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Shankar-Ehsan-Loy !

Topic started by cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on Sun Jun 24 00:21:11 EDT 2001.
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Shankar-Ehsan-Loy...maybe the only other MD with Bollywood roots also composing for TF....I was listening to their "Dil Chahta Hai"..except for the title track, all the other songs seem to meander around...but they are the only ones around in Bollywood who give a original techno touch to their music apart from ARR.

"Aalavandhaan" is their next big TF release...would like to hear your opinions on this trio.

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• From: UV (@ 134.113.201.69) on: Thu Aug 23 12:05:46 EDT 2001
  
  correction he did his computer science from bombay university and not IIT
  
  
• From: Guru (Musician) (@ 203.106.176.142) on: Thu Aug 23 13:42:46 EDT 2001
  
  Guys check thiz out :http://www.aalavandaan.com
  wow ! the page is preety hot....but under construction
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.168.237) on: Thu Aug 23 14:51:12 EDT 2001
  
  Bharath
  
  IR's house is in a small street off North Usman Road, a bit further down the ARR Complex towards the Kodambakkam bridge. I stay behind the ARR complex and have travelled down these streets in my TVS Champ and one day ran into Karthik Raja's Red Sports car as it was coming out of the gate....I had to brake and wait...I think YSR was standing outside..my mind was completely on a deadline and I was rushing to work...so it didnt strike me immediately..only after I crossed them did I realise ! Well..nostalgia..sigh !
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Thu Aug 23 15:23:28 EDT 2001
  
  Digression Mania:
  
  //"I stay behind the ARR complex and have travelled down these "//
  
  is the place u stayed where the roads perpendicular to usman road lead to that railway crossing road to rangarajapuram!
  
  so is IR's house between ARR complex and Vivek & Co.
  
  I know the place like The bak of my hand. I stayed behind lalitha jewellery though adjacent to saradha vidhyalaya and r.k mission hostel.
  
  
  //"Well..nostalgia..sigh !"//
  
  u bet! huh!
  
  
• From: Trend who doesn't know anything abt Madras (@ 216.68.113.239) on: Thu Aug 23 15:35:20 EDT 2001
  
  Digression mania +1:
  
  "IR's house between ARR complex and Vivek & Co"
  What does this ARR stand for?Hope it's not A R Rahman. :-)
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Thu Aug 23 15:45:02 EDT 2001
  
  Thanks Srini. BTW, it seems chalaku chalakku sElai is also chakravAgam..can you show me how the lyrics map to the notes ?
  
  
• From: Missing The singara Chennai Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Thu Aug 23 15:49:26 EDT 2001
  
  !(Madrasi) Trend,
  
  ARR complex is the ARR sugantha pakku kadai factory.
  
  ARR enbathu moondru ezhuthu
  athu thaambola ulagathin thani ezhuthu
  (now do u remember)
  
  ARR enbathu moondru ezhuthu
  athu tamizh isai ulagin thani(orey) ezhuthu
  (enakku kozhuppu vambu thaan :-) )
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.130) on: Thu Aug 23 16:04:08 EDT 2001
  
  Bharath LOL !
  
  Trend, quite a coincidence right ?
  
  Yes...IR's house is in a quite corner in one of those streets very near Vivek and Co..
  Yes Bharath...I lived in an apartment very close to the Railway crossing gate...leading to Rangarajapuram ! Seems we have been staying very close !!!
  
  
• From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.230) on: Thu Aug 23 16:13:40 EDT 2001
  
  Digression fever:
  cosmician,yes it is.:-)
  Bharath,
  
  ARR paakku?!Does it also have:
  Paakku ulagil raaja magudam ARR sugandha paakku.
  (reusing my earlier posting)
  Isai ulagil raaja magudam ARR cinema paattu.:-)
  
  Before I get pelted by stones, naan joot!
  
  
  
• From: yaaro (@ 172.190.148.93) on: Thu Aug 23 16:39:59 EDT 2001
  
  it should be
  Paakku ulagil raaja magudam Rojaa paakku.
  (Isai ulagil raaja magudam Raaja paattu.)
  IEI:-)
  
  
  
• From: Veerappan(cinema not sandanam) Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Thu Aug 23 17:05:40 EDT 2001
  
  "sabash" sariyana potti!
  
  ARR kao kujan jao (etho hindi advt appa namakku yenga correct spelling ellam)
  
  ARR pattu! ka jawab nahin!
  
  Hindikku poiduvom nangellam! apporam ungalaala onnume panna mudiyaathu!
  
  Shankar mahadevan intha site'a paatharna rattha kaneer viduvaar!
  
  
• From: rf (@ 205.188.197.188) on: Thu Aug 23 17:08:33 EDT 2001
  
  Another concept development music in Aaalavandhan, out of 100 unconventional songs 2 songs stand out. ARR the pioneer in this. Good for music trends. we need change, we need fresh breathless of air... all these composers including and since ARR brings to bear upon TFM lovers in general the contribution to everlasting music by even a not so popular a composer as Chandra Bose.... Long Live ex TFM and Let Live new TFM... what else to say.... I am breathless here
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Aug 23 23:47:36 EDT 2001
  
  hey didnt anybody see ambleen's post? SEL seems genuinely inspired by Jerry Goldsmith's score for the 'Link' (1986) starring Elizabeth Shue and directed by Richard Franklin.
  
  Another coincidence apart from the inspiration - Link is about an eccentric primatologist experimenting with chimpanzees in a remote English coastal house. One of the chimps, Link initially is very friendly but becomes very aggressive and literally has Shue in house arrest, the reason for which is explained in the end.
  
  Does Abhay get to keep Raveena under house arrest kinda situation? If we go by the promos, I suppose so (based ona shot where Abhay takes a knife-throw at Raveena which is aimed to stop her from getting out of the room!).
  
  One more global inspiration by Kamal after the scores of movies he has already been inspired. Surprisingly SEL also have gone into the inspiration loop assuming that not many people would find the Jerry Goldsmith link 'cos that was way back in 1986!
  
  Dont forget to listen to the Kamal version from Raaga (the one with Kamal and Nandhini - listen to the part after Kamal's ramblings and where the actual music starts) and Jerry's score for the link as mentioned by ambleen earlier (after the initial eerie rhythms end and the music starts)...here's the link again!
  
  http://home.t-online.de/home/tom-sami/link.ram
  
  
  
• From: badri (@ 202.9.148.44) on: Fri Aug 24 01:04:44 EDT 2001
  
  lot of news abt IR'S house,its there in murugesan
  street,that is perpendicular to arr complex,every thursday,i do go thru his street,after worshiping
  sri ragavendra temple nearby
  
  
• From: Krish (@ 209.110.182.92) on: Fri Aug 24 16:16:28 EDT 2001
  
  Decent album...
  
  Though I do think that they got some inspiration for "Kadavul Paadhi" from "Be Prepared" the Lion King song... Though some great singing effort on Kamal's part. And some amazing singing effort on Shankar's part in the title song. Other than that the songs sound different from the norm but average...
  
  
• From: AV (@ 24.15.81.189) on: Sat Aug 25 13:00:54 EDT 2001
  
  I have a listened to this album twice now.
  
  *Hype* is the key word here. Sparring africa and SM song others are pedestrian.
  
  Kamal has to learn from hey ram, do not over hype as it can affect adversely the gains of the movie.
  
  To equate SEL to IR and ARR is ludicrous. I do not have a problem with Kamal-the actor, however I do not trust Kamal-The marketing agent.
  
  IMO, Majnu is a more decent effort than Alavandhan.
  
  
• From: S T S (@ 66.42.0.17) on: Sat Aug 25 15:09:15 EDT 2001
  
  For Aalavandhaan mp3 songs.
  http://www.tamilmp3world.com
  
  
• From: jagdeesh (@ 63.193.193.236) on: Sun Aug 26 03:37:02 EDT 2001
  
  most hyped music. except for the african mumbo jumbo (which transends to arabian music in the end) the rest are mediocre. Narshimha and majnu are much better. these are my opinions
  
  
• From: Prahalad (@ 128.101.140.18) on: Mon Aug 27 17:30:21 EDT 2001
  
  well, 3 good songs, 2 poems, and 1 below average song... that sums up aalavandaan... the theme music is simply superb-the best in recent times according to me... unnazhagukku is nice listening to and africa kattupuli has some interesting sounds thrown in esp in the interludes. the other kamal song siri siri tests my patience. i wonder if this was kamal's idea!-how boring?
  
  
• From: sgmuser (@ 202.156.2.248) on: Tue Aug 28 06:03:06 EDT 2001
  
  after listening to the album aalavandhan almost 3 or 4 times...i will say its a good fresh music for tamil. i cannot say creativity is there in the composition. esp the title song is a copy of madonna's latest album "MUSIC"'s title song Music itself. atleast the style is copied. the song kadavul paathi's music score is done in arabic or lebanese style. but its going to be a real commercial hit. no doubt.
  
  
• From: Saketh@Atlanta (@ 130.207.33.26) on: Tue Aug 28 17:45:34 EDT 2001
  
  Alavandhan sounds different. May be, I was a little predisposed not to dismiss Shankar & Co. so soon. Will comment after further listening.
  
  But, a similar effort from ARR would have invited widespread criticism... "ARR is going down..."
  
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Aug 28 23:22:47 EDT 2001
  
  I think the initial reviews to Aalavanthaan/ Abhay has been pathetic. Look at the latest Kumudam's review and Rediff's review! Wonder what those 200,000 people think now that they got the cassetes in the first 8 hours of its release! :-)
  
  
• From: Ehsaan Noorani (@ 203.197.52.202) on: Fri Aug 31 05:06:56 EDT 2001
  
  Hi guys nice to read all the responses here my name is Ehsaan and I am Shankar and Loy's partner. You have to understand that alavandhan doesnt really adhere to the typical tamil or hindi film soundtrack with 3 love songs and a few item songs. For that reason the film is not your typical film either. It is an intense action film even fitting in these songs has been difficult as the film can even do without songs.
  . I gues this doenst fit into the cliched film soundtrack as the film is not your regular kind of film with all the singing dancing etc.
  It's more cinematic music with tunes like Kadavul Paadhi being more like a narrative of Abhay's character. The title song Abhay is a background song / score for an intense car chase. So in reality we have composed songs which go with an action film as opposed to doing so called ' item ' songs where the hero goes to a nightclub and falls in love with a girl or suddenly gets ' beamed ' to Switzerland for a ballad. I guess all of you have to finally watch the film to see how the music fits in.Teh song Siri is very funny when u watch KamalHassan performing all his pranks on screen.Compsong music for a film is interpretting the directors vision and in this case alsi Kamalsirs vision.We do not want to be compared to Illyaraja or To ARR 2 musicians for whome we have the utmost repsect. I'd say look at the soundtrack for the genre of film it has been composed for.If you hear a Hinid soundtrack of ours for a film called Shool it is very much in the same cinematic vein where a film has to have the minimum of pure entertainer songs to do justice to the script and the screenplay.
  Thanks anyway it is good to hear criticism of your work but eventually when we do a score which has all the ingredients like love songs etc i guess you will see another side of us.
  Take care
  Regards
  Ehsaan
  for Shankar , Ehsaan , Loy
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.11.114) on: Fri Aug 31 07:07:20 EDT 2001
  
  oh, Ehsaan in this thread?? Really???
  
  

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