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Whatever happened to Illayaraja's symphony?

Topic started by Swaminathan N (@ infosys.inf.com) on Wed May 14 15:38:06 EDT 1997.
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• From: yaaro (@ 172.179.66.115) on: Thu Jan 9 06:53:04 EST 2003
  
  oops-soory for the triple postings.
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 172.179.66.115) on: Thu Jan 9 07:01:08 EST 2003
  
  http://webhome.idirect.com/~rlevy/film.html
  http://us.imdb.com/Name?Scott,%20John%20(I)
  happy now AY that ,he is more than just ,in your words,//He is a conductor of orchetra..That's it....There are many like him...And that is my claim...and he just happens to work for IR on his symphony and he was paid for that..that's it.... //
  My only wish is that I am not there to see your face when You read this and go thru the links...pity!
  
  
• From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138) on: Thu Jan 9 07:27:02 EST 2003
  
  "Can some body find other links contributiona and records of the JC about whom me, you and IR are talking about. If he is such a great man then we have to get his details quite easily ..Isn't it?"
  
  "Only one and it generally talks about the person. If he is such a great person, then there will be many site attributing to him and his achievenment."
  
  
  Ok then, if you want us to take you seriously with all these ramblings & proof u're not a complete moron, then show us:
  
  who you know of when it comes to a biggie contemporary composer/s whether in classical music or in movies(with justification why you think he/she is famous).
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152) on: Thu Jan 9 08:14:00 EST 2003
  
  Yaaro
  
  But the thread head is truly alive even after full five years.And as WN pointed out we will be completing full 10 years shortly since the gala celebration.
  
  How long you are going to submit peripheral answers like proving John scott s credentials,British taste etc....
  
  Why can t it be released as even a musical album without branding it as Symphony?I know things are not that simple but i feel this question and the mystery are going to outlive the persons concerned.
  
  
• From: Jeera (@ 206.175.176.2) on: Thu Jan 9 13:04:38 EST 2003
  
  Yaaro/Ambleen
  
  Let us hear out AY & OISG fully.
  
  So guys, what is your point?.
  
  1. Are you saying IR never composed a symphony?
  
  2. Are you saying IR just composed some music and called it a syumphony and had it conducted by somebody for money (as if others do it for the art)?
  
  3. Are you saying that since its is five years since his symphony has been composed and it has not released - it is worthless?.
  
  4. And even assuming it is worthless (according to you) , IR fans should not discuss it in this forum?
  
  5. Are you guys just posting something to getIR fans irritated?. (You know, like AY says Tit-for Tat)?.
  
  Please spell out clearly what exactly is the point of your discussing ?.
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 195.93.50.7) on: Thu Jan 9 16:29:40 EST 2003
  
  OISG,
  I am surprised that someone who is an MSV fan can support such immature ramblings.
  //From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Wed Jan 8 03:07:53 EST 2003
  https://www.guildmusic.com/artists/scottj.htm
  One more link to this person...(Is this the one you are talking about..) //-this posting is exactly where Are yaar lost the plot completely-he thought he was acting smart and put a ?google search for john scott-which must have thrown up a million links-he clicks thru a few and decides john scott is a good for nothing.In WCM,being a conductor is no joke-I am surprised he bracketed John scott with the likes of gangai amaran and the likes we see in music shows back home waving their hands up and down!
  Being a conductor is very difficult-just a step below being the actual composer-that is why the likes of karajan,zubin mehta are held in such high esteem.
  
  //AFAIK he is no more than a paid orchestra conductor...//-AFAIK,AY has lost the plot completely .and going thru your postings OISG,you too.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Vitamin K (@ 216.65.193.130) on: Thu Jan 9 18:40:53 EST 2003
  
  Maybe AY mistaken John Scott as a bus conductor :-) .....
  
  
• From: CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE - WILL WRITE THIRD RATE POEMS (@ 205.188.208.37) on: Thu Jan 9 22:59:52 EST 2003
  
  I WANT MY SYMPHONY
  
  - LYRICAL PLEA TO THE MAESTRO
  
  
  Today yet another day
  woke up in the mornin
  around ses o clock
  as usual giving dawn
  a early positive look.
  
  Today I hope ever since 1993
  each single day to hear
  money for nothin, chicks
  for free - no not that, or
  i want my color TV -
  yes that, to break it
  to me the gates of
  Symphony No.1 Absolute
  is now thrown
  open by Dr. Ilayaraaja,
  could bring the listener
  to final frontier
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Jan 10 05:22:50 EST 2003
  
  //I am not here to pass judgement over JS's knowledge. //-you exactly did this with this statement-
  //If he is such a great person, then there will be many site attributing to him and his achievenment. //
  
  Well ...what I asked there as a question is a common sence one...I clicked many links in google as what I got is one or two about a composer.
  
  Yaaro..I will see the link that you have posted....but you quoted some thing above as a testimony statement saying.. "35 years of musical...of JS" some thing like that...well if I take that statement alone...it says he is quite old to have that much experience...Now tell me...is he one and the only one like that...well try to understand what i mean here...for more that 10 years you people are holding one letter of JS and repeatedly posting it in 100s of thread and saying this is what he said...did he say any thing totally supporting the symphony as a flawless composition. If you read thru the letter itself you will find that he mentions about the critics and their critisism...can you vouch to me that all the critics mentioned by JS in one solitary letter are less musically literate that JS is or IR is....
  
  Good that you are not to see my face...you will be thoroughly disappointed to not see what you expected...well Pounds cost a hell of a lot here..Don't waste your money.
  
  And for one more try..let me see whether you people can shun personal attack atleast now.....well what bothers me....haan?
  
  Jeera..I am comming to your question.
  
  >>>1. Are you saying IR never composed a symphony?
  No...I did not say that.
  
  >>>2. Are you saying IR just composed some music and called it a syumphony and had it conducted by somebody for money (as if others do it for the art)?
  No IR composed symphony only according to him..Probably it did not turn out to be like that..That's what some critics who know about that seem to say..according to the orchestra conductor Mr. JS.
  
  >>>3. Are you saying that since its is five years since his symphony has been composed and it has not released - it is worthless?.
  
  No never..Actually it is almost 10 years from then....But atleast now he should release it....in these TEN years he should have made rightful corrections to it to make it more authentic symphony.
  
  >>>4. And even assuming it is worthless (according to you) , IR fans should not discuss it in this forum?
  I did not say that...see my privious question.
  Well IR fans discussing it...they can...not quote it every time as even they have not heard it any time in their life...
  
  >>>>5. Are you guys just posting something to getIR fans irritated?. (You know, like AY says Tit-for Tat)?.
  Not this time...
  But irritations are initiated by you poeople..I just respond in my way...then too no PA and no IR bashing (as far as possible).
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: vch (@ 61.11.82.146) on: Fri Jan 10 06:17:29 EST 2003
  
  Are Yaar,
  I've been observing ur postings for sometime and have found out u r nothing but an
  ARR fanatic.I don't say u shouldn't be one but
  why do u enter in threads regarding IR and post
  all nonsense.Get lost and leave us IR fans to
  discuss about IR.U say Kadhal Virus is a gr8
  album.That clearly reveals what a bad musical taste u have got and the height of stupidity is
  that u r comparing it with Leysa Leysa which is
  miles ahead.
  And u called my post as vazhisal in the best movies thread which is still a puzzle for me.
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Fri Jan 10 07:35:09 EST 2003
  
  >>>And u called my post as vazhisal in the best movies thread which is still a puzzle for me.
  
  That's true and I read you explanation that it was a joke..well then I take back my comment.
  
  LL miles ahaead of KV....?Is it?
  >>>That clearly reveals what a bad musical taste u have got and the height of stupidity
  I now know whay your taste is...well...I don't want to waste time with you and anyway...I don't redicule your taste....
  
  >>>why do u enter in threads regarding IR and post
  all nonsense
  Unga katchiya indha kelvi kelungo man...
  Refute my argument...then lets say...and try to do it with out PA..pakkalaam.
  
  
• From: Raji (@ 63.60.233.15) on: Fri Jan 10 07:42:18 EST 2003
  
  vch
  Nai vaalai nimirtha mudiyathu. Pannikku kuppaithan vazhkkai. Don't worry. Just ignore him. These fanatics will never go away. Only thing we can do is ignore them
  Raji
  
  
• From: ganjinx (@ 167.203.48.180) on: Fri Jan 10 18:15:41 EST 2003
  
  more info about John Scott from imdb.com
  http://us.imdb.com/Name?Scott,+John+(I)
  
  and the interesting aspect is , checked his awards and nominations
  http://us.imdb.com/Pawards?Scott,%20John%20(I)
  
  Nominated for WORST Musical Score .. that's really funny
  
  
• From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Fri Jan 10 20:12:32 EST 2003
  
  >>>>> Nai vaalai nimirtha mudiyathu. Pannikku kuppaithan vazhkkai. Don't worry. Just ignore him. These fanatics will never go away. Only thing we can do is ignore them
  
  I could not have described IR fans better than this!
  
  
• From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67) on: Sat Jan 11 03:37:30 EST 2003
  
  >>>Nai vaalai nimirtha mudiyathu. Pannikku kuppaithan vazhkkai.
  
  Idhu therinjum yen naan ungaloda argue poanrenna...just a alaadhi nambikkai dhaan that I can defy nature and do what you have said as impossible.
  
  Never mind I will keep trying....
  
  
• From: WN (@ 203.24.100.137) on: Sat Jan 11 04:01:19 EST 2003
  
  "for you info ALW is widely disliked in UK -mainly for his musicals which are fit only for tourists.hehehe..."
  
  Indeed. In fact ALW is not as popular as John Scott in UK. Poor guy.
  
  
• From: Vijay (@ 203.200.33.65) on: Sat Jan 11 04:28:08 EST 2003
  
  Could someone tell me, where I could here IR's symphony ... I haven't heard them, and would like to.
  
  

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