
Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.
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- From: Krishnan (@ fw2.torolab.ibm.com)
on: Thu Dec 30 18:13:55 EST 1999
Hi,
Check out the following..
http://www.the-hindu.com/stories/0931070p.htm
Krishnan
- From: Srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Thu Dec 30 18:24:20 EST 1999
Mr. Ilayaraja said like music which retains a unity whatever form it takes, the inner qualities of all living beings remain the same.
......we just require 7 notes!...to do any form of music...
- From: kiru (@ surf0004.sybase.com)
on: Thu Dec 30 18:38:37 EST 1999
Srikanth you have this tendency to want to have the last word :) have you noticed this yourself ??
Take it easy dude.
IR should learn computer science. He is going to be amazed by what all we can do with 1 and O :) :)
- From: Baseless Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.22.112)
on: Thu Dec 30 18:48:00 EST 1999
yeah..when he can create magic with 12 entities, he can create wonders with 2 too :-)
- From: srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74)
on: Thu Dec 30 19:22:51 EST 1999
fyi:we just require 7 notes!...to do any form of music... this was also told by raja in an interview to the week.
Kiru: ?? did not get you.
- From: Jay Narayanasamy (@ 1cust5.tnt3.har1.da.uu.net)
on: Thu Dec 30 21:22:35 EST 1999
Srikanth,Kiru,Anand: Interesting discussion. Feel like reading again. Why don’t you start a separate thread for this (recording quality)? Here I must mention about mugam, arputham.
- From: amplitude (@ 203.127.198.229)
on: Thu Dec 30 21:23:37 EST 1999
Hi,
Can someone please upload Kannulul Nilavu & Tirunelveli songs please.
Hav'a' great New year
- From: s.senthilkumar (@ 202.144.10.93)
on: Thu Dec 30 22:27:10 EST 1999
"Andhi Mazhai pozhikiradu" would have evoked the same emotions wether its digital or analog. (anand Mahadevan)
this is the point regarding Raja sir's composing!
"my concern or feelings in this issue is when a junk is being recorded properly why not the real piece of art get that attention(srikanth)"
this also seems correct!
lets wish raja sir will improve his quality of recording of his songs to the Highest standards!
-senthil
- From: Anand Mahadevan (@ maxtnt10-abe-202.fast.net)
on: Fri Dec 31 03:53:57 EST 1999
Srikanth,
Your point on junk music wiping out good compositions due to lack of recording quality is a little farfetched.
A song will have its reach only when the public starts to listen to good music or I would say discern the good from the junk.
I will attribute this to the fact that folks back home now rely on television as their only window to the world.They have forgotten all other forms of media.When I was in India, they were jamming ads for a movie "hello",which stars prashanth and some junk actress.Almost every 5 mins an ad from this movie with a song "salam gulamo" kept pounding my ears and inevitably I started humming the tune in 2 days.Now I find this song in the top 10. This is exactly whats happened.Nobody has listened to "TIME" and its history now.
The point I am trying to make is , in the changed indian world of pepsi and coke all one needs is to market.Its not the quality of recording but the sheer marketing force which determines a popularity of a song.Gone are the days of vividh bharati and Madras A where we get good songs.Its the days of Sony and Sun which are acting as a window to the outside world.
Anand
- From: aruvi (@ bonn08.slip.yorku.ca)
on: Fri Dec 31 10:51:45 EST 1999
KN is a pretty good album. I wouldn't say that it is 10:1 with Kaathalukku Mariyaathai. It's just about as good. But I think I like KM better. Anuradha Sriram's voice doesn't suit along with KJY. They should have used Chithra or someone else. The album is just about as good as KM, and of course, there are mixed feelings about KM. I expect the same with KN. Let's see...
- From: srikanth (@ wdslppp129.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Fri Dec 31 13:05:14 EST 1999
anand , poor recording qualty is one the attribute.....ofcourse marketing is the key word for any product that needs to reach the public.
Happy new year guys!
- From: S.T.Srinivasan (@ sf-ip-3-40.dynamic.ziplink.net)
on: Fri Dec 31 15:20:13 EST 1999
Friends,
For Sethu songs, visit my site
http://stsrinivasan.tripod.com/TamilSongs
- From: ravi k.s. ravichandran (@ pub-dial61.aclis.utah.edu)
on: Fri Dec 31 18:58:50 EST 1999
Folks;
Good that someone is talking about recording. I think recording no doubt will enhance the appeal of the song. But the composition has to be a good one to make that happen. Like they say in tamil, "Sattiyil Irunthathanae Ahappayil Varum ? (silly translation: something should be in the pot to grab it in spoon; forgive me if this is too crude!) But it is more fitting here.
IMO, IR's songs of the 80s would be classics of the classics if he had access to the high quality (even analogue) recordings they used to have in the west. Remember, digital recording in only recent. Look at the (analogue) recordings of "sound of music", "Chariots of Fire", "Star Wars (old)", and other classics of that time...In west, especially in classical music, proper balacing of bass, ambience and tone was very much stressed in recording those musics. Even if Bach and Mozart were alive today they would be amazed about the "ambience" in the recordings of their songs. In their days, the ambience was created in halls like churches, theatres where they conducted their music. That means the balancing (note balancing!) the whole spectrum of audible scale from 20Hz (low end) to 20KHz (high end) was made possible by building design, provided the composition included all the instruments from low end (drums, chellos, violas, clarinet,etc) to high end (fiddle, harpsichord, trumpet, horn), while piano, violin, guitar, flute and other strings occupied the mid range. In these days, we need a good sound engineer and a mixer to balance it in studio recordings!
Seldom those musicians did, I am sure they would have despised, was playing in street! How could Yanni conduct such a breathtaking symp such as in "Live at Archipolis (spelled right?)". He had to have a very good sound reproduction system to blow the music out as it would sound in a theatre.
IR's songs would be even more wonderful if he had such high tech recordings at his disposal. He was limited by what he had those days, but I think he made the best use of them than anyone else. IMO, he probably one to boost the bass (use of bass guitar, thambura or viola) in songs, before him the songs were pretty flat. Many old songs do not have anything below, probaly, 400Hz!. Imagine with the potent mid scale of TMS's voice those days ! I think IR also brought things in the high end by using lots of organ and guitar. I only wish he had what even some amature musicians have today!
Many IR songs I hear I wish he had the tech. stuff to build the ambience in songs. One such song is "Yen Iniya Pohn Nilave.." This song, IMO, is a magical piece with lots of rare intruments playing, yet we can hardly isolate one. But it still sounds wonderful. The composition is basically excellent and clever. But the recording or reproduction had eaten up some of the excellence!.
One of the several IR songs that had a matching recording quality with the excellent composition is "Akkaraiseemai.." in movie Priya. This song was actually recorded in Singapore. The interludes have some nice baroque pieces in it and it is on par with the western quality of recording.
Anyway, if IR can simply rerecord his songs and market them now, it could simply wipe out lot of noise that is being made by other musicians! However, You can enhance IR songs' listening pleasure by buying a good graphic equalizer (buy a 10 band one for each channel) and playing with it to boost the "bass" or to "tone" down the high end and needle noise.
It seems to me in recent songs recording supercedes or even overwhelms composition!.
- From: ¶Visiri (@ bonobo.tesserae.com)
on: Fri Dec 31 20:56:40 EST 1999
Hi Friends.....http://www.dinakaran.com/audio/poonth/newyear.ram"> FACE="Verdana">Happy New Year! Click this for a IR's New Year song!!
Comedy of this millenium Deva sings a duet in Athaanda Ithaanda!J
- From: ¶Visiri (@ bonobo.tesserae.com)
on: Fri Dec 31 21:01:02 EST 1999
Hi Friends.....http://www.dinakaran.com/audio/poonth/newyear.ram"> FACE="Verdana">Happy New Year! Click this for a IR's New Year song!!
Comedy of this millenium..... Deva sings a duet in Athaanda Ithaanda!J
- From: srikanth (@ wdslppp129.sttl.uswest.net)
on: Sat Jan 1 13:07:53 EST 2000
Just to kick off in the new century!....
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