Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.
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- From: SORNAM K MURTHY (@ 203.199.240.98)
on: Wed Oct 16 15:54:27 EDT 2002
Dear Friends:
Thanks for your reply to my view.
I have my explanation to the question or doubt raised by MusicisLife. Actually I wanted to convey that some films which has the routine story and have no scope for doing any wonder or great thing in music or some time even in bgm. But among all MDs in TFM, only Ilaiyaraja can give the better life to such Film through BGM, comparing with any one. We can give so many examples for such a kind of movies.
Only on this basis, I have expressed that actually any film will get the music what it deserves. If any one says that IR is not committed or sincere for his work (so called non professionalism), definitely it is wrong.
I do not know whether any one watch the program of Madhan's Thiraipaarvai in Vijay TV in which the Review for Devan Film was done. The same question raised by Madhan that why this film need music from IR? like this.
I mean to say only that. Not that IR will decide the fate of any film or he him self decides that any particular film is going to be a crap even before he starts scoring for the film.
This man lives his entire life only for music and he is not interested to divert his life anything else in this world. With out professionalism it is very difficult to continue in any profession for such a long period and that too in Music profession with so many barriers( such as cultural changes )in today's world.
Thanks.
- From: vimal (@ 143.182.124.4)
on: Wed Oct 16 19:18:54 EDT 2002
As a HCIRF, I should say that our Thalaivar's music is soooo boring these days. Thalaivar needs to majorly overhaul his approach. I hate his usage of synth. Not only Thalaivar's music, but the whole TFM is dead now.
- From: kiru (@ 192.138.150.249)
on: Wed Oct 16 19:26:51 EDT 2002
Folks..even I am disappointed but go easy on the Maestro. I have some friends who meet with him often, let me try to find out the background about this album. Seems like it was rushed through the production process. The Maestro himself was excited about kochu kochu santhoshangal but many of our friends circle had not heard it by then and we could not provide some appreciation to him at that point. I hate to just tell him only when we are disappointed. But surely, I need to talk to my friends and find out whats going on.
- From: archivist (@ 64.12.96.72)
on: Wed Oct 16 19:50:25 EDT 2002
I feel that Maestro is reserving his best ideas for non-film stuff and the film songs are just time pass to keep his fans who will be satisfied with whatevert he serves. Actually, IR can be more experimental with the scope that he has right now, instead the tunes seem very doordarshan type mellisai. that is what is a little put off, but hey i can take anything that comes from IR, because even in the most stupid tunes there are a lot of vishayangal
- From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.51)
on: Wed Oct 16 20:11:45 EDT 2002
How is Ramana audio sales?Can somebody tell me about this.Ramana is not a bad album.Very fresh tunes.Nice songs.Raja sir know what he is doing.All the best Raja.Keep it up......!!!!!!!!
- From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232)
on: Wed Oct 16 21:17:25 EDT 2002
NagaS, once you mentioned your disappointment, every HCIRF seems to say that this a ordinary album and started pouring soga esai. Udane ellarum same side goal podaranga. How come, no tomatoes are not thrown by ARR fans(five in number).
- From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232)
on: Wed Oct 16 21:18:18 EDT 2002
oops.. >> no tomatoes are thrown by ARR fans(five in number).
- From: purv (@ 205.231.147.49)
on: Wed Oct 16 21:24:56 EDT 2002
I've decided, after my second listening, to give Ramana a higher rating. I'd now say it deserves a 6.5/10. I'd say the songs presented in this album are the kind that grow on you.
- From: purv (@ 205.231.147.49)
on: Wed Oct 16 21:29:32 EDT 2002
Prabhu,
I wanted to reply to your posting, but the thread just had to be cut off! I heard 'Ramanaa' at Thaalam.com. Very interesting site-- there is a huge collection of songs, some of which you couldn't find at major music sites such as raaga.com or musicindiaonline.com. Visit it if you can.
- From: Kick out KarthikRaja (@ 12.239.125.16)
on: Wed Oct 16 22:41:53 EDT 2002
IR should stop KR messing up with all his tunes with the lousy arrangements, making the string volume very low and in essence taking away the IR touch.
- From: STS (@ 12.240.77.242)
on: Wed Oct 16 23:11:31 EDT 2002
I don't intent to jump my guns here on any individual but let's wait, think a second before pouring our thoughts here.
EMV is the last one probably everyone is listening to now and it has 3 gems (Enna Solli, Unnai Thedi, Rottoram) and has few songs to appeal to masses (folk and western). Well it is one of the best albums I heard in the recent past and I do listen all MDs.
I do agree with Devan but it had one Hariharan's gem. Apart from that it was a disappointment but what is that movie to inspire IR.
Talking about Ramanaa may be too early listening to real audio music from net. Tell me guys, which album(s) you are comparing this one against? Kaathal Virus??
Yes, Every one cried foul when Kaasi was released. I can post you 1000 links which uttered all kinds of nonsense and that broke the record in sales. You guys will repent your words after 2 months about an album. Pls give it a patient learning. I am not sure why people expects to listen to ARR album 100 times to 'grow' on you but expecting a sudden impact from a IR song. To me it feels good even the first attempt (latest one is EMV).
- From: S.P MAHENDRAN (@ 161.139.38.232)
on: Thu Oct 17 04:23:21 EDT 2002
Nice said my friend.Raja is always the best ever was and best ever will be.When we hear Ramana songs there is something new.Wait untill the movie released.I think this movie very nice one lah.
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Thu Oct 17 06:50:38 EDT 2002
>>>no tomatoes are thrown by ARR fans(
That's natural. By this time you should have realised what sort of people we are.
>>>five in number).
Do you mean we are just five? ....are you kidding.
- From: vel (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Thu Oct 17 09:20:58 EDT 2002
:-) Suresh,
Are you now fully convinced that IR has turned truely "unprofessional"? That comment from you left me gasping, considering the fact that the ARR Camp in this discussion forum hold "you & Nagas" to be totally balanced in their view point.
Let me put it this way...agreed, no one is holding IR at gun point to score music for DEVAN or RAMANA and of course he is not getting paid any lesser to compose in such movies..but is it not true then, by your own logic, that "IR is not holding OSCAR RAVICHANDRAN at gun point", nor is he "coming at a cheaper economical market price" either. It is producer's wish to select an MD and his calculations that IR deserves Rs.10 lakh for a movie. PERIOD. OSCAR RAVICHANDRAN had a choice right? Did anyone hypnotise him to use IR?
It is totally uncalled for to name "IR" as unprofessional. "Music is my life, not my job" is what IR has said. If a song is not appealing to you or me, we may just leave it at that. Seemingly mundane tunes like "PUDHU MAPILLAIKKU" from aboorva sahodharargal have sent music experts mad, for they are amazed at the arrangements & chord progressions and what not.
IR, ARR and MSV...each these musicians stand as a symbol of "dedication" to music than the cliche of "professionalism" to music. And music making is an art that is better approached through dedication rather than business-like professionalism.
All IMVHO.
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 208.237.178.229)
on: Thu Oct 17 09:37:00 EDT 2002
Sornam,
My point of view though is, Why is Gnani not taking vested interest in these movies when competition is so high to give good music and stay with his reputation of one of the best in TFM atleast the long-standing one.
Now again i dont know anything regarding Kaasi, Azhagi coz i have not seen them or heard the songs. But Ramana was not upto the mark as i consider it. May be it'll fit the movie, but with vijayakanth in the lead, who is not my interesting hero, i would dare to go to that movie, so what has happened is i have lost the Gnani in the midst.
Again i say Gnani should be Gnani, no comprosmise, if he compromises, then he does compromise professionalism or his Ego is taking over the better of him.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Thu Oct 17 09:42:21 EDT 2002
DIGRESSION
"IR, ARR and MSV...each these musicians stand as a symbol of 'dedication' to music than the cliche of 'professionalism' to music. And music making is an art that is better approached through dedication rather than business-like professionalism"....
vel, i guess u meant "devotion" rather than mearely saying "dedication". If that is the case, IMHO, I feel that ARR's approach is more a professional approach than a "devotional" one. By saying professional, i don't want to discredit the "dedication" he has to his music. For being "business-like professional" also, a complete dedication is needed to be very successful and ARR is impeccable in that. "Devotional" is something extra in being professional which I feel is ARR is not into that.
Let me stop here and not digress to far from the topic being discussed now.
END DIGRESSION
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Thu Oct 17 09:44:16 EDT 2002
MusicIsLife, i agree with you in this.
- From: vel (@ 202.88.152.159)
on: Thu Oct 17 10:03:00 EDT 2002
:-) Kupps,
I didnt mean devotion. I meant dedication. Now read my post again.
- From: Raji (@ 203.166.96.235)
on: Thu Oct 17 10:12:37 EDT 2002
Honestly Ramana songs are not that good. Some of them are very ordinary. But "Vana Ville" song was superp like anything. Puspavaam kuppusamy's song is the least preferred song. This album seems to be bad because we have very high expectation on IRs'movies. Compare to some other MD's songs this is outstanding.(We always say songs are nice when they are catchy songs. Most of us don't research on their composition).Hope for the best in the future.
Raji
- From: Rags (@ 138.88.21.149)
on: Thu Oct 17 11:01:41 EDT 2002
Rightly Said. "Vaana Ville" Song is the real pick of the album. And, the composition for "Vennilavin Perrai" is kinda complex but good to hear. The Unni Krishnan Song is an usual Fast Melody like the one in Kadhalukku Mariyadhai, Raman Abdullah. The pathos song in this film is nowhere to the ones like "Un Kutuma" and "Engey Sellum". No comments on the Pushpavanam Kuppusmay Song. The song is kiddish.
Rags
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