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IR's new albums!

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

Check the IR reviews page

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• From: sabesan (@ 63.203.255.254) on: Tue Aug 8 23:30:45 EDT 2000
  
  poochu.... Krishna, now u will be branded as a *IR fanatic* or whatever.....
  
  when someone can say *they don't like IR new songs*, whey can't someother someone say *they like IR songs, and they are excellant*....
  
  onnum puriallapaaaa.....
  
  
• From: S (@ 192.135.244.69) on: Wed Aug 9 00:25:13 EDT 2000
  
  Viswa,
  pOttu thAkkittappA...namma ellAm pre 85 raja vai kEttu sandhOsha pattukka vENdiyadhu dhAn...
  
  Digression: unakku inga post paNna time kidaikkaradhu, oru mail paNNa mudiyAdhA ????
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.11.114) on: Wed Aug 9 01:56:11 EDT 2000
  
  My views:
  IR is doing well even now, only thing, he has changed the singers. (especially UK,HH, Sujatha, AS instead of SPB*SJ,KJY*KSC etc)
  I really like listening to songs of late 90s like Senthooram, Nilave mugam kattu, Kadhal rojave, kannukkul nilavu, Poonthottam, Hey Ram,Sethu etc.
  At the same time, I am regularly listening to around 500 songs of IR (from 80s to 90s). I could find his music to be quite good like in 80s. As Krishna said, everybody has got different taste. If somebody says that his music is bad, leave it. If it is good, accept it.
  Initially, when Eden wrote in this (& other forum) that Niram pirithu paarthen by Sujatha is quite good, I could n't digest that. Yesterday, I could not control myself without hearing it.( I heard it for atleast 10 times - still like to hear the same song.) Thanks a lot, eden.
  In the same manner, those who do n't like IR's music of late 90s may like it after sometime.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.243) on: Wed Aug 9 07:53:04 EDT 2000
  
  You're welcome, yvs:-)
  
  
• From: PS - peesoo (@ 207.24.185.12) on: Wed Aug 9 09:21:38 EDT 2000
  
  veerappan level'aa "viswa strikes back"! welcome back. As S proposed, pre-85'la vaazhndhu peru moochchu uttittu irukka vENdiyathu thaan.. So, as of now, I stand as: hardcore fan of pre-85 IR + post kadhalar thinam-ARR fan + vidyaasgaar's mallu composition' fan + pre-75 MSV fan :) :) :)
  
  btw, there was a reply frm one of the greatest IR fans to Viswa's posting. Im just cut-n-pasting it here on his request:
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  Dear Viswa
  
  Read your posting under the IR's New Albums thread - yes, to an extent I
  do agree with you
  
  By IR's standards, the music he gives these days sound poor in quality -
  my doubt is, if IR does go back to the 80s style orchestration etc., will
  they be received ?
  
  From IR's point of view, I doubt whether he even knows that there are fans
  like us categorized as hard-core IR fans, who listen to the sublime IR of
  the 80s preferably - last year when I had met IR alongwith Prasad Gopal, I
  had mentioned about brilliant songs like "metti oli" etc - IR was
  pleasantly taken aback and asked me "neenga andha pazahaiyya paattellam
  kekkareengalaa yenna? " - it was then my turn to be taken aback -
  
  What I conclude is this - whatever IR is giving these days lacks whatever
  minimal efforts he used to put in the 80s, given the fact that, for IR,
  composing music comes as easy as breathing.
  
  The reason is because, IR himself is not aware that there are people like
  us around dying to listen to the 80s style orchestral scores - so, yedho
  avarukku siramamey illaama thonugira music podaraar, and because his music
  ends up as melodious, whether he wants it to be that way or not, it still
  sounds melodious - but what definitely is lacking is the earlier effort -
  and that is because, IR is most likely/ probably under the illusion that
  people/youngsters would not want to listen to 80s style compositions - and
  perhaps that is the reason he is either giving very casually composed
  music (Rajasthan, Kummi paattu etc) or trying different synth. stuff (as
  in TIME - with the exception of "niram pirithhu paarthaen", which is an
  awesome number) - IR , I think has become a "self-doubting-Thomas", thanks
  to the definite radical change in the tastes of the audiences, who get
  songs from trash Hindi albums like "Pyar tho hona hi thaa " recorded on CD
  and that too this is happening in singaara Chennai - 10 years back such
  things never happened in Chennai
  
  
  IR is always known for his accurate grasp of the tastes of the audiences -
  but right now, from what I have observed, things move so fast that people
  do not have time to listen to niceties in music - the result is that a
  brilliant composition like "aruna girina deepam" from GURU is most likely
  to be compared with an ARR number like "minnaley" from MAY MADHAM - without
  the concerned people even making a sincere attempt to compare the
  niceties/subtleties and originality of the two compositions
  
  
  So what does one expect IR to do ? even his natural ability to perceive
  the tastes and pulse of the audiences shows that the audiences are not
  receptive to albums like GURU - hence the relatively substandard, but
  still melodious "Kanna Unai Thedugiraen" etc.
  
  I hope I have succeeded in giving a clear picture of the whole situation
  in the eyes of the Maestro himself, as I think I perceive it !
  
  Do me a favor please - since I don't want to type the above matter all
  over again , can you please CUT and PASTE ( a Deva act!) in the appropriate
  thread, since this would be another angle to the 'melody-depreciating-trend-
  in-IR-music-of-the-90s' issue
  
  
  regards
  
  Madhan
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• From: Arasu Dakshin (@ 159.19.109.52) on: Wed Aug 9 10:08:38 EDT 2000
  
  Krishna,
  
  Your posting on "give an opinion but do not expect people to buy it" was apt and the best message ever posted in this forum. I am glad we still have level-headed and fine thinking individuals.
  
  Arasu Dakshin
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.149.4) on: Wed Aug 9 10:53:19 EDT 2000
  
  Well..thats Madhan in his usual impressive expressive self. Cant agree more with him !!
  Here are my thoughts on the composing skills of the genius.
  HE understands the essence of music and its relationship with emotion. He can come up with an original melody as naturally as a smile on a baby's face. He will probably set it to some beat. Well you can pick the drum or even some non-precussion instrument to keep the rhythm. Next comes the orchestration . He can explore, elaborate the main melody in the interludes or set interesting counter points. All these he can do for just vocals and tabla or for a full-fledged 5-part 90 piece orchestra. And voila, you've got a song.
  
  So I think even now, the main ingredient in his music is there. It is just being cooked differently.
  (BTW, I am listening to the finely orchestrated Vande Mataram ..what a way to start the day :))
  
  
• From: amalraj (@ 203.199.220.51) on: Wed Aug 9 11:00:15 EDT 2000
  
  many enquires about the incapability of IR to retain his 80's style , but the fact is few understand that only talent can be devoleped or wasted what IR has is not just musical talent but "MUSICAL COMPLETION" IN HIMSELF which cannot be reduced and there is no room for devolopment
  other wise late 90's films is deprived of situational variation that may be the reason for his less showing otherwise i thouht he has given some ever lasting songs like "thendral vandhu theendum pozhluthu"
  
  "ennai thalaata varuvala"
  
  i rate "vaarthai thavarivitai" as the best ever situational song by IR (in sethu) the song did something deep inside me another thing is in 80's IR's songs are the only one going around but NOW AMIDST SO MANY COPIED INSPIRED POLISHED songs you've got to be somewhat sensitive or feeling dominated person to realise the substance in his songs. i hope that explains a bit.
  
  
• From: Bug (@ 216.71.84.142) on: Wed Aug 9 11:03:13 EDT 2000
  
  Madhan,
  You have made a good point. IR was known for his grasp of tastes in audiences in the early 80's. NOT NOW!!!
  People are outside India are minority. Producers don't make movies based solely for us. Either IR has to change his way of giving his music and go with the flow or stop giving the music. Whatever he gives is not even close enough to the early 80's (ofcourse there are occasional exceptions here and there).
  Now whose fault it is? So do we expect the millions of people to accept what IR gives or this individual to cater according to the tastes of the public?
  I don't think majority of the people in India are still behind the 80's IR. I am little bit skeptical on the issue that if IR gives 80's range songs now--it will be a big hit. It is HIGHLY questionable.
  Chinna Chinna aasai of Roja, Chikkubukku Rayile was more far fetched than the much hyped HR songs.I think it is high time IR realises about this and does something.
  
  Bug
  
  
• From: satish (@ 139.85.161.184) on: Wed Aug 9 11:09:19 EDT 2000
  
  Bug
  idhellam nammakulle pesi enna use iruku
  some body must make IR know this,apdi yaravadhu puriya vecha kuda
  IR philosophicala edavadhu explanation kuduparu
  IR sagabdham mudinji pochu pa
  to be more rude IR is a kali perungaya dappa ippo
  
  
• From: Ramesh and Diwakar (@ 206.175.177.136) on: Wed Aug 9 12:59:36 EDT 2000
  
  Satish :
  
  IR sagabdham mudinji pocha? If so, why is everyone, even those who claim that IR is not an all-time TFM great, still use him as a yardstick? Compare MSV with IR, ARR with IR, any TDH with IR and 80s IR with current IR, and still maintain that his sagabdham is over. Even now, when most people are insisting that the IR saga has ended, the standards are set by IR. How many right-thinking people talk about ARR's music in absolute terms? Two lines of praise and then follows - IR is not able to do this! If that is a given, what does one gain by reiterating that IR cannot deliver the goods anymore? Or is it because, at the back of the mind, there is a thought that IR continues to compose songs of high quality? Is there not a contradiction here, in terms of putting him down everytime but then again, using his music as the standard by which other MDs are rated?
  
  The differentiator for IR is that his music is good by itself - not necessarily in comparison with his contemporaries or his predecessors. One can listen to IR's compositions and enjoy them without, sub-consciously at least, wondering if MSV or ARR or (God forbid!) Deva can do any better.
  
  The IR phenomenon will lose its lustre the day people stop talking about IR's music in the same breath as anyone else's. Till then the flag is still flying high.
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10) on: Wed Aug 9 13:20:08 EDT 2000
  
  un nilamai konjam iRangi vandhAl un nizhalum kUda midhukkum .
  
  kaNNadhAsan was great!
  
  btw, i see a logical inconsistency in "good music lovers"'s arguments. am i who listen to the latest of the releases nostalgic or those who listen to only the "great songs" of the 80's? maybe i should start with boole's the laws of thought (or some such similar title) to get a good grasp of logic 101 :-)))
  
  

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