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New Releases by ARR??

Topic started by Srikanth (@ passport.proxy.lucent.com) on Mon Sep 15 10:23:15 EDT 1997.
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• From: Ganesh (@ solutioncube.com) on: Tue Feb 23 12:41:59 EST 1999
  
  Polambal thangala da sami!!
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Feb 23 14:03:04 EST 1999
  
  Raj, Raj Raj : You are making a valiant attempt to find me, aren't you? Although I share UV's views completely, I am not him. I only use clarify or karthik ....
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Tue Feb 23 14:04:31 EST 1999
  
  Hmm.... what I meant was I share UV's views on this topic ...
  
  
• From: dorai (@ gateway7.ey.com) on: Tue Feb 23 14:28:51 EST 1999
  
  I got a CD of ESK. The music and tunes are below average. Not even worth discussing. ARR has to pack up soon if he follows this path. All the songs were recycled tunes.
  
  
  
• From: leena (@ host-209-214-37-100.mco.bellsouth.net) on: Tue Feb 23 15:39:49 EST 1999
  
  hello mr dorai
  Why dont you srart providing music.Dont you know
  ARR got the best music award on 21 feb.Arr is the only music director who has poeple waiting patiently awaiting to get a glimse of his next release.You need some music lessons
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Tue Feb 23 17:28:49 EST 1999
  
  > ARR got the best music award
  so..?
  
  what's this got to do with ESK?
  
  
• From: SitaRam (@ portal.ameritech.com) on: Tue Feb 23 17:45:32 EST 1999
  
  This thread is containing all kinds of discussion. I have not been here for some time. It is interesting to see this fascinating change. Is this discussion taking differnt turns because ARR is only composing for 2 movies per year and is using the same tunes with different singers?
  
  My suggestion to ARR is compose more songs so that we can talk about many different songs here in this important thread. Otherwise, we can only discuss salman khan, darmendra and kovai sarala.
  
  
• From: Sathish (@ 206.103.12.118) on: Tue Feb 23 22:38:38 EST 1999
  
  Hai
  
  I advise all of u against buying "Jodi" which is to going to be released on Thursday. Its a dubbed tamil version of "Doli Saja ke Rakhna".
  Its very disappointing to see that Rahman is not able to produce new tunes for a film.
  
  
  
  
• From: Neekesh (@ argon.cfu.net) on: Tue Feb 23 22:51:30 EST 1999
  
  Why not buy Jodi? It is just the same as buying Uyirae.. and Dil Se.. like many people did. It is not ARR's fault that the songs are the same. He does not own the songs. The reason why the songs are the same is because the rights to Doli Saja Ke Rakhna's songs were sold by its producer to the producer of Jodi. It is not right to blame ARR. I am sure that I will buy Jodi the same way I have bought everything he has released in Tamil and Hindi.
  
  
• From: KANNA (@ ) on: Wed Feb 24 00:53:06 EST 1999
  
  AR always know to copy music.I feel shame to accept him as a MD.AR really a mudhal.Now AR start to copy his own tunes.You guys just waste your time at this page.
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Feb 24 00:55:28 EST 1999
  
  neekeesh,
  well, go ahead . Nobody's gonna stop u from buying it .it's ur money which getting wasted.
  
  DSKR itself was pedestrian. It's dubbed version will be .........
  
  
• From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com) on: Wed Feb 24 01:08:24 EST 1999
  
  This sure is interesting...indeed, there are many
  soulmates of Neelkesh who buy both Uyirae and Dil se, Sapnay and MK...I had always been wondering what it is that prompts them to take this step. I mean, I am as hardcore a fan of Raja as you can aspire to see and yet having managed to lay my hands upon Abhinandana, Geetanjali and Swathi mutyam , I never bothered to check out Idyathai thi. or Kaathal oivathiilai or chippikkul muthu. Whereas these guys desparately get Sapnay AND MK. But the cake is taken by my friend who bought Uyirae, Dil se and Prema tho. And unfortunately enough he happened share a flat with me. Those were days when I used to stay in office through nights for fear of bombardment on the ears if I go home. At that point of time, my greatest happiness stemmed from the fact that Uyirae wasn't dubbed into Malayalam, or Gujarati or swahili:). And you know, I actually treated him heavily on the day he was transferred to madras:)
  
  Well , but i digress. So, what is it that prompts these guys to take this step. One plausible reason (and the one they would like to quote)could be that Rahman's music knows no language barriers..aha..hes really helping in Natl.Integration etc.
  
  However, I dont think so. The reason is, I feel, and as numerous others have pointed out in this thread yesterday, lack of sufficient (quality) output by this 'genius'.
  In those heady days , as I mentioned earlier, of Raja, I still sought far and wide into telugu ,malayalam for his scores... but he still had a sufficient number of quality output in Tamil so that I never had to take the desparate step of infusing 'new' songs to my ear by buying the same album in Tamil, hindi and telugu.
  I really pity these HC-ARR-F's who , while they may take consolation from the fact that there are many of their ilk, do not have the variety and volume we HC-IR-F's have. And it is not as though after such careful thought and pains, he comes up with absolutely new scores. How much ever they may deny , it is obvious that any discerning ear will pick up the repetititiveness of the tunes , if not other technicalities, of which I am , blessedly, ignorant.
  
  Lastly, my friendly rejoinder to Ms. Leena:
  
  1. "Why dont you srart providing music."
  Ah! Thats a great idea, indeed, Ms.leena. Why not, indeed! What with the state of TFM as it is, this shouldnt be a implausible idea at all. Dorai avargale, I suggest you take this suggestion seriously and I am sure you'll do a better job than Deva, at any rate. With some luck, You mgiht even replace ARR at the top:)
  2."Dont you know ARR got the best music award on 21 feb.Arr is the only music director who has poeple waiting patiently awaiting to get a glimse of his next release."
  
  Well, what can they do but wait patiently when the man doesnt come up with releases at all. Talk of necessity turned into virtue!
  3."You need some music lessons"
  
  With the kind of mu"sick" we have these days, I guess we do need lessons, nay treatment for our obsession with healthy music.:)
  
  Well, to the regulars like geetha: the above post is not meant to take jibes at you. It was just that after a long time I caught a ARR-Fan napping and couldnt resist a few taunts(No offence meant, however:)).
  
  Karthik: Well, I do look beyond the acronyms..oops..pseudonyms for the original author and I think once before I rightly interpreted that UV wasnt you. But this time, I was fooled by the issue that UV took up:)
  
  Okay, guys and gals , now I 'll retire and get ready for the arrows:)
  
  
• From: vijay (@ dialup-225-106.bol.net.in) on: Wed Feb 24 01:59:14 EST 1999
  
  hi to all the friends. Look ESK is absolutely good ok. ARR has come up with worse albums in the past but this one was good. Did you know that i have actually met arr in person about 4 yrs bvack on my 18th birthday . i would like to share this with everyone. Waiting for the next release.
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ cache1.sntc01.pacbell.net) on: Wed Feb 24 03:02:35 EST 1999
  
  Alright RAJ, first arrow is coming from me....i dont understand why you have problem with those who dont mass producing songs...the reason why Rahman has below ten releases a year is becasuse he cares more for quality than quantity...What ur saying is rahman should make more songs good or bad, so people can listen to something. The difference between Illayraja and rahman is this, rahman makes a soundtrack where all the songs presented are worth listening to (and that takes time)...however. illayraja produces a lot more songs a year, where one song from each movie is worth listening to and sometimes not that either. People who listen to rahman's music dont buy cd's in every language hoping it sounds different to satiate their thirst for his songs, they get it because of several other reasons...for example, one would be the language barrier, when u buy something in Hindi and it was first made in tamil, the songs were originally tamil and to get the full potential out of the music it must be heard in tamil....however, since his music is soo good people must buy it in their native language as well.
  
  KANNA...point out one song where rahman completely copied of another music directors (and i dont want to hear about little things like, an interlude here and there)....i want to know one complete song that he copied of off someone.
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ cache1.sntc01.pacbell.net) on: Wed Feb 24 03:02:55 EST 1999
  
  Alright RAJ, first arrow is coming from me....i dont understand why you have problem with those who dont mass produce songs...the reason why Rahman has below ten releases a year is becasuse he cares more for quality than quantity...What ur saying is rahman should make more songs good or bad, so people can listen to something. The difference between Illayraja and rahman is this, rahman makes a soundtrack where all the songs presented are worth listening to (and that takes time)...however. illayraja produces a lot more songs a year, where one song from each movie is worth listening to and sometimes not that either. People who listen to rahman's music dont buy cd's in every language hoping it sounds different to satiate their thirst for his songs, they get it because of several other reasons...for example, one would be the language barrier, when u buy something in Hindi and it was first made in tamil, the songs were originally tamil and to get the full potential out of the music it must be heard in tamil....however, since his music is soo good people must buy it in their native language as well.
  
  KANNA...point out one song where rahman completely copied of another music directors (and i dont want to hear about little things like, an interlude here and there)....i want to know one complete song that he copied of off someone.
  
  
• From: Raj (@ master.hyd.deshaw.com) on: Wed Feb 24 03:32:25 EST 1999
  
  Kumar: With due respect, the answers to your questions, if you care to notice, are there in my previous post itself.Well, to be honest, your arrow wasn't of unexpected ilk. I expected it and thats why I took pains to pre-empt it in my previous post only. Looks like it is not a good idea at all. I donthave the time to rewrite now. I'll get back to you tonight. But as a summary,
  1. Rahman takes time to come up with say two albums per year. And I find that only one "Eh ajnabi" in uyirae is different and listenable. What price all the pains he takes if he cannopt come up with new tunes or innovations. His claim to fame initially was he sounded different form Raja..not that he gave better quality than Raja. Now, he is getting repetitive inspite of taking so much time and pains. Wheere does it leave him viz-a-viz Raja?
  
  2. Raja didnt give n albums and just one or zero good songs in each of these albums. In his peak,
  1. He scored 30-40 albums per year
  2. Atleast twenty of these were super-hits of great quality, innovation, variety.
  3. Fifteen of these twenty movies invariably contained atleast 60-80% good songs. And it took Raja very little time to produce these. because he was and is and shall remain the incomparable genius that he is. So, if you seek to compare Raja and Rehman, it will be to the latter's detriment.
  
  Your otehr argument is incoherent and inconsistent. I'll come to it when I get time.See ya!
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ cache1.sntc01.pacbell.net) on: Wed Feb 24 04:06:22 EST 1999
  
  RAJA..Rahman's claim to fame in the beginning was not based only on the fact that he sounds different to Illayraja, it was due to the fact that he sounded different from anyone in the market (hindi, tamil, or telugu).... and he sounded great (Roja was one of his best compostions)....You might say that eh ajnabi was the only one that was "listenable", but coming from an illayaraja fan, im not surprised...I personally thought Dilse was one of the top 5 movies rahman has ever scored for...I used to be a Illayraja fan myself when i was younger (pre-roja days)...and im willing to accept that Illayraja did produce most of the box-office hits and "listenable" songs, but u must comply that competition against him was no where to be found....in fact, im suprised at how quickly he has faded in the recent years since the introduction of Rahman to TFM...We can dwell in the 70's and 80's when Illayraja had produced great songs, but the music wasnt faced with a drastic change in TFM for several years (and more than a decade)....Suddenly, Rahman comes in and changes the way songs are produced (in both Hindi as well as Tamil), and Illayraja just wilted away, i recognize the fact that he is only second to Rahman today, but this is once again the result of a lack of competition (which would be Deva)....You hold only 2 arguments against Rahman,...i shall continue this later for i must leave now..
  
  

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