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IR's new albums!

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

Check the IR reviews page

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• From: Sai (@ 199.72.89.253) on: Tue Aug 8 10:10:27 EDT 2000
  
  Another bit of news about Bharathy...
  
  http://www.the-week.com/20aug13/enter.htm
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 129.188.33.221) on: Tue Aug 8 11:46:06 EDT 2000
  
  There are some mistakes in the article. It mentions that Rajasekaran thought of this
  idea to make a film on Bharathy while he
  was a collector of Tiruchi. Actually
  it was Tiruchur.
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 129.188.33.221) on: Tue Aug 8 11:46:16 EDT 2000
  
  There are some mistakes in the article. It mentions that Rajasekaran thought of this
  idea to make a film on Bharathy while he
  was the collector of Tiruchi. Actually
  it was Tiruchur.
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 203.199.65.148) on: Tue Aug 8 12:22:19 EDT 2000
  
  I REPEAT!
  Hello www, (also known as Ottawa Tamil Radio)!
  I can't fathom why you are posting links that are irrelevant to this thread?
  First it was Doubles, then Kuberan and now Maayi (Mazhi???)! What's up?
  This is a thread on Ilayaraja's new releases.
  
  
  
• From: Vem (@ 207.165.237.206) on: Tue Aug 8 14:12:02 EDT 2000
  
  great that review about IR's music has been appreciated in Bharathy. But how is his music in Illayavan. can anyone please review about IR's music in Illayavan.
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ 208.28.2.2) on: Tue Aug 8 15:58:54 EDT 2000
  
  I really liked IRs "Ilayavan". It has 4 (out of 5) excellent songs.
  
  The best song IMO is "Nilavin Amudhu" by Unnikrishnan and Bhavadha. It's a great composition beautifully orchestrated and well sung.
  
  The next best is "Vatta Nilave" by SPB and Swarnalatha, a lilting composition. The composition really brings to life the mood od the song. I don't think anyone else other than SPB could do justice to the song. I'm not a big fan of swarnalatha.
  
  Another great number is "En Idhayam" by Unnikrishnan and Chithra. Great combo of mridhangam and the more modren instruments for orchestration beautifully blended. An addictive number.
  
  Another excellent solo by SPB is "En Jeevanin". Unique composition especially the pallavi building to a crescendo. It is a soulful rendition - and once again SPB does it better than anyone else can. He makes the job so easy for the actor...all the actor needs to do is show up because SPB demonstrates such emotion in the song.
  
  The last song by Mano is OK.
  
  Overall, a great album for the 4 songs mentioned above.
  
  
  
• From: IR_Fan (@ 160.81.7.18) on: Tue Aug 8 17:02:48 EDT 2000
  
  I read thro this thread...
  Everybody seems to appreciate IR's music...
  Frankly, despite being a Ilaiyaraaja fan(atic) i feel IR has not done justice to this film...
  
  "Nirpathuvae nadappathuvae" sounds more like a "medai naadagam" song . Though people might argue that its set to Bharathi's times, i feel that this song except for the pallavi is lacking jeevan..
  Same is the case with "Kelada" by Rajkumar Bharathy..
  Thers some consolation in Bombay Jayashree's "Ninai charan" though..
  The best song in the album could easily be picked as "Mayil Pola" by Bhavtharini..lovely folk..
  
  i've not heard the other songs...
  But for IR's name i don't think "Bharathi" is worth a buy.
  
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ 136.182.2.221) on: Tue Aug 8 17:50:33 EDT 2000
  
  To all those DFers who say "excellent songs", "vintage IR" and all that stuff about his recent songs,
  I wonder whether you actually say so because :
  * you don't hear the songs by any other MD of today, or
  * you are overjoyed and overcome by nostalgia when you come across IR using some instruments/orchestration that is a rarity these days, or
  * you are overwhelmed when you come across an IR song with good recording, or
  * you have'nt heard his songs of the 70s and 80s to know what vintage stuff is and what excellent means (even if they did'nt have the recording quality of today), or
  * you are so taken by the person thanks to his music a few years ago, that you refuse to believe/accept that he is'nt delivering that quality anymore, or
  * you are plain thankful that the genius of the 80s still scores music at all, or
  * you actually liked the song.
  
  Well, I for one, can hardly find his songs to be anywhere near what he composed in the 70s and 80s. Call it mental block, call it nostalgia, call it whatever you want, but I just can't call his songs of today anywhere near "vintage" stuff. True, there are surprises like "Guru" once in a while, but they have become very few and far between.
  
  Tell me, am I missing something here ?
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 207.43.195.201) on: Tue Aug 8 18:01:29 EDT 2000
  
  Viswa: Your post automatically qualifies you for being branded an "ARR Fan". You will keep this honorary (NOT honorable) title until you post questioning ARR's talents. In which case you will be dragged into the residual category - YES! Deva Fan!:-)
  
  Welcome to the sparring!
  
  
• From: IRR_Fan (@ 160.81.7.18) on: Tue Aug 8 18:09:23 EDT 2000
  
  thankx vishwa...
  u exactly said what i wanted to..
  the IR i liked is long gone...
  
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 136.182.2.222) on: Tue Aug 8 18:12:23 EDT 2000
  
  Viswa,
  
  When you are refering to other MD's songs,
  do you mean that you are finding those to be
  better than the current IR songs? During
  my recent India trip, I was getting to hear
  lots of other MDs compositions(in bus etc)
  and I was feeling quite uncomfortable hearing
  to some copied music etc in the form of songs.
  In the midst of such a musical trend, IR is
  still continuing to compose melodious songs.
  One example I wanted to give is Kanna Unnai
  Thedukiraen. I was really amazed by the excellent
  songs composed in that album by IR and wished
  that he gets to compose more such albums.
  
  And with the current musical taste, IR has
  to adapt himself without compromising on
  the melody aspect. That is what I think, he is
  trying to do and many people(like me) seem
  to appreciate that in this forum.
  
  And are we getting to see the variety in
  tamil films nowadays which used to be there
  till early 90s atleast? The answer is no.
  Movies like Bharathy are an exception but will
  they be commercial successes?
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: Bug (@ 216.71.84.142) on: Tue Aug 8 18:18:52 EDT 2000
  
  Viswa,
  Super!!!
  
  IR'kku against engay moochu vitta avalavu thaaan.I haven't seen any ARR fan coming up to this sort of fight.(maybe they have seen the light ;-)
  
  Anyway kudos, you reflected whatever i had in my mind. thanks.
  
  varieties in tamil cinema's till 90's???
  ayyoo!!! it is the same till now. nothing has changed in the storyline.Those times saw sindhubhairavi, Sankarabarnam etc......now also we are seeing mogamul,Bharathy etc...
  there is no change except for the technology.
  
  
  Bug
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ 136.182.2.221) on: Tue Aug 8 19:01:45 EDT 2000
  
  Athi !
  I was expecting you here... ;-)
  
  When you are refering to other MD's songs,
  do you mean that you are finding those to be
  better than the current IR songs?
  
  I don't mean that they are better or worse ! All I asked was, whether (people like) you rate IR's songs the way you do, after listening to other MDs songs or not.
  
  I was getting to hear
  lots of other MDs compositions
  and I was feeling quite uncomfortable hearing
  to some copied music etc in the form of songs.
  In the midst of such a musical trend, IR is
  still continuing to compose melodious songs.
  
  
  
  Glad to hear you heard other MDs' songs (albeit with lot of discomfort), but tell me, do you rate IR's songs as excellent because (you believe) they are not copied while others' songs are ?
  
  Well, if you rate IR's recent songs to be excellent, because you actually like them so much, then good for you. But if it is because of other indirect reasons, then it's a different story.
  
  rajaG,
  You bet ! :-) Tonsure and censure are there for the asking... not my first time, though ! :-))
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ 136.182.2.221) on: Tue Aug 8 19:12:28 EDT 2000
  
  IR'kku against engay moochu vitta avalavu thaaan
  Bug ,
  Idhu theriyaamalaa ? Adhaan moonu varushamaa paakarene ! :-)
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Tue Aug 8 19:13:25 EDT 2000
  
  viswa,
  
  are you the same viswa of yonderdays (and who was a part of the initial tfmp team??)? if so, your comment is not new :-) (i am going crazy over "chAmbal niRam oru kutti karunj chAndhu niRam oru kutti" :-)), the kuzhaivu and beauty in those lines... wow!)
  
  
• From: VidhyasagarFan :) (@ 64.244.43.17) on: Tue Aug 8 19:17:58 EDT 2000
  
  Viswa just adding one more category to your list:
  
  To all those DFers who say "excellent songs", "vintage IR" and all that stuff about his recent songs,
  I wonder whether you :
  
  post your reviews before listening to them
  
  
  
• From: sri (@ 154.5.121.118) on: Tue Aug 8 19:22:25 EDT 2000
  
  Hi, guys many of MDs can make good songs,it is not weired thing,but IR songs are coming with the
  different taste.you people can't undestand, because you guys are slave to abroad things.
  
  Don't be fool guys.
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ 136.182.2.221) on: Tue Aug 8 19:26:16 EDT 2000
  
  aruL,
  :-)))
  Yes, I am (still) the same Viswa of yonderdays !
  
  
  
• From: Vanan (@ 203.106.86.110) on: Tue Aug 8 20:07:10 EDT 2000
  
  Hi everybody, see the latest kumudham. Maniratnam new movie, will be introduced new music director Thina (TV seriels fame).
  
  
• From: Manju (@ 207.165.237.206) on: Tue Aug 8 22:26:51 EDT 2000
  
  Sorry for the digression. He (Mani) has to do this since Alaipayuthe music was pathetic.
  
  I dont know what prevents hom from rejoining with IR. (all his previous hits had IR's genius which clearly and explicitly overshadowed Mani's class (if at all he had/has any)).
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ 12.78.210.81) on: Tue Aug 8 23:02:02 EDT 2000
  
  I don't want to get into a fist fight here. But I just read posters like rajaG and others giving Athi a big lecture on his posting in another thread as to his views on ARR etc.
  
  But I see posters like Viswa cast aspersions on people who like IR albums here as having nostalgia or not listening to other MD's albums etc. Just because in his opinion the current albums of IR does not stand up to his previous ones. I for one totally disagree that it is just a perception than reality. However, I am disappointed that people who gave Athi a lecture in another thread are pouring compliments over Viswa's posting. It is unfortunate but I think posting anything anti-IR is what the in-thing is in this forum.
  
  But the problem with this forum is that. Instead of people just posting their opinion of albums try to convince of others of their opinions or cast aspersions as to why certain people like certain music (nostalgia etc.). Musical taste like everything else is individual in nature. That is why, like anything else there are segments of people with different tastes.
  
  I for one have never been impressed by ARR's music. I would listen to some of the albums that people go 'ga ga' over and think "is this what all the fuss about". But I do not go about challenging other's opinions and tastes because it is ridiculous. For whatever reason, that segment of people love that type of music.
  
  I think this forum would be a great place if people state their opinion about the music (positive or negative) but understand what may sound genuinely great to one may sound totally the opposite to another.
  
  If you do not like bharathy or Ilayavan or recent IR's albums do not buy it or listen to it. Like I do, I do not buy ARR's albums. But it is an indvidual taste. To consider one's taste superior or inferior, modern or old time, sophisticated or uneducated just because one finds someone's music good that you disagree is naive.
  
  Arularacan, I had the same feelings after "vellai nirathu oru poonai" lines..unbelievable.
  
  

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