
Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.
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- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.9.175.244)
on: Sat Jul 7 14:18:08 EDT 2001
Arul,
Nallaa Sonneenga! I did not how to answer but you did the same!
Welcome To:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/maestroilaiyaraajafansclub
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 202.9.175.244)
on: Sat Jul 7 14:20:15 EDT 2001
Oops! Read, "I did not how" as "I did not know how"!
SORRY!
- From: Athi (@ c1200282-a.mntp1.il.home.com)
on: Sat Jul 7 17:09:55 EDT 2001
Arul,
If you had observed the moderator of this forum (bb) has also joined in the mudslinging on IR which is the current trend of this forum. There are many of these so called self proclaimed unbiased music listeners who will criticize IR for any small reason that they will find and will
praise ARR for any small reason and sometimes for
things like recycling.
Athi
- From: Karthik (@ adsl-21-129-96.mia.bellsouth.net)
on: Sat Jul 7 18:34:11 EDT 2001
Athi, give me a break. Calling a song bad is mudslinging? This is a forum to express opinions. There is nothing that says moderators should not have an opinion.
The song is at best mediocre, made worse by Latas rendition. And, no, I am no rabid IR hater. Get a life, man.
- From: MS (@ cache145.sc.edu)
on: Sat Jul 7 18:49:20 EDT 2001
Athi:
Please stop whining. I fail to understand how inspite of everybody's best efforts u are still consistent in your maudlin propoganda. If u have a point, put it across straight. U have nothing but 3 things to say in different fashions:
Everybody is bashing IR
ARR recycles
Forumers are degrading you
There is more in life than just crying and blaming. And if you do not know what good things life can offer, take a walk down the road. U will find atleast a pizza hut.
- From: Layman (@ 206.175.176.2)
on: Sat Jul 7 20:02:35 EDT 2001
Arul :
Wonderfully put. EdhO indha pAttulathAn IR Oda edhirkAlamE adangi irukkarA mAdhiri posts. What a joke!!
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53)
on: Sun Jul 8 00:03:20 EDT 2001
LIstened to the song. Given the situation and other limitations, it is very good and classic IR. When I say classic - his typical orchestration and developments.
- From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.226)
on: Sun Jul 8 00:21:15 EDT 2001
What a great song lah.Very good IR.You is still the best in the world.Lata voice is also good.You guys don't bluff about IR music or Lata voice.IR know how to choose singers.Usire,Lajja,Kathal Sathi,Andan Adimai and many more to come lah.IR is a true Genius.
- From: Rameshvenkataraman (@ 202.9.163.56)
on: Sun Jul 8 00:34:38 EDT 2001
Hello All,
I am sorry to write this. But as an ardent IR fan it pains me to hear the general talk in the industry about the unprofessional behaviour of IR...partiacularly the inordinate delay in his schedules now a days....the long long long time that he seems to take for even a run of the mill things.
You see to give you an example, let us look at the Laaja thing.
He spent almost one month in a five star hotel in Chennai to compose the score.
Then he went to Budapest for a 10 day recording that covered only about 8 reels of the movie.
He came back and spent another 10 days to mix the electoronics like keyboards, etc.
Now he has just started the mixing of strings portion (violin, viola, cellos..etc.) and that will take another 10 days.
Will you blame Santoshi for regretting his decision to take this man on his team for the BGM. What this man is doing is not professionally ethical. And this view is some thing strongly echoed by the members of his orchestra. But then off late whether song or bgm recording, IR takes a long long time is very well known. And in the process he is bent of losing even the little of professsional respect he has in the industry.
As some one wrote in this thread, he seems to be more interested in doing his experimentation with symphony orchestra at some one else's cost than doing the music required by the film on hand. Otherwise can you find any worthwhile reason for using the Budapest orchestra for this hindi film when he has achieved much more greater results with his own local orchestras for many a film in the past.
The man seems to be in his own world, far far away from reality and in the process digging his own grave.
Venkat
- From: Karthik (@ adsl-21-129-96.mia.bellsouth.net)
on: Sun Jul 8 00:55:24 EDT 2001
Rameshvenkatraman -- who told you all this? Composing with a full symphony orchestra is a time-consuming process (ask John Williams). A couple of months to do all this is very very fast by any standard.
I was the one who had posted that IR is using these opportunities as practise. I did not mean it in a derogatory sense. You think IR chose to compose for Lajja in Budapest? I am sure Santoshi wanted a symphony orchestra to play the background for his movie, and IR agreed - and both of them benefit.
- From: ambleen (@ ntce1.156ce.singa.pore.net)
on: Sun Jul 8 07:04:03 EDT 2001
Halo Rameshvenkataraman or whatever f*#k name you choose,
pls don waste our time here.
- From: Curious Onlooker (@ adsl-151-197-219-39.phila.adsl.bellatlantic.net)
on: Sun Jul 8 13:28:14 EDT 2001
What I do'nt understand is that the same man went on record(Hey!ram interview) saying that he would'nt just do BGM but the complete movie.
Why this turnaround?
Is it a ploy to get into to HFM? If thats the case then Maniratnam is the best way to do it. Or Lajja must have impresed him so much to throw his principle to dust.
Whatever it is, it smuck's desperation or a much deeper urge to do experimental stuff.
It looks like at the drop of a hat he runs to Budapest. Hey!ram had subtle scores which is almost impossible to discern for the average ear.
It will be a great service if he can come out and give an interview on this sudden change in his mind. Raajangham are U listening.
- From: Athi (@ c1200282-a.mntp1.il.home.com)
on: Sun Jul 8 13:29:34 EDT 2001
Venkat,
If IR takes too much time for his compositions as per your statements,
the producers have a very good option
in ARR who composes at very high (!!!)
speed and will request Sabesh Murali
for the special BGM if he doesn't have
time (because of his London Commitments).
Another instance of the same statement
which is a complaint for IR and compliment
for ARR. And people say I am whining.
Athi
- From: raja fan (@ pppa14-resalerockford1-3r7238.dialinx.net)
on: Sun Jul 8 13:43:24 EDT 2001
venkat, velliye po, get out i say. odi po, get out from here. what nonsense
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187)
on: Sun Jul 8 13:47:03 EDT 2001
>>>take a walk down the road. U will find atleast a pizza hut.
Why? As athi to take a walk in the middle of the road. He/She might not come back to the forum there after.
- From: arul (@ ppp-190-152.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sun Jul 8 14:11:23 EDT 2001
Dear Mr Venkat!
If your idea was to shock people in this forum, you have succeeded, brilliantly!
You have proved once again that ignorance is bliss- your comments not only confirm that you are totally ignorant about what you are commenting on, but that you are taking pride in your ability to shock people with your ignorance!
So far the responses in this forum have been pretty serious, coming from the heart, but it is totally refreshing to hear some humour-only i am not so sure whether people are making them knowingly or whether they are unwittingly making a fool of themselves.
Anyway, looking forward to more of your comments-keeps us entertained. I need'nt read anymore sardarji jokes-there is a sardar in our midst itself who goes by the name of Rameshvenkataraman!
So guys, lets enjoy!
love,
Arul
- From: S T S (@ c1319060-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com)
on: Sun Jul 8 19:04:00 EDT 2001
Curious Onlooker,
Yes, IR refused to do Hey Ram initially. Then at the instance of Kamal agreed to do it. Kamal might have begged him. Now, do you want him to ditch Kamal. Whatever the story is, IR has a great regard for Kamals acting skills and he did it and rest is history. Doing a song in Lajja to try to Hindi is simply laugable! If you think Hindi is ultimate, then I find no point to argue with you.
Lajja must have impresed him so much to throw his principle to dust.
If you can clarify what you mean here it will be appreciated.
- From: Curious Onlooker (@ adsl-151-197-211-24.phila.adsl.bellatlantic.net)
on: Sun Jul 8 21:15:21 EDT 2001
STS,
My point was IR accepted Hey!ram on condition that he would also do the songs. He overlayed his songs done by LS. Why did he then accept santoshi's offer to do BGM and one song with AM doing the rest?
He turned 180 deg in 2 years.
We need an explanation for this turnaround. He went on air after doing re-recording for Hey!ram and boasted about his principle of not doing just BGM's but the full movie.
As an IR fan I am very disappointed by his action. Hence the desire to seek an explantion.
- From: Athi (@ c1200282-a.mntp1.il.home.com)
on: Mon Jul 9 00:33:49 EDT 2001
Common Friend,
Please don't be of the impression that you
are being too smart. Why don't you take a
walk in the middle of the road hearing your
favourite ARR's music and we can wait and
see whether you are returning back to the forum or not. You might write that it was just for fun but it is not and it is depressing to see people
stoop to such low levels to personally attack others. And this forum's moderator doesn't consider this as personal attack.
Athi
- From: S T S (@ c1319060-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com)
on: Mon Jul 9 00:38:39 EDT 2001
Curious Onlooker,
Why did IR work with MSV in Mella Thirandhathu Kathavu and Senthamizh Paattu? There was NO condition for Hey Ram. Kamal requested and hence IR obliged. IR had to do since LS completed only songs. What is wrong if AM is doing songs of the film? AM and Anand-Milind otherwise survived by lifting IRs tunes. It was news that Santhosi came to IR for BGM and IR might have agreed to score a song. It is not possible for IR or anyone to announce why they do something or why they don't. If you don't like, it is fine. But if you expect some explanation, then that will be unwarrented.
- From: raja fan (@ pppa86-resalerockford1-3r7238.dialinx.net)
on: Mon Jul 9 01:22:15 EDT 2001
curious onlooker: ( bytheby, are you bi by any bychance?
things change all the time, IR made statements at that time suitable for that circumstance. now, it is different, people want him to do bgm and out of sheer love for IR, Santhoshi must have wanted a song for pleasing IR who knows?
do we know the dynamics? whatever works is the key to a successful relationship these days....
(please ignore the bi-curious thing, i just pulling leg...
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