thats my view only. Please post with the impression that you are not targetting IR worshippers. I am curious to know facts and not at all interested in
getting into some stupid fight as to whether IR or
any other MD is great or not.
- From: Srikanth (@ 151.minneapolis-06.mn.dial-access.att.net)
on: Mon Jun 22 17:06:48 EDT 1998
Hi Prakash..
Thanks for Reducing my Age...
I am really annoyed when some one calls me anna..
You have called me Chinna tambi..Thanks a lot..
Translatation:
Nandri thiru Ananan Prakash avargale.
Enai yaraAenm Anna endru AZaithal Nan Kobam agi viduven..Enani Thambi endru anbudan azaithadhuku Remba DankXu...pa...
Neega Raja sideaa, ArR Sideaa - ella outsideda...
Onga argument ondrum poriyale...
Junoon Tamizaakkam madri iruku..
Srikanth
- From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate2.ca.us.ibm.com)
on: Mon Jun 22 17:08:14 EDT 1998
Rajesh,
I can give the example with News..(a.k.a. Gossip/Vambu/Kisukisu)
K.Balajee approched Raja to do music for VazhvE maayam. Raja told him that GA would perform the music and in the title put my name.
Balajee didn't agree for that and pu GA name only. Source:- Kumudham. GA was MD for some of K.Balajee's films.
BTW Sorry Rajesh.. I didn't point you that IR Worshiper. In general I put that message to the IR Fans.
And also I didn't tell that 'XYZ' is greater than IR.
Yes I am targeting IR fans who blindly supporting him and not accepting other MDs.
BTW this is totally out of contact..
Are you Rajesh Sundaram from Kellys/Purasaivakkam?? I
- From: Rajesh (@ pdxss902.jf.intel.com)
on: Mon Jun 22 17:20:31 EDT 1998
I do agree that GA might have composed some songs
for IR. Infact there may be some others too who
did that. I am not arguing about that. There may
be plenty of reasons why IR would ask them to do it. Time may be a major factor. But to contend that IR did that bcos he could not come up with
a tune seems to be a wrong interpretation. Well, we do stories from all directors like how IR comes
up with tunes during their discussion. So, I would
put it this way - Once in a while IR does get songs composed by others but I would not say he
survives because of that. This is what I want to
convey. He would have disappeared long long ago if
he did depend on others for his work
I am not from Kellys/Purasawalkam. I am from Perambur.
- From: Srikanth (@ 232.minneapolis-06.mn.dial-access.att.net)
on: Mon Jun 22 17:33:05 EDT 1998
Hi Rajesh
By any chance did you study in MCCHS...
Srikanth
- From: Rajesh (@ pdxss902.jf.intel.com)
on: Mon Jun 22 18:09:29 EDT 1998
Srikanth,
I studied in St.Marys, Perambur and then in Anna
University. Guys sorry for the digression.
- From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate5.ca.us.ibm.com)
on: Mon Jun 22 18:11:59 EDT 1998
Srikanth,
I don't need translation.. I can understand English Too !!!:):):)... adhu edhukku ippo...
I am nither Raja fan Nor ARR fan. I am a fan of Good songs with good music... irrespective of the MDs. Now indha Joonun kuzhappam poiduchcha???
Rajesh...
Time factor other factor what ever it may be...
Raja could do somthing like Deva... 'Isaiyil Udhavi' - Gangai Amaran. When Raja wanted his son to become a MD, he put Karthik Raja's name in the film ponnu mani.
You maynot accept that Raja survived because of GA. But that is the truth. Another example for their 'lie'.
In one of the star nite programme/live music concert. SPB sung the song 'maNNil indha kadal..' from Keladi kannmani
After he sung the song and called GA, announced the crowd that it was written by GA and not Paavalar Varadharasanar. GA didn't accept that. Then SPB asked him to Promise on him that the song was wirtten by Paavalar. GA N-isa jaga vangified... and told the crowd that he only wrote the song. idhu kINdalaa aarambichchu serious-a mudichcha samacharam. idhukkum GA-IR kum enna samandham?-nu kekkalam. GA andha pattai ezhthinar-nu sollaradhukku padhila Paavalar ezhuthinar-nu sonna payangra mousu. adhilaiyum.. "aha haa ippdi oru pattai appvE ezhuthi irukkarE?" appdinu ellorum romba achcharya pattu ketpanga pattu hit aagaNumnu appdi senjirukkanga.
idhu mattum illai. N-ama Bhagyaraj, Pandiyaraj ivanga potta music-a ketta karaNama irundhavar IR-than. avar kitta poi enga padaththukku music podunganu kettka, avar time-a illai erkanavE potta music irukku adhai eduththukkunganu solla.. avanga koba pattukittu thangaLavE music poda aarambichanga. idhunala nammakku thollaiyo thollai. N-alla vELai appurm purichikkittu vEra MDkku maarittanga. illaina TFM kadhiya yosichchu parunga.. !!!
sari... sari.. Srikanth "ayyo marupadi innoru Junoon-a???" !!! appdinu alarathukuLLa mudichidarEn...
- From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate5.ca.us.ibm.com)
on: Mon Jun 22 18:15:36 EDT 1998
Sorry Guys.. once again...
Rajesh... are you Rajesh Sudaram?? Son of J.M.Sudaram. Because I am talking about Rajesh, who is also studied at Anna and did his MS in Phoenix. He is also working in Intel.
Since I don't know your E-mail ID I am using this forum.
Raveendran,Raj ellam thitta porranga.. Sorry others..
- From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.219)
on: Mon Jun 22 23:51:09 EDT 1998
prakash balakrishnan,
i hope that u don't say that gangai amaran had composed the symphony and illayaraja had just conducted it in london.your gossips do not have any basis.just because a particular news clip comes in kumudham or anandha vikatan it does not mean that the news is true.a guy who uses others to compose music and just puts his name in film titles can't survive for 20+ years.do u think TFM is a joke?
i agree with u that IR might be arrogant and might have headweight.he has been insulted by many in the past.my friends who had met him personally have told me that he had faced a lot of probs and his first film should have come long before annakili.
for IR's talent one can excuse his deserved arrogance.eccentricity is a trait of a genius.IR is a perfect example of that.
IR's breaking away from directors could have been due to the director's ego also.did u think about that? do u think KB and bharathiraaja have no egos at all? its a mistake on both sides,not on raaja alone.
- From: Sankaran (@ webgate0.mot.com)
on: Tue Jun 23 07:12:02 EDT 1998
Rajesh,
I also studied at St.Mary's Perambur(passed out in 1990).Pls. mail me with more info. about you.
PS. Sorry guys for the digression.tfmpage also helps make new contacts and renew old ones.
- From: Srinath (@ socks8d.raleigh.ibm.com)
on: Tue Jun 23 09:31:24 EDT 1998
Vijay:
I don't think Prakash's comments merit a response.
Prakash:
Only your 'comments' don't merit a response. Please do not interpret it as a personal attack :-)
Srinath
- From: nesan (@ 129.107.27.4)
on: Tue Jun 23 09:53:58 EDT 1998
Hello Pirakash Sir,
Your comments are considered to be the jokes of the century. I am glad at least you admit the fact
that IR has reached a stage within very short time( b4 Valvai mayam) where ALL BIG SO-CALLED DIRECTORS were ready for his name despite of music.
thanks,
Nesan
- From: Prakash Balakrishnan (@ gate2.ca.us.ibm.com)
on: Tue Jun 23 11:06:49 EDT 1998
Nesan,
IR reached the stage in a short time. I agree.
If you heared the songs of GA and IR, then you can realise. The music is very very similar. All the SO CALLED BIG DIRECTORS and PRODUCER ready to put his name JUST BECAUSE OF SENTIMENTS. Raja came to TFM in 76.. He became the King around early eighties.. Realy it is big thing and MDs like MSV, Shankar-Ganesh, T.R ellam late 80s-la gaali ayuttanga. I agree with this.
Vijay,
If Raja REALY composed the Symphoney, then why didn't he realse that so far. Why that was not performed by Royal Philomornic Archestra? Why??? He conducted the Symphoney about 4 back. Still there is no sign of the symphoney. Why?? Even Raja didn't reply properly for this question. The 'Jagda' between Raja and GA started exactly that time only.
You mentioned that Bharathiraja, KB are also EGOs.. Yes.. Bharathi again called Raja back for "Nadodith Thendral". Do you think Bharathiraja is having ego?
Srinath,
If My 'comments' don't merit a response.. Why did you advise others.. just ignore :):):).... this is also not a personal attack.
General to all:-
You all should know the +ve and -ve side of IR. If you talk about ONLY the +ve side of him then I will always talk about his -ve side of him too.
- From: Srinath (@ socks14d.raleigh.ibm.com)
on: Tue Jun 23 11:30:43 EDT 1998
Prakash:
I was not advising Vijay. I was only expressing my opinion to him. Your statements are unsubstantiated and hence cannot be commented upon at all. Anyway, it made amusing reading. That's all :-)
- From: nesan (@ 129.107.27.103)
on: Tue Jun 23 12:06:43 EDT 1998
Hello Pirakash!!
I dont understand the sentiments that you are talking about. If IR lives because of GA's music
then why couldnt GA became like IR. I kindly ask you NOT to thro invalid arguments on a public forum. If you want to point out his -Ve part, you
are welcome to do so. But dont abuse bettter say misuse the freedom.
About your response to Vijay, so do you think he didnt compose symphony or do u think that GA did it for IR?
About BR's ego:
Didnt IR compose music for him for the same film. Even in the upcoming movie "Vakkapadda poomi." All
these so called big directors are camilions. They all came to a stage bacause of IR music. Even after they reached the stage, they tried with other MD's like Deva for tamilselvan. You know how
success it was. In an interview IR was asked why he is composing music for introductory directors not the 'big directors.' You know what he said?
He said even when he composed music for those 'big
directors' they were also just a introduction to TFM.
I think I will stop here!!!
Come Nitin, I am looking forward to your reply on this regards
Anpin,
Nesan
- From: Srikanth (@ 161.225.48.3)
on: Tue Jun 23 12:56:59 EDT 1998
Hi
Vazga Prakash - A real Terror for all the Hardcore Raja Fans..
Raja Symphony Enge......
Prakash - Can I call you as Subramaniya Swami of TFM page...
Srikanth
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