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Whatever happened to Illayaraja's symphony?

Topic started by Swaminathan N (@ infosys.inf.com) on Wed May 14 15:38:06 EDT 1997.
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• From: MADDY (@ 203.94.234.222) on: Mon Sep 29 23:53:00 EDT 2003
  
  ambleen r u posting messages or "fimli dialogues" here.....too much senti dialogues for IR from ambleen........
  
  who told u that we are not satisfied with ARR's achievements????? he has done things which IR cannot imagine to do........
  ARR has given us many works of his to savour........ the only difference is that IR will give no more works to savour while ARR will continue to give more gr8 albums......
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18) on: Tue Sep 30 00:09:51 EDT 2003
  
  ya rite, we have seen tat for the last 10yrs.
  its enuf proof oredi.
  
  
• From: Sridhar Subramaniam (@ ) on: Fri Nov 21 07:37:54 EST 2003
  
  Folks
  
  I just couldn't help laughing at these posts. We all seem to be busy trying establish that IR is a genius. I just imagine if we would have spoken like this a decade back when ARR was not in the rador screen. Now that IR has gone, I repeat-gone, we want to some how justify that he was, after all, a good composer.
  
  He was, is and will be considered a greatest music phenomenon ever walked in India. He's lost his creativity now. But that doesn't disqualify him of anything. It happens to all geniuses. He's not a machine to churn out tune after tune and we are not labors to keep oiling the machine and expecting continuous production. He did what no other composer in the world could do. And there it ends.
  
  I rest my case.
  
  
• From: Osho (@ 203.197.136.34) on: Fri Nov 21 08:44:29 EST 2003
  
  Maddy
  "ARR will continue to give more gr8 albums".
  Amam. Photo album than kodukka mudiyum. Eppo varra ARR music album oda, oru nalla photo album free'a kodutha ARR fans santhosha paduvanga..
  Appuram great album'nu sollalam. :)
  
  
• From: Partha (@ 61.11.73.158) on: Fri Nov 21 08:47:49 EST 2003
  
  you mean ARR pakku thul photo album,
  
  
• From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67) on: Fri Nov 21 09:24:11 EST 2003
  
  Pl. visit the 'Thiruvasakam in symphony' thread in the discussion forum here to know more on this. It is real and happening!!
  
  
• From: bala (@ 202.88.154.233) on: Fri Nov 21 09:31:02 EST 2003
  
  Hello Sridhar Subhu,
  
  Hav u listened to "Elangathu" song from Pithamagan. I have enjoyed it listenting to it over 100 times...it will touch your heart (if u fully understand the song, not just the rhythm alone) its one of the best number this year (the previous one was the Ramana - Vanavilley) and the one prior to that was (all the songs from Thankarbacchan's Film Azhaghi) ...
  
  so where do u see the end? r u sure that u r talking about IR. check it out again..may be u have mistakenly put IR instead of ARR ;-)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: isai_nanban (@ 68.77.8.29) on: Fri Nov 21 19:13:00 EST 2003
  
  "He was, is and will be considered a greatest music phenomenon ever walked in India. He's lost his creativity now. "
  
  "He's not a machine to churn out tune after tune and we are not labors to keep oiling the machine and expecting continuous production. He did what no other composer in the world could do. And there it ends. "
  
  
  Sridhar: could you please explain the real reason for these statements and how they make sense ;--)
  
  is the Symphony not going to be great? and, so is this why fans like you are organizing the collection events in teh US?
  
  second, Raja' critical mass is still buring like the core of the sun. Evidence is Sambu, Julie Ganapathy, some Kannada films etc... plus, fortcomin Sandiyar.
  
  thirdly, he is probably the only musician with a contructive fan base influencing him to move into to new territories - oiling the machine is for doing same old schit. so, he is not a machine and his fans are not fools.
  
  forthyly, it does not end. the music of IR which evolved over thousands of years and culminated in IR capturing not just the essence of his own feelings in music, but really what music is about, one single entity has been able to place it accurately in context. Only one thing ur right, he has done what no composer can imagine, but he is also doing something no one else has the power to do, that is using fans as "record producers"! This is like ESOP, fans stock options, is the way to go, only hope is that corruption does not get in the way of the purpose!!!!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Jay (@ 203.124.0.248) on: Sat Nov 22 08:53:20 EST 2003
  
  Friends,
  
  Am following these discussion threads for quite sometime now and I see that people time and again try to prove that IR is a genius .. do we really need to do anything to prove that? is it not obvious? In my opinion, it is extremely kiddish to compare IR with ARR who is still a "Kathukutti". Impressing the westerners or scoring music for an English Musical doesnt convey much. I saw people talking abt re-recording, which is IR's forte and Rahman needs to do something on that front. I did not use the word "improve" whilst talking abt Rahman and his re-recording skills. He completely lacks that ability. IR is a veteran. ARR chumma otaraan .. so dont compare.
  
  
• From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67) on: Mon Nov 24 12:35:13 EST 2003
  
  Dear all IIR fans,
  
  
  
  please take some time off from this topic and visit http://www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com/us_team.html to listen to a very important message from IIR. Thanks.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Sridhar Subramaniam (@ ) on: Tue Mar 23 01:31:48 EST 2004
  
  I would like to answer Bala's post. By "Sridhar Subhu" I guess he was referring to me and my comments. Yes, "Ilangathu" is a decent number. "Vanaville" or other Azhagi numbers are passable.
  
  Where is "Ilaya Nila Pozhigirathe", "Poongathu Thirumbuma" or "Anjali Anjali" Mr. Bala? Does "Ilangathu" come anywhere close to the numbers I've mentioned?
  
  The fact is I'm not deriding IR when I say his creativity has come to an end. That happens to everybody. What happened to Michael Jackson, John Lennon can happen to IR too. Barathiraja can never give another Mudhal Mariyathai or Balachander can never produce one more "Avargal". And that does not mean they are not great anymore.
  
  And I'm sure that this will happen to ARR too. A decade later some one else might come up who will make ARR look like he's from Jurrasic Era. Let's accept this and for heaven's sake let's not make this IR vs. ARR into one Rajini vs. Kamal kind of fight. It sucks.
  
  
• From: x (@ 156.153.254.41) on: Tue Mar 23 02:56:43 EST 2004
  
  MADDY, Sridhar Subramaniam:----
  I don't know if u r old or young or mad or iliterates.
  
  
  But before talking about a person like IR have respect who has spend his complete life for music than ARR only for money.
  
  IR is always greatest. Irrespective of what junk ARR does.
  
  
• From: paran (@ 202.172.56.94) on: Tue Mar 23 03:33:56 EST 2004
  
  "for music than ARR only for money. "...
  
  yea yea...at least he stages concert for poor cancer patients....unlike those who signs every single movie on the way..and yet when he wants to do something so-called noble "TiS" he needs money from other's pocket...man ...u r sooo rich..why can't fund the project urself?
  
  
• From: paran (@ 202.172.56.94) on: Tue Mar 23 03:35:31 EST 2004
  
  whatever it is..IR is great...and ARR is not far behind.....and he never works for money.....
  
  
• From: Sridhar Subramaniam (@ 203.145.184.209) on: Tue Mar 23 07:20:06 EST 2004
  
  Maddy, When we're talking about ARR or IR, why bring me into the discussion? How does it matter whether I'm 22 or 65? I'm actually 32 year old guy and I grew up listening to Illayaraja, Beatles, Micheael Jackson, Pet Shop Boys, Madonna, Deep Purple and Scorpions. Not exactly in that order though.
  
  As a matter of fact, it's not me who is talking about IR disrespectfully. It is others in this forum who talk about ARR disrespectfully.
  
  Maddy, you must understand the fact that all the IR fans who try mudslinging at ARR don't realize that, by doing so, you're taking ARR seriously. For instance, why doesn't anybody in this forum try to compare IR with Deva? Why am I not seeing any discussion on IR music vs. Chandrabose compositions? Please think about it. Those who crucified Christ were actually scared of Him.
  
  Let us not cricify ARR. He is doing us proud abroad. Today I'm glad to say that I hail from the place where ARR and IR live. Let us hope and pray that we get more such names.
  
  
• From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.1.173) on: Tue Mar 23 12:43:43 EST 2004
  
  Sridhar,
  
  Comparing IR vs IR u may be right, cos the songs which u mentioned as great were composed in his prime time of his career. But IMO comparing IR with the current lot of junk MD's he is still the greatest.
  
  
• From: sultan (@ 220.226.58.55) on: Wed Mar 24 02:03:47 EST 2004
  
  vada the paiya rajasaranam
  enda pund a i ir than ungala vitu poitar illa
  apparam ennda intha bajanai
  modra vaya
  
  poi neeyum ungaappavum athan ir arr mutaratha kodinga appavavathu music enna theriyum
  
  pund a i nakki
  othea ne poi umbu dai ir pola kasukaga athuku enda inga varey
  vekamketta porukey
  mavaney kaila sikkuney iruku unaku
  apparam ir kum ungalukum irukara relationship nakkeranla potruven
  naey modra vaya
  
  
• From: sultan (@ 220.226.58.55) on: Wed Mar 24 02:45:51 EST 2004
  
  rajasaranam,
  where are your long posts connecting india and srilanka?
  i think you are busy doing mama velai to Ir.
  any guys need of cute girls contact
  saranam75@sify.com
  raja saranam will suppy girls to you.
  he is famous for regularly supplying IR
  yuvan and others.
  please get in touch with him.
  the best broker in the city
  
  
• From: sultan (@ 220.226.58.55) on: Wed Mar 24 02:48:47 EST 2004
  
  rajasaranam is also a tamil fanatic so only tamil girls.
  besides he will insist you to hear ir's music during that time otherwise he will get angry and post a long message bigger than panama canal.
  i talked good about ir and he offered me free service.
  rajasaranam is the best mama in town.
  ask his phone number by writing to him.
  he will soon have a website.
  
  
• From: What A Post (@ 69.41.242.66) on: Wed Mar 24 04:59:37 EST 2004
  
  here are the list of break fast items for ARR p u n d a a m a v e n g e s.
  
  1 cup of ARR's kotta juice
  
  
  lots of ARR's pee to spread on their mouth before spreading on their breads.
  
  2 teaspoons of ARR's c um freshly blowed from his fans' mouths.
  
  and whatever is leftover in his toilet
  
  this is taken home so that they can eat whenever they like.
  
  ps = ARR promised lots of these fans but always fooling them with headache music (include heartache as well!).
  devil bless them.
  
  

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