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Kannadasanin padaippugal

Topic started by Ramki (@ proxy7.cyberway.com.sg) on Sat Jun 21 00:14:12 EDT 1997.
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• From: Geetha (@ gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk) on: Thu Feb 18 08:36:54 EST 1999
  
  Ragapriyan/cram: I too noticed this in Telephone Manipol.... I also interpreted it(it was a blatent statement, in very clear Tamil...) as possessiveness, as you've done. It definitely is a sign of the times....
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ spider-tm022.proxy.aol.com) on: Thu Feb 18 11:20:35 EST 1999
  
  Ramki, Ragapriyan, others
  Do you remember the song in which kannadasan having portrayed sex in such delicate manner that kinda wheedle your sensual cravings.
  Kavingar takes you thru the course in a most eloquent manner.
  The song is from 'nAn avanillai',MSV
  
  rAdha kAdhal varAdhA
  navaneethan geetham bOthai tharAtha
  rAja leelai thoda rAdhA (rAdha
  
  seemAntha malarsoodum
  poNNArntha kuzhalAlai
  thAlattum pullAnguzhal
  senthoora nathiyOdum
  sevvAyin ithazhOram
  kanna un kAthal kadal
  iLaya neerittu
  udai mattum nazhuvum
  sugamenna solladi rAdha (rAdha
  
  manthAra mazhai mEgam
  nindrAdum vizhi vaNdu
  koNdAdum isai yalladi
  thALAtha idai meethu
  thaLLAdum maniththangu
  AdAtho unkai vazhi
  mArgazhi Odai
  pOloru vAdai
  ennidam yEnadi rAdha (rAdha
  
  The entire song is written in an intransitive sense. SPB has sung
  this number and what more can you ask for?
  The song is available at Ramaswamy gireesan's site
  
  http://wormhole.m59.big.ac.at/~grama/
  
  So listen to the song and knock yourself out
  
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ csg05.cs.wmich.edu) on: Thu Feb 18 11:24:15 EST 1999
  
  
  
  closing italics
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ csg05.cs.wmich.edu) on: Thu Feb 18 12:34:38 EST 1999
  
  Ragapriyan i dont think i will agree with your explanation for 'unnazhagai'. He could have written
  'unnazhagai kandukondaal munivanukke aasai varum
  or kizhavanukke aasai varum'-but by pengalukke aasai varum he means what he says.
  
  There is one more song on the same lines. Im not able to recall now but will try to pizhinjify my memory before tonite
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ 202.188.1.83) on: Thu Feb 18 12:56:43 EST 1999
  
  RAMKI
  malaratha penmai malarum-munbu theriyatha unmai theriyum-
  these lines were almost censored by the censorship board for reasons of "vulgarism", but the board cleared the song on the strength of poetic beauty.
  
  Now MY CONTRIBUTION. Please enjoy reading with an educational eye.
  
  1. Thottuvida thottuvida thodarum
  Kai pattuvida pattuvida malarum
  -from Dharmam Thalaikaakkum-banned by AIR in 1962
  
  2. Engengo naan irunthen-oru Ilamai virunthil mithanthen-kankaLai meeNdum thiRanthen
  Sugam kaNdEN kaNdEn kaNdEn
  -from Panakkara Kudumbam-banned by AIR in 1962
  
  3. Hello hello sugama?.....
  M=Kaalayil Naan Varattuma Kannil marunthu tharattuma?
  F=Marunthu thanthaal pothuma mayakkam athil theeruma?
  M=theerthu vaippen naanamma thevai enna kElamma
  F=NErathodu kidaikkuma ninaikka ninaikka inikkuma?
  
  4.
  F= Kanni nathiyoram Minni vilayadum
  Unnazhagu mEni enna kathai kooRum?
  
  M=Munthanai mugavuRaiyo
  Mukkanikku onRu kuRaiyo
  senthEnil theLivuraiyo
  sErnthathum mudivuraiyo
  
  F= peNmEni oonjal vENdumo
  pozhuthellaam aadavENdumo
  paalaatril neenthaveNdumo
  pasiyaaRi thoongavENdumo?
  
  5.
  F=Mella mella enthan mEni nadunguthu mella.....
  
  M= athi pazhathukku mElazhagu unthan aasai pazhathukku uLLazhagu.....
  
  F=
  thaamarai poovinil vaNDu vanthu
  thEnaruntha malar moodikkoLLa
  uLLirunthey vaNdu aaduthal pOle
  uLlathil nee inRu Aadukinraai-aadukinRaai mella..
  
  6.
  Nenjathile nee netRu vanthai
  netru muthal ore uravu thanthaai...
  
  noolidai meethoru mEgalai aada
  maalai kanikaL vaadayil vaada
  kaaviri aarena neer vilayaada
  kanni malarkaL thEn mazhaiyaaga
  paathi vizhigal kaathalil mooda
  paalil vizhuntha pazham pOL aada
  nee thara vENdum naan peRa veNdum
  nilavinil aadum nimmathi vENdum
  
  7.
  azhagEy vaa arugEy vaaa
  alaiye vaa thalaivaa vaa..
  aalayak kalasam aathavanaalEy minnuthal pOle minnuthu ingEy..
  
  
  8. orey muRaithaan unnodu pEsippaarthEn
  nee oru thanippiravi
  orEy mayakkam ammamma pothum!pothum! yEn ini maRuppiRavi?
  
  F= vaanam paartha boomiyin mEle
  mazhai ena vizhunthaye
  M=neelam pootha vizhigalinaaley nee enai azhaithaaye
  F= vasanthakkalap pookkaLin mElE vaNdena amarnthaye
  M= amarntha vaNDu paranthuvidamal aasayil aNaithaaye.....
  
  F= pollaa manathil aasai pugunthaal pozhuthum pagaiyaagum
  M= pullanguzhalil kaatru pugunthaal puthu puthu isaiyaagum
  
  9.
  Two ladies exchaning notes (relevant for the banned film FIRE)
  
  A= paayuthu paayuthu kaNNamma
  pathunguthu pathunguthu ponnamma
  saayuthu saayuthu thalaiyamma
  sarasathile oru vagaiyamma
  B= pOguthu pOguthu sinnamma
  ponnna poRanthava thanamma
  aasai varathaa sollamma
  angEy mattum ennamma?
  
  10
  M= maaNika theril maragatha kalasam minnuvathenna enna?
  F= mannan mugam kanavil vanthathu
  manjal nathi udalil vanthathu
  M= raani unthan mEni enna raajaveethi thOttam thAnO?
  F= kELVi kEtta mannan mEni Devan koyil thOtram thanO...
  venpattu mEniyil kaNpadum vElayil mooduthu mElaadai
  M= kanpadum vElayil kaipadumo Enru kalanguthu nooladai...
  idai padum paado sathiraattam
  F= ilakalil moodum kaniyaattam
  M= kannottam
  F= en thOttam...
  then malai mEgangal ponvalai pOttana koonthalil neerada
  M= minnalil mEniyum pinnalil koonythalum mithappathu yaarada?
  puthumazhai pOle neerada
  F= athisaiya nathiyil naanaada
  M= neeyada
  F= aaha thEnoda...
  
  11.
  ENNIraNDu pathinaaru vayaathu..
  
  kaal aLantha nadayinil-En
  kathalaiyum aLanthaaL
  kaalamakaL petra mayil
  iravinile MalarnthaaL...
  
  SutRi naangu suvargaLukkuL
  thookaminri kidanthOm-siRu
  thunbam pOnRa inbathilE
  iruvarumE nadanthOm
  thunmab pOnra inbathilE
  iruvarumE nadanthOm
  
  13.
  thEn mazhayilE maangani nanainthathu
  paal pozhinthathu paruvamum kuLirnthathu
  
  14. Neerodum vaikayile ninraadum meene
  neiyooRum kaanakathil kai kaattum maane
  
  15. Santhana kudathukkulle
  panthukal urunduvanthu vilayaaduthu-sugam vilayaaguthu....
  aaduthu kulunguthu aadayittu mooduthu poazhamO ithu enna pathamO ithu?
  
  
  16.
  Pothumo Intha idam?
  koodumO antha sugam?
  eNNI paarthaal chinna idam
  iruvar koodum nalla idam..
  
  
  F=vanji nenjam vadavum
  manjal mEni vadavum
  M=konjum vaarthai pesavum
  kodi inbam sEravum
  F= thEdum kaikaL thEdumpothu
  thEnum paalum ooRavum
  
  F= koonthal manjam pOdava
  kuLir varaamal paadava
  M=poovai pOle soodavaa
  pOrvayalE moodava
  kathal enraal ennavenru
  kannai moodi kaanava
  F= kannam serthu pEsinaal
  minnal vanthu paarkkumO
  Ullam onraai koodinaal
  veLLam vanthu sERumO
  M=Aasai veLLam pOgumbothu
  Osai konjam ketkumO?
  
  
  Hundreds more available.
  
  
  .
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ pm062-26.spindler.wmich.edu) on: Thu Feb 18 14:43:50 EST 1999
  
  Manisekaran thats an extensive list. But still im still wondering how 'neerodum vaigaiyile'is related to this topic:))
  
  One more great song from Darisanam
  
  LRE: idhu maalai nerathu mayakkam
  pudhu maalai pol udal manakkum
  idhazh mele idhazh moodi
  andha inbam thedudhu enakkum
  
  TMS: idhu kaaladevanin kalakkam
  idhai kaadhal enbadhu vazhakkam
  oru aanum oru pennum
  pera pogum thunbathin thuvakkam
  
  LRE: paniyum nilavum pozhiyum neram
  madiyil saindhal enne
  pasumbaalai pole meniyengum pazhagi parthaal enne
  
  TMS: udalum udalum serum vazhvai
  ulagam marandhaalenne
  dhinam odi aadi oiyum munne
  unmai arindhaal enne
  
  LRE: uravukku mele sugam kidaiyadhu
  pazhagavae thayakkam enne
  
  TMS: idhu ottai veedu onbadhu vaasal
  idharkku mel aasai enne
  
  LRE: munivann manamum mayangum boomi
  boga vaasal thanae
  manam moodi moodi parkkum podhu
  thedum paadhai thanae
  
  TMS: paiyil paduthu noiyil vizhundhaal
  kaadhal kaanal neere
  idhu medu pallam thedum
  ullam podhum jnana thene
  
  LRE: Illaram ketttaal thuravaram pesum
  idhayamae maarividu
  
  TMS: naan vazhndhu partha saindha thennai
  unnai nee maatrividhu
  
  idhu kaala devanin kalakkam
  
  
  
• From: rameshb (@ interlock.itthartford.com) on: Thu Feb 18 15:01:13 EST 1999
  
  Appetizer:
  
  Indeed, those who can get kavingar's purport,
  they love his sensational verses
  
  And those who feel it's beyond their ken, they get vali's viagra verses.
  
  So what's the bottomline ?
  
  "If music be the food of love, play on"
  
  
• From: Ragapriyan (@ 202.54.37.18) on: Thu Feb 18 21:30:55 EST 1999
  
  Ramki:
  kizhavanukkE aasai varum and munivanukkE
  aasai varum are not impossible! (In fact,
  knowing our modern day saamiyaars and munivars, I
  think the latter is totally ordinary!) peNgaLukkE
  aasai varum is the impossible! Anyway, mine
  is just an attempt to explain what the kavinjar
  probably had in mind.
  
  Do you recall these lines from the song, kaN
  padumE, piRar kaN padumE of Kathirundha Kangal..
  
  mangai un azhagai maadhar kaNdaalum
  mayangiduvaar konja nEram
  
  Kavinjar excels in putting these kinds of things
  in poetic style, in a subtle way. See the
  following lines from eNNiranDu padhinaaRu vayadhu
  of Annai Illam...
  
  sutri naangu suvargaLukkuL
  thookkamindri kidandhOm
  siRu thunbam pOndra inbaththilE
  iruvarumE nadandhOm
  
  In an interview on SUN TV last year, VM talked
  in length, appreciating these lines of Kannadhasan.
  
  Continuing along Manisekaran's inputs, here is
  a song from the movie, Paadhukaappu. The song
  looks like a nice Barathanatyam song (MSV has
  put in a very nice classical tune), but the
  poertic words is all about something else,
  though it has Murugan, Kumaran and Valli all over..
  
  varach cholladi
  andhi maalaithanil avanai varachcholladi
  en vaayaara oru muththam naanaaga thara vENdum
  varachcholladi
  
  dheivaanai pOlennai ninaiththaalenna
  en sendhooram karaindhOda aNaiththaalenna
  kaiyOdu kaikonjam kalandhaalenna
  naan kalyaaNa sugam yaavum aRindhaalenna
  
  malaikkOvil kumarEsan aRiyaadhadhaa
  en madiyenna kadhai solla theriyaadhadhaa
  kalaikkOvil avan kaaNa mudiyaadhadhaa
  adhu kanivaanadhaa konjam padhamaanadhaa
  
  vandhaanai sElaiyodu mundhaanai
  kaadhalodu kaNdaanai thEnaruvi koNdaanai
  bakthi chuvaiyudan thiththithoru idhazh
  muththuth tharumena nindraanai
  
  vaLLik kuRamagaL aLLip parugida
  paLLith thalam varai sendraanai
  muruganai kumaranai kandhanai vElanai
  vasantham niRaindhu mayangum iravil
  maanivaL aanandha saalaikku
  varachcholladi...
  
  
  
• From: cram (@ 206.103.12.102) on: Fri Feb 19 05:32:33 EST 1999
  
  there are plenty of tamil songs with a subtle sexual undercurrent running throughout. a closer look at many of the lyrics and things become very clear and the poet's imagination and mastery over words take ur breath away.
  
  don't know if Kannadaasan wrote these, but anyway:
  
  "sittukkuruvi muththam koduththu
  sErnthida kandEnE
  sevvaanam kadalilinilE
  kalandhida kandEne"
  
  "anubavam puthumai
  avanidam kandEn
  annaaLil illaatha
  pollaatha eNNangaLe
  ponnaana kai pattu
  puNNaana kannangaLe"
  
  more to come
  
  
  

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