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Creativity of MSV

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-117.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Sat Jan 10 15:32:47 EST 1998.
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• From: rameshb (@ spider-tf053.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Jul 29 00:17:43 EDT 1999
  
  Karthi, you're welcome
  
  "thaedinen vanthathu" should be Ok now. Enjoy the song! I don't have 'ninathaal siruppu varum', please put up your request in the rare melodies thread may be somebody has it. I have some numbers like
  'silai eduthaan intha',
  'pOga pOga theriyum',
  'enna enna vArthaigaLO',
  'neerAdum kaNgaL',
  'ammammA kAtRu vanthu',
  'iravukku aayiram kaNgaL',
  'pagalilE chandiranai pArka pOnEn ',
  'sonnathu neethAnA'
  
  SK,
  
  I visited PPP page and was delighted to listen to 'aarOdum maNNil' song. I was hankering after this for quite sometime and i couldn't get it during my last visit to india. The guy who records songs for me had all other songs from 'pazhani' , but this!
  
  Of all the three singers , TMS's expressions are more captivating ( i am not taking away any credits from SG or PBS by saying this) than the rest. He delivers with a zeal giving kinda punch for those lines
  "kai kattich chEvai seithu, kaNgaL kettu uLLam kettu, poi solli pichchai kEttal aNNai bhoomi gEli seivAL".
  SG excels in his high pitch rendering taking it from TMS and ALR, 'oorodum sErnthunnlaam...aaaaaaa....!'
  
  MS;-)
  
  
  
• From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Jul 29 06:55:00 EDT 1999
  
  
  I have updated this week's songs in the ppp_songs
  page. I have put 15 songs this time.
  
  rameshb:
  
  Thanks. I have added a link to your page.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ dhcp-css-consult-12.redbrick.com) on: Thu Jul 29 20:52:51 EDT 1999
  
  SK,mail kidaithatha?
  I could not play any song on your page.
  SK, Rameshb could you try encoding 'KaNNile anbirunthaal' (PS version) from 'Aanandi' and kanavil nindra thirumugam (TMS) movie ?
  
  MS ..Oops sorry Velai Yeppadi irukke
  
  
• From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Thu Jul 29 21:33:43 EDT 1999
  
  Sriram:
  
  I got your mail. I will reply today. Why are you
  not able to listen to the songs? Haven't you
  installed a free version of the RealPlayer on
  your machine? I have kaNNilE anbirundhaal.
  I will load it in next week's nEyar viruppam.
  kanavil nindra thirumugam? I haven't heard
  of this song. Can you give me more details?
  
  
• From: ippo theriyudha (@ 1cust63.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net) on: Fri Jul 30 00:53:14 EDT 1999
  
  Kanavil Nindra Thirumugam...kanni Aval Arimugam...
  
  
• From: raja (@ icon-njfw.icon.com) on: Fri Jul 30 09:19:25 EDT 1999
  
  What ragam is Kannile Anbirundhal based on?
  What are the other songs from Anandhi?
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ stagfw.thehartford.com) on: Fri Jul 30 11:26:00 EDT 1999
  
  I have completed melodies of MSV - part II with the following numbers
  
  36. mAthavip poN mayilAL thOgai viriththAL - Iru Malargal - TMS
  37. kaettathum koduppavanE krishna krishna - theiva magan - TMS
  38. unnai cholli kutRam illai ennai chooli kutRam illai - kulamagaL rAthai(MD - KVM) - TMS
  39. sollAthE yArum kaettAl ellorum thAnga mAttAr - sorgam - TMS
  40. pOga pOga theriyum intha poovin vAsam puRiyum - server sundaram - PBS,PS
  
  Part - III will come up soon with TMS's 'thaththuva' songs and PS's solo's
  
  Sriram L,
  I don't have 'kaNavil nindRa'.
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust15.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net) on: Fri Jul 30 16:11:36 EDT 1999
  
  The other songs from Aanandhi:
  
  kannilE Anbirundhaal (TMS)
  Unnai Adaindha Manam Vaazhga (PS)
  
  
• From: raja (@ spider-tm044.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jul 31 10:42:05 EDT 1999
  
  Karthi:
  
  Thanks. I dont remember Unnai Adaindha. Kanniley is a great tune (PS -who else :))
  
  
• From: raja (@ spider-tl022.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Jul 31 11:04:34 EDT 1999
  
  Karthi:
  
  Thanks. I dont remember Unnai Adaindha - Kannile is a great song (PS-of course :)
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ ip47.kansas-city7.mo.pub-ip.psi.net) on: Sun Aug 1 01:38:00 EDT 1999
  
  Guys,
  
  Just a request. Could you please start a separate thread and list your uploads of MSV songs there. Everytime I have checked this thread to read new material about the creativity of MSV, I have got only upload info.
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust64.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net) on: Sun Aug 1 04:18:54 EDT 1999
  
  wow! RajaG! Long time no see :))
  
  
• From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Sun Aug 1 16:15:46 EDT 1999
  
  Karthi & Sriram:
  
  Kanavil Nindra Thirumugam...kanni Aval Arimugam
  
  maNdaiyai udaichchu paaththuttEn! I am unable to
  recollect any such TMS song!
  
  rameshb:
  
  As rajaG says, perhaps we should mention uploadings
  in another thread, say the "Old Songs" thread.
  I don't think a separate thread is needed. What
  do you say?
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm540-14.dialip.mich.net) on: Sun Aug 1 16:18:48 EDT 1999
  
  SK the song is
  
  kanavil nindra thirumugam
  kanni aval pudhumugam
  kangalukkum nenjathukkum arimugam
  (i think its from Thulasi maadam)
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-wm013.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Aug 1 20:46:15 EDT 1999
  
  SK
  you are right! let me not defile the sanctity of this thread by posting 'unwanted' information about uploads. However, i am not very sure about the 'objective' of the 'old songs' thread also.
  
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-wm013.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Aug 1 21:02:31 EDT 1999
  
  SK,
  you are right! i don't want to defile the sanctity of this thread further by giving some unwanted upload information. I thought those who visit this thread would be eager to the availability of MSV songs on the net. But i am wrong! However i am not sure about the 'objective' of the 'old songs' thread also.
  
  
• From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Sun Aug 1 21:46:46 EDT 1999
  
  rameshb:
  
  I have started a separate page for our purpose...
  https://newtfmpage.com/forum/13018.21.44.58.html
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm540-29.dialip.mich.net) on: Sun Aug 1 21:54:12 EDT 1999
  
  I was listening to 'oru naaL yaaro'in the PPP page. In the line 'mella thirandhadhu kadhavu'
  PS pronounces mella as 'meLLa' or is it supposed to be 'meLLa'?Did any of you notice this?
  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Mon Aug 2 16:53:03 EDT 1999
  
  rAmki,
  
  both are accepted forms. i remember reading meLLa in many poems. a famous one is in bhArathiyAr's aRivE theivam. he writes
  
  meLLap palatheivam kUttivaLarththu
  ---veRunkadhaikaL sErththup- pala
  kaLLa madhangaL parappudhRkOrmuRai
  ---kAttavum vallIrO.
  
  that whole poem is a vintage bArathi stuff.
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm538-33.dialip.mich.net) on: Mon Aug 2 18:44:53 EDT 1999
  
  Arul thanks for the clarification
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust150.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net) on: Mon Aug 2 20:38:05 EDT 1999
  
  enna ramki, meLLa theriyaadha :))
  
  
• From: SK (@ azure.nus.edu.sg) on: Mon Aug 2 21:25:48 EDT 1999
  
  Ramki:
  
  naan aLLik koLLa
  avaL paLLi koLLa - sugam
  meLLa meLLavE theriyum
  
  is another one. aruL is quite right.
  Depending the rhyming needed in the
  context, both mella and meLLa
  can be used.
  
  
• From: thambiran (@ attcat.ds-us.com) on: Fri Aug 6 08:59:33 EDT 1999
  
  SK:
  
  in the above song, Vali uses "suvai" for "sugam".
  meLLa meLLa meNNu sApitAl suvai athigamAgum,
  athu mAthiri, MGR SDeviyai meLLanumAm.
  
  PS sometimes kuLaRify the la, La, za
  
  in Kandhan KaruNai she sings:
  
  solla solla inikuthadA
  
  but it should be :
  
  cholla cholla inikuthadA
  
  sol - as a single word its OK
  but as a IRATAI KILAVI it should be "cholla cholla"
  
  TMS makes it clear in two songs:
  "sollAthE yArum kEttAl"
  and
  "cholli cholli koduthAl varumA"
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Fri Aug 6 11:30:07 EDT 1999
  
  thambiran,
  
  i think, when the oli 's' 'ch' comes as the first consonant, then it IS 'ch'. sol should be chol. sOdhanai should be chOdhanai. it is chORu. due to sanskritization we have started using the 's' sound at the beginnning also like in 'sol', 'sORu' etc.
  
  sorry for the digression.
  
  
• From: karthi (@ 1cust156.tnt1.rantoul.il.da.uu.net) on: Fri Aug 6 20:06:04 EDT 1999
  
  thambiran, may be because of the way we got used to speaking and hearing words, certain things cannot change - and if changed, they will be difficult to accept. Like "cholla cholla".
  
  PS sings "sollach cholla" (neither solla solla nor cholla cholla) which I feel is correct. She does make mistakes but it's rare.
  
  For eg., try saying this sentence using "cho" instead of "so":
  
  "indha vishayathai avar unga kitta sollach cholli sonnaaru"
  
  If you replace all so's with cho's, doesn't sound odd?
  
  
• From: thambiran (@ attcat.ds-us.com) on: Mon Aug 9 01:43:12 EDT 1999
  
  aruLarasan, karthi:
  
  ungaLin explanations-ai solliyum cholliyum pArthEn.
  purinthEn.
  nandRi
  
  I need another help. I am trying to remember the lines
  of MSV's song "allA alla" from Mugamadhu pin tuglag(or k ?).
  
  "udal veLukka neer-thAn uNdu"
  "maNam veLukka beer-thAn Undu"
  
  Is the second line correct ? (rhyming sounds good)
  water purifies body and beer does the same for mind.
  But I am sure vAli wouldn't have return such thing
  for a sort-of-bakthi-song like this.
  
  Can you please help me with correct lines. Thanks
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Mon Aug 9 14:42:22 EDT 1999
  
  thambiran--
  
  - 'solla cholla' is the correct version, because of the thing called 'sandhi' in tamil. ( solla + ch + solla )
  
  - and, it's not 'Irattai Kilavi'; but it is 'adukku thodar'. Adukku thodar is a repetition of meaningful words. Irattai Kilvi is repetition of words that dont have any meaning when separated.
  
  Arularasan--
  
  I think it's only natural to pronunce the words beginning with 's' as 's'. When the sandhi is added, they are pronunced as 'ch'. For example:
  - soru; nellu choru
  - saram; muthu charam
  
  To me, these sound more natural. If we say 'ch' all the time, then we might loose the following formations:
  - poonjolai ( poo + solai)
  - maanjolai ( maa + solai)
  
  
• From: nakkeeran (@ inet-fw1-o.oracle.com) on: Mon Aug 9 14:43:39 EDT 1999
  
  btw,
  
  digression is regretted! :-)
  
  

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